Go back in time

gojays2007 · 12-15-2006, 05:59 PM

Go back to 2 weeks ago. Now you have the knowledge that Wells is asking for 18m a year for 7 years and will not budge. What packages would you settle for for Wells?

Would you take Santana, Ervin, striaght up?
How about Jared Weaver?
Would you take Penny and a prospect other than Kemp/Ethier(sp)

Would you settle for a lesser package knowing he was going to command 7/126?

TrueBlueJay · 12-15-2006, 07:03 PM

I'm fine with it. I'd sign him. Uncle Ted opened his wallet, this is supposed to be above and beyond the money we had to spend.

DrEasy · 12-17-2006, 04:24 AM

7/126 is outrageous, but the way it is structured it will only really start stinking in the last 3-4 years of the contract. I don't know what our budget will be like by then, but it better be able to absorb it!

Personally, I would have taken any of the trades you listed, moved Rios to CF and gotten a free agent OF like Nixon. The resulting team could have still been better this year and would have given some playroll flexibility for the future.

All of this is assuming that the market cannot possibly get any crazier than this next year and beyond, but stranger things have happened in baseball...

Jaysmaniac · 12-17-2006, 09:36 AM

The real challenge of the contract is how much Teddy forks over. If say we go out and snag a Zito, then the deal isn't that bad. If we now can not sign anyone for the next 3 years, obviously its horrible. I reserve the right to hold off a decision.

TheShaker99 · 12-17-2006, 02:58 PM

I like the signing!!! We'll get a #3

TrueBlueJay · 12-17-2006, 04:52 PM

i love that emoticon. 1st time i've seen it used, and I love it.

TheShaker99 · 12-17-2006, 10:11 PM

TrueBlueJay · 12-18-2006, 10:10 AM

gojays2007 · 12-18-2006, 05:47 PM

someone implode this site.

BigBadBlueBird · 12-20-2006, 07:04 PM

Signing Wells is great, and the absolute dollars are, frankly, meaningless. This year's offseason has proven that.

It's the relative dollars that are a concern. How much do we have left, and what can it get in this market?

A lot of the trade options are short term deals. Get an arm now type deals, but we are more than an arm away from being a top contender. I think I would just as soon have Wells long term, so am satisfied with the deal.

TheShaker99 · 12-20-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gojays2007

someone implode this site.

Eat a can of Beans and Newfie steak and you just might implode the site!!

TheShaker99 · 12-20-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBadBlueBird

Signing Wells is great, and the absolute dollars are, frankly, meaningless. This year's offseason has proven that.

It's the relative dollars that are a concern. How much do we have left, and what can it get in this market?

A lot of the trade options are short term deals. Get an arm now type deals, but we are more than an arm away from being a top contender. I think I would just as soon have Wells long term, so am satisfied with the deal.

Huh, the Boys of summer still have that 20 Million? Wells extension has no barring on this season?

gojays2007 · 12-20-2006, 11:08 PM

tick....tick....tick...

gojays2007 · 12-21-2006, 09:21 AM

just a match and a lil bit of gasoline...

gojays2007 · 12-22-2006, 10:41 PM

Boom!

12-15-2006, 05:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	Go back in time Go back to 2 weeks ago. Now you have the knowledge that Wells is asking for 18m a year for 7 years and will not budge. What packages would you settle for for Wells? Would you take Santana, Ervin, striaght up? How about Jared Weaver? Would you take Penny and a prospect other than Kemp/Ethier(sp) Would you settle for a lesser package knowing he was going to command 7/126?

12-15-2006, 07:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
TrueBlueJay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 174	I'm fine with it. I'd sign him. Uncle Ted opened his wallet, this is supposed to be above and beyond the money we had to spend.

12-17-2006, 04:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
DrEasy New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3	7/126 is outrageous, but the way it is structured it will only really start stinking in the last 3-4 years of the contract. I don't know what our budget will be like by then, but it better be able to absorb it! Personally, I would have taken any of the trades you listed, moved Rios to CF and gotten a free agent OF like Nixon. The resulting team could have still been better this year and would have given some playroll flexibility for the future. All of this is assuming that the market cannot possibly get any crazier than this next year and beyond, but stranger things have happened in baseball...

12-17-2006, 09:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jaysmaniac Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 44	The real challenge of the contract is how much Teddy forks over. If say we go out and snag a Zito, then the deal isn't that bad. If we now can not sign anyone for the next 3 years, obviously its horrible. I reserve the right to hold off a decision.

12-17-2006, 02:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheShaker99 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 80	I like the signing!!! We'll get a #3

12-17-2006, 04:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
TrueBlueJay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 174	i love that emoticon. 1st time i've seen it used, and I love it.

12-17-2006, 10:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
TheShaker99 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 80

12-18-2006, 10:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
TrueBlueJay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 174

12-18-2006, 05:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	someone implode this site.

12-20-2006, 07:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigBadBlueBird AKA: Keith, SteibFan, E5 and Snakeeye Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 38	Signing Wells is great, and the absolute dollars are, frankly, meaningless. This year's offseason has proven that. It's the relative dollars that are a concern. How much do we have left, and what can it get in this market? A lot of the trade options are short term deals. Get an arm now type deals, but we are more than an arm away from being a top contender. I think I would just as soon have Wells long term, so am satisfied with the deal.

12-20-2006, 11:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	tick....tick....tick...

12-21-2006, 09:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	just a match and a lil bit of gasoline...

12-22-2006, 10:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
gojays2007 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 177	Boom!