Blue Jays agree to terms with Okha

donkey66 · 01-21-2007, 03:54 PM

"According to the Boston Globe, Tomo Ohka is close to deciding on offers from the Blue Jays, Nationals and Pirates.

It doesn't sound like he's going to get the three-year deal he'd like. He can either join a contender in Toronto or help his chances of getting a bigger deal after 2008 by staying in the NL."

I like this move if the Jays can pull it off. I may like signing Thomson and Ohka more than getting Lilly and Meche, especially when you take money into account. It will be interesting to see which pair of pitchers has a better 2007.

Ultimate · 01-21-2007, 07:50 PM

I didn't even realize the Jays were talking to him. I guess I have been out of the loop a little bit lately though. What kind of money are they talking about? Similar to the THompson deal?

I like the concept in this market of going after low risk guys who could turn out to be solid mid rotation starters.

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gojays2007 · 01-21-2007, 09:20 PM

now selig is really gonna be pissed if we pull off thompson, ohka, fasano, clayton to go with frank thomas this offseason, even if we lost lilly and speier.

bedir than average · 01-21-2007, 09:31 PM

Why would Selig be upset with a team in the 4th largest city in the league having a better team?

gojays2007 · 01-22-2007, 07:35 AM

ESPN.com - MLB - Mitchell asks for increased cooperation from owners

During the meeting, Selig also spoke about the free-agent market and singled out the Giants and Chicago Cubs, among others, for their spending, one official at the meeting said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the remarks during the session were not intended to be made public. Selig also mentioned the Toronto Blue Jays, the official said.

WilsonC · 01-22-2007, 09:56 AM

It would be more than a little hypoocritical of Selig to point a finger at the Jays for their spending, given the payrolls of certain other teams in the division.

RickJay · 01-22-2007, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gojays2007

now selig is really gonna be pissed if we pull off thompson, ohka, fasano, clayton to go with frank thomas this offseason, even if we lost lilly and speier.

Do you really think anyone cares that the Blue Jays signed Royce Clayton and Sal Fasano? Ooooh, the Jays are signing castoffs! Watch out!

Come on. Thomas is the only external signing anyone outside of Toronto has noticed, and that was no blockbuster. Tomo Ohka's a 31-year-old pitcher with a career record of 48-58. He won four games last year. If he signs with Toronto it's a footnote.

Bjindaho · 01-22-2007, 02:41 PM

Selig's comments might border on collusion, telling teams what they should be spending on free agents, instead of allowing "his" marketplace setting that he negotiated (CBA) take effect.

gojays2007 · 01-22-2007, 04:07 PM

Do you really think anyone cares that the Blue Jays signed Royce Clayton and Sal Fasano? Ooooh, the Jays are signing castoffs! Watch out!

No, but I really thought I layed the sarcasm on thick enough for everyone to realize it.

Kris · 01-22-2007, 04:58 PM

The mystery 4th team sounds a little fake to me. Agents seem to do this all the time. Boras with the Jays and Gagne is one example.

One report today had the Pirates dropping out of the biding.

As for money it is a two year offer, my guess 10 to 14 million.

I am not sure how good he will be. His control is good but his K rate is bad. He is a 4th starter with good NL ERAs. I think at this point just give the job to McGowan, Janssen or Marcum.

gojays2007 · 01-22-2007, 10:47 PM

I think it will be closer to 10 than 14.

ofhdhdy · 01-22-2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gojays2007

Do you really think anyone cares that the Blue Jays signed Royce Clayton and Sal Fasano? Ooooh, the Jays are signing castoffs! Watch out!

No, but I really thought I layed the sarcasm on thick enough for everyone to realize it.

Yeah its kind of hard to notice sarcasm on message boards, I couldn't tell that was sarcasm at all....

Bjindaho · 01-23-2007, 05:55 AM

If the Yankees keep paring payroll, their average salary might drop below half the entire Marlins payroll

Ultimate · 01-23-2007, 02:25 PM

Per Rotoworld.com

The Blue Jays and Tomo Ohka have reportedly come to terms on a one-year deal.

Ohka declined two-year proposals from the Pirates and Nationals in the hopes that there'd be a bigger market for his services next year. We're not thrilled with his chances of posting a sub-5.00 ERA in the AL, but he still should be a better choice for the Toronto rotation than Shaun Marcum, Casey Janssen or Josh Towers. His addition means that John Thomson will now have more of a battle on his hands as he attempts to secure the fifth spot.

Cruzfan · 01-23-2007, 03:43 PM

While Ken Rosenthal had originally indicated the deal was for between 750K and 1 million, Jeff Blair is now reporting its a 1 year, 1.5 million dollar deal with incentives that could push it to 3 million.

01-21-2007, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
donkey66 New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1	Blue Jays agree to terms with Okha "According to the Boston Globe, Tomo Ohka is close to deciding on offers from the Blue Jays, Nationals and Pirates. It doesn't sound like he's going to get the three-year deal he'd like. He can either join a contender in Toronto or help his chances of getting a bigger deal after 2008 by staying in the NL." I like this move if the Jays can pull it off. I may like signing Thomson and Ohka more than getting Lilly and Meche, especially when you take money into account. It will be interesting to see which pair of pitchers has a better 2007.

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01-21-2007, 07:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ultimate Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 116	I didn't even realize the Jays were talking to him. I guess I have been out of the loop a little bit lately though. What kind of money are they talking about? Similar to the THompson deal? I like the concept in this market of going after low risk guys who could turn out to be solid mid rotation starters. Welcome to Fanhome.

01-21-2007, 09:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	now selig is really gonna be pissed if we pull off thompson, ohka, fasano, clayton to go with frank thomas this offseason, even if we lost lilly and speier.

01-22-2007, 07:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	ESPN.com - MLB - Mitchell asks for increased cooperation from owners During the meeting, Selig also spoke about the free-agent market and singled out the Giants and Chicago Cubs, among others, for their spending, one official at the meeting said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the remarks during the session were not intended to be made public. Selig also mentioned the Toronto Blue Jays, the official said.

01-22-2007, 09:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
WilsonC Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 117	It would be more than a little hypoocritical of Selig to point a finger at the Jays for their spending, given the payrolls of certain other teams in the division.

01-22-2007, 04:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	Do you really think anyone cares that the Blue Jays signed Royce Clayton and Sal Fasano? Ooooh, the Jays are signing castoffs! Watch out! No, but I really thought I layed the sarcasm on thick enough for everyone to realize it.

01-22-2007, 04:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kris New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5	The mystery 4th team sounds a little fake to me. Agents seem to do this all the time. Boras with the Jays and Gagne is one example. One report today had the Pirates dropping out of the biding. As for money it is a two year offer, my guess 10 to 14 million. I am not sure how good he will be. His control is good but his K rate is bad. He is a 4th starter with good NL ERAs. I think at this point just give the job to McGowan, Janssen or Marcum.

01-22-2007, 10:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	I think it will be closer to 10 than 14.

01-23-2007, 02:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ultimate Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 116	Per Rotoworld.com The Blue Jays and Tomo Ohka have reportedly come to terms on a one-year deal. Ohka declined two-year proposals from the Pirates and Nationals in the hopes that there'd be a bigger market for his services next year. We're not thrilled with his chances of posting a sub-5.00 ERA in the AL, but he still should be a better choice for the Toronto rotation than Shaun Marcum, Casey Janssen or Josh Towers. His addition means that John Thomson will now have more of a battle on his hands as he attempts to secure the fifth spot.

01-23-2007, 03:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cruzfan New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3	While Ken Rosenthal had originally indicated the deal was for between 750K and 1 million, Jeff Blair is now reporting its a 1 year, 1.5 million dollar deal with incentives that could push it to 3 million.