Wellemeyer signed

ArRedbird · January 28th, 2008, 07:19 PM

Cardinals pitcher Todd Wellemeyer
signed a 1 yr deal, for estimated $1M for '08.

He's expected to compete for the no. 5 starter position.
If he could avg. 6 innings/outing, w/ a 5.00 ERA
he'd be a pretty good no. 5. (I can wish, can't I?)

But that's a lot to ask of the former reliever, imo.

Nighthawk · January 28th, 2008, 07:54 PM

If he averages 6 innings a start with a 5.00 ERA, he'll be a full half run worse than the league average last year and lose in the neighborhood of 15+ games. Much better to put him in the pen where he can't do as much damage. With TLR spot starting and matchups, he could be a fair placeholder. At least he's cheap.

ArRedbird · January 29th, 2008, 06:24 AM

Hey, Nighthawk,
thanks for the data.

Are those averages for no. 5 starters?
(just clarifying) --thanks

Nighthawk · January 29th, 2008, 07:18 PM

They're team averages compared to last year in the league, which is the best I've got. If you have access to ERA's for #5 starters in the NL, I'd be happy to look at it. League average last year was 4.43.

2007 National League (NL) Statistics and Awards - Baseball-Reference.com

Needless to say, I'm fairly comfortable in observing that no team who picked up a pitcher 15% or so worse than average should count themselves as 'improved' in that regard. My opinion only, of course.

tulcard · January 30th, 2008, 03:18 PM

One of the most important stats I remember is that we won 9 of 11 of his starts last year....glad he's back....hope he gets the #5 slot in the rotation....

Nighthawk · January 30th, 2008, 06:06 PM

Then we should hope that he gets 22 starts this year...that should guarantee 18 wins. Do I sense a Cy Young?

tulcard · January 31st, 2008, 06:38 AM

Now....THAT....would be a story!

January 28th, 2008, 07:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
ArRedbird Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 567	Wellemeyer signed Cardinals pitcher Todd Wellemeyer signed a 1 yr deal, for estimated $1M for '08. He's expected to compete for the no. 5 starter position. If he could avg. 6 innings/outing, w/ a 5.00 ERA he'd be a pretty good no. 5. (I can wish, can't I?) But that's a lot to ask of the former reliever, imo.

January 28th, 2008, 07:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nighthawk Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,716	If he averages 6 innings a start with a 5.00 ERA, he'll be a full half run worse than the league average last year and lose in the neighborhood of 15+ games. Much better to put him in the pen where he can't do as much damage. With TLR spot starting and matchups, he could be a fair placeholder. At least he's cheap. __________________ "Whenever the word 'fair' features so prominently in legislation, the odds are that it is economically illiterate" -Rich Lowery What am I doing with your tax money? Sustaining the realm according to caprice.

January 29th, 2008, 07:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nighthawk Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,716	They're team averages compared to last year in the league, which is the best I've got. If you have access to ERA's for #5 starters in the NL, I'd be happy to look at it. League average last year was 4.43. 2007 National League (NL) Statistics and Awards - Baseball-Reference.com Needless to say, I'm fairly comfortable in observing that no team who picked up a pitcher 15% or so worse than average should count themselves as 'improved' in that regard. My opinion only, of course. __________________ "Whenever the word 'fair' features so prominently in legislation, the odds are that it is economically illiterate" -Rich Lowery What am I doing with your tax money? Sustaining the realm according to caprice.

January 30th, 2008, 06:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nighthawk Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,716	Then we should hope that he gets 22 starts this year...that should guarantee 18 wins. Do I sense a Cy Young? __________________ "Whenever the word 'fair' features so prominently in legislation, the odds are that it is economically illiterate" -Rich Lowery What am I doing with your tax money? Sustaining the realm according to caprice.

January 29th, 2008, 06:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
ArRedbird Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 567	Hey, Nighthawk, thanks for the data. Are those averages for no. 5 starters? (just clarifying) --thanks

January 30th, 2008, 03:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
tulcard Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 884	One of the most important stats I remember is that we won 9 of 11 of his starts last year....glad he's back....hope he gets the #5 slot in the rotation....

January 31st, 2008, 06:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
tulcard Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 884	Now....THAT....would be a story!