Game Thread #59 - PIT@STL - 6/02/08

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 10:00 AM

Probables: Adam Wainwright vs Tom Gorzelanny @ 7PM.

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Yahoo schedule
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Cardinals don't have the talent to sustain hot start
There are few on it you would want for your team other than Albert Pujols.
Heck, there might be no one on it you could name other than Albert Pujols.

Additions and corrections are appreciated.

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 10:55 AM

If Braden Looper leaves the Cardinals, he may have an experience like Jeff Weaver.
Jeff Weaver isn't even winning in AAA.

Lineups and boxscore should be here by game time.
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bubbycardsfan1 · June 2nd, 2008, 01:31 PM

kinda what i was thinking if hes gonna start he better hope the cards want him back if not he maybe headed back to the pen.I know he was good in relief before he got here but starting in a hostile home enviroment may not be loopers cup of tea.Tony and dave seem to have there "voodoo curse" working on weaver and i dont think Braden whats to feel the wrath of the little "voodoo" dolls Tony has hidin in his desk

stlkat · June 2nd, 2008, 03:26 PM

From Bernie's Pressbox:

Post subject: Tonight: Miles, Mather at top of the order
Posted: 02 Jun 2008 15:43 pm
The lineups, from Commish Hummel at the ballpark:

CARDINALS:

Miles 2b
Mather rf
Pujols 1b
Glaus 3b
Ludwick cf
Molina c
Barton lf
Wainwright p
Izturis ss

PIRATES:

McLouth cf
Wilson ss
Sanchez 2b
Bay lf
Nady rf
LaRoche 1b
Bautista 3b
Chavez c
Gorzelanny p
_________________
mike smith, post-dispatch online sports editor

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 06:13 PM

Yahoo play by play
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First inning

Top 1st: Pittsburgh
- N. McLouth grounded out to second
- J. Wilson flied out to center
- F. Sanchez grounded out to second

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 0

Bottom 1st: St. Louis
- A. Miles flied out to deep center
- J. Mather singled to left center
- A. Pujols doubled to deep left center, J. Mather scored
- T. Glaus struck out swinging
- R. Ludwick singled to center, A. Pujols scored
- R. Ludwick stole second
- Y. Molina grounded out to second

2 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 06:58 PM

Top 2nd: Pittsburgh
- J. Bay flied out to right
- X. Nady flied out to left
- A. LaRoche grounded out to first

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2

Bottom 2nd: St. Louis
- B. Barton flied out to right
- A. Wainwright walked
- C. Izturis grounded into double play pitcher to shortstop to first, A. Wainwright out at second

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2

Top 3rd: Pittsburgh
- J. Bautista grounded out to shortstop
- R. Chavez struck out swinging
- T. Gorzelanny struck out swinging

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2

Bottom 3rd: St. Louis
- A. Miles doubled to right center
- J. Mather singled to left, A. Miles to third
- A. Pujols singled to third, A. Miles scored, J. Mather to second
- T. Glaus flied out to deep left center, J. Mather to third
- R. Ludwick hit sacrifice fly to deep left center, J. Mather scored
- Y. Molina walked
- B. Barton grounded into fielder's choice, Y. Molina out at second

2 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 07:16 PM

Top 4th: Pittsburgh
- N. McLouth grounded out to second
- J. Wilson singled to center
- F. Sanchez grounded into double play shortstop to second to first, J. Wilson out at second

0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

Bottom 4th: St. Louis
- A. Wainwright singled to right
- C. Izturis flied out to left
- A. Miles grounded into double play third to second to first, A. Wainwright out at second

0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

Top 5th: Pittsburgh
- J. Bay flied out to right
- X. Nady struck out swinging
- A. LaRoche flied out to left

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

Bottom 5th: St. Louis
- J. Mather flied out to left
- A. Pujols grounded out to third
- T. Glaus flied out to right

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

A good game going. I'm watching it on FSNMW. Am I here all alone?

ArRedbird · June 2nd, 2008, 07:23 PM

i'm here, Coop.
Watching it also.

Hoping Wainwright gets out of the 6th -- allowed 2, 2-out hits.

0-2 on former Card prospect Jack Wilson.
1-2, curve outside
2-2, fb high outside
Strike 3 yeah!

Kodiak · June 2nd, 2008, 07:39 PM

I'm here as well Coop and watching on MLB (we like to play the same commercials every half inning).tv.

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 07:40 PM

Sixth inning

Top 6th: Pittsburgh
- J. Bautista flied out to right
- R. Chavez grounded out to second
- T. Gorzelanny singled to left
- N. McLouth singled to center, T. Gorzelanny to second
- J. Wilson struck out swinging

0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

Bottom 6th: St. Louis
- R. Ludwick grounded out to shortstop
- Y. Molina walked
- B. Barton struck out swinging
- A. Wainwright grounded out to second

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

ArRedbird · June 2nd, 2008, 07:44 PM

Wainwright's suddenly lost control here in the 7th.
Bases loaded, 2 out.
Visit to the mound.
My guess is, this is his last hitter -- Michaels.

PH grand slam, ties the game.

ugh

Wainwright still in, gets the 3rd out on a 4-3.

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 07:48 PM

What a revoltin' development that was.
Six innings of work down the tubes on one swing.

Top 7th: Pittsburgh
- R. Ludwick in left field
- S. Schumaker in center field
- F. Sanchez grounded out to third
*- J. Bay ground rule double to deep left center
*- X. Nady walked
- A. LaRoche flied out to left
- J. Bay to third, X. Nady to second on passed ball
*- J. Bautista walked
- J. Michaels hit for R. Chavez

- J. Michaels homered to deep left,

Sometimes called a grand salami.
Not so grand for us.

X. Nady, J. Bay and J. Bautista scored
- C. Gomez hit for T. Gorzelanny
- C. Gomez grounded out to second

4 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 4, St. Louis 4

Kodiak · June 2nd, 2008, 07:49 PM

I miss the good old days when the Pirates were a fun team to play against (i.e. utterly dominate).

Wainwright just suddenly lost control there. Personally, I would have brought in a new pitcher once he loaded the bases (but then again there is that 20/20 hindsight thing).

ArRedbird · June 2nd, 2008, 07:57 PM

I'm a little surprised Wainwright is starting the 8th.
I guess TLR wants him to have a chance to win.
... and still a relatively low pitch count.

Coop · June 2nd, 2008, 08:07 PM

If our Ace gets a loss tonight, he owns it.

Bottom 7th: St. Louis
- R. Paulino catching
- F. Osoria relieved T. Gorzelanny
- C. Izturis flied out to deep center
- A. Miles grounded out to first
- J. Mather struck out looking

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 4, St. Louis 4

Top 8th: Pittsburgh
- N. McLouth singled to left
- J. Wilson sacrificed to first, N. McLouth to second
- F. Sanchez flied out to right
*>- J. Bay singled to right, N. McLouth scored

- X. Nady flied out to deep right

1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 5, St. Louis 4

This is not looking good, at all.

Bottom 8th: St. Louis
- A. Pujols grounded out to third
- T. Glaus grounded out to pitcher
- R. Ludwick singled to deep center
- Y. Molina singled to center, R. Ludwick to third
- D. Marte relieved F. Osoria
- S. Schumaker grounded out to shortstop

0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors
Pittsburgh 5, St. Louis 4

June 2nd, 2008, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	Game Thread #59 - PIT@STL - 6/02/08 Probables: Adam Wainwright vs Tom Gorzelanny @ 7PM. Cards ride defense The Official Site of The St. Louis Cardinals: News: St. Louis Cardinals News Golden Gloves STLtoday - Cards' gloves are golden MSN schedule FOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Schedules Yahoo schedule MLB - Scores & Schedule Monday June 2, 2008 - Yahoo! Sports Standings. The Official Site of Major League Baseball: Standings: Regular Season Standings Won 34 Lost 24 mattcrossman SportingNews.com - Your expert source for MLB Baseball stats, scores, standings, blogs and fantasy news from MLB Baseball columnists Cardinals don't have the talent to sustain hot start There are few on it you would want for your team other than Albert Pujols. Heck, there might be no one on it you could name other than Albert Pujols. Additions and corrections are appreciated.

June 2nd, 2008, 03:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
stlkat Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. Louis Posts: 168	Lineups From Bernie's Pressbox: Post subject: Tonight: Miles, Mather at top of the order Posted: 02 Jun 2008 15:43 pm The lineups, from Commish Hummel at the ballpark: CARDINALS: Miles 2b Mather rf Pujols 1b Glaus 3b Ludwick cf Molina c Barton lf Wainwright p Izturis ss PIRATES: McLouth cf Wilson ss Sanchez 2b Bay lf Nady rf LaRoche 1b Bautista 3b Chavez c Gorzelanny p _________________ mike smith, post-dispatch online sports editor

June 2nd, 2008, 07:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	What a revoltin' development that was. Six innings of work down the tubes on one swing. Top 7th: Pittsburgh - R. Ludwick in left field - S. Schumaker in center field - F. Sanchez grounded out to third - J. Bay ground rule double to deep left center - X. Nady walked - A. LaRoche flied out to left - J. Bay to third, X. Nady to second on passed ball - J. Bautista walked - J. Michaels hit for R. Chavez - J. Michaels homered to deep left, Sometimes called a grand salami. Not so grand for us. X. Nady, J. Bay and J. Bautista scored - C. Gomez hit for T. Gorzelanny - C. Gomez grounded out to second 4 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 4, St. Louis 4 Last edited by Coop; June 2nd, 2008 at 08:46 PM.*

June 2nd, 2008, 08:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	If our Ace gets a loss tonight, he owns it. Bottom 7th: St. Louis - R. Paulino catching - F. Osoria relieved T. Gorzelanny - C. Izturis flied out to deep center - A. Miles grounded out to first - J. Mather struck out looking 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 4, St. Louis 4 Top 8th: Pittsburgh - N. McLouth singled to left - J. Wilson sacrificed to first, N. McLouth to second - F. Sanchez flied out to right >- J. Bay singled to right, N. McLouth scored - X. Nady flied out to deep right 1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 5, St. Louis 4 This is not looking good, at all. Bottom 8th: St. Louis - A. Pujols grounded out to third - T. Glaus grounded out to pitcher - R. Ludwick singled to deep center - Y. Molina singled to center, R. Ludwick to third - D. Marte relieved F. Osoria - S. Schumaker grounded out to shortstop 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 5, St. Louis 4 Last edited by Coop; June 2nd, 2008 at 08:33 PM.*

June 2nd, 2008, 10:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	If Braden Looper leaves the Cardinals, he may have an experience like Jeff Weaver. Jeff Weaver isn't even winning in AAA. Lineups and boxscore should be here by game time. FOX Sports on MSN - MLB - Game Trax

June 2nd, 2008, 01:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
bubbycardsfan1 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: To Close To Cubbyville Posts: 260	kinda what i was thinking if hes gonna start he better hope the cards want him back if not he maybe headed back to the pen.I know he was good in relief before he got here but starting in a hostile home enviroment may not be loopers cup of tea.Tony and dave seem to have there "voodoo curse" working on weaver and i dont think Braden whats to feel the wrath of the little "voodoo" dolls Tony has hidin in his desk

June 2nd, 2008, 06:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	Yahoo play by play MLB - Pittsburgh Pirates/St. Louis Cardinals Box Score Monday June 2, 2008 - Yahoo! Sports First inning Top 1st: Pittsburgh - N. McLouth grounded out to second - J. Wilson flied out to center - F. Sanchez grounded out to second 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 0 Bottom 1st: St. Louis - A. Miles flied out to deep center - J. Mather singled to left center - A. Pujols doubled to deep left center, J. Mather scored - T. Glaus struck out swinging - R. Ludwick singled to center, A. Pujols scored - R. Ludwick stole second - Y. Molina grounded out to second 2 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2

June 2nd, 2008, 06:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	Top 2nd: Pittsburgh - J. Bay flied out to right - X. Nady flied out to left - A. LaRoche grounded out to first 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2 Bottom 2nd: St. Louis - B. Barton flied out to right - A. Wainwright walked - C. Izturis grounded into double play pitcher to shortstop to first, A. Wainwright out at second 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2 Top 3rd: Pittsburgh - J. Bautista grounded out to shortstop - R. Chavez struck out swinging - T. Gorzelanny struck out swinging 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 2 Bottom 3rd: St. Louis - A. Miles doubled to right center - J. Mather singled to left, A. Miles to third - A. Pujols singled to third, A. Miles scored, J. Mather to second - T. Glaus flied out to deep left center, J. Mather to third - R. Ludwick hit sacrifice fly to deep left center, J. Mather scored - Y. Molina walked - B. Barton grounded into fielder's choice, Y. Molina out at second 2 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

June 2nd, 2008, 07:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	Top 4th: Pittsburgh - N. McLouth grounded out to second - J. Wilson singled to center - F. Sanchez grounded into double play shortstop to second to first, J. Wilson out at second 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4 Bottom 4th: St. Louis - A. Wainwright singled to right - C. Izturis flied out to left - A. Miles grounded into double play third to second to first, A. Wainwright out at second 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4 Top 5th: Pittsburgh - J. Bay flied out to right - X. Nady struck out swinging - A. LaRoche flied out to left 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4 Bottom 5th: St. Louis - J. Mather flied out to left - A. Pujols grounded out to third - T. Glaus flied out to right 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4 A good game going. I'm watching it on FSNMW. Am I here all alone?

June 2nd, 2008, 07:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
ArRedbird Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 602	i'm here, Coop. Watching it also. Hoping Wainwright gets out of the 6th -- allowed 2, 2-out hits. 0-2 on former Card prospect Jack Wilson. 1-2, curve outside 2-2, fb high outside Strike 3 yeah!

June 2nd, 2008, 07:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kodiak Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 746	I'm here as well Coop and watching on MLB (we like to play the same commercials every half inning).tv.

June 2nd, 2008, 07:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
Coop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis Posts: 4,184	Sixth inning Top 6th: Pittsburgh - J. Bautista flied out to right - R. Chavez grounded out to second - T. Gorzelanny singled to left - N. McLouth singled to center, T. Gorzelanny to second - J. Wilson struck out swinging 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4 Bottom 6th: St. Louis - R. Ludwick grounded out to shortstop - Y. Molina walked - B. Barton struck out swinging - A. Wainwright grounded out to second 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors Pittsburgh 0, St. Louis 4

June 2nd, 2008, 07:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
ArRedbird Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 602	Wainwright's suddenly lost control here in the 7th. Bases loaded, 2 out. Visit to the mound. My guess is, this is his last hitter -- Michaels. PH grand slam, ties the game. ugh Wainwright still in, gets the 3rd out on a 4-3.

June 2nd, 2008, 07:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
Kodiak Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 746	I miss the good old days when the Pirates were a fun team to play against (i.e. utterly dominate). Wainwright just suddenly lost control there. Personally, I would have brought in a new pitcher once he loaded the bases (but then again there is that 20/20 hindsight thing).

June 2nd, 2008, 07:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
ArRedbird Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 602	I'm a little surprised Wainwright is starting the 8th. I guess TLR wants him to have a chance to win. ... and still a relatively low pitch count.