Mariners still talking extension with JoGuillen

bedir than average · August 4th, 2007, 11:00 AM

The Seattle Times: Sports: Mariners Blog

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... could the arrival of Jones impact contract talks with Guillen? I could imagine so. That said, last I heard, they were going well and the club was dangling something like two years plus an option. Heard Bill Bavasi on the radio saying there were no extension talks and he didn't know where these things get started. Oh I don't know, I suppose we all just pull it out of our ears. Remember, many of you were wondering a couple of days ago why we wrote that Jones would be up by Friday when the team seemed to be indicating otherwise.

So maybe yes, but maybe no. What I'm wondering is why you would want to extend a guy who made comments that will make a hot prospect's landing a little harder? Why would you extend a player that will make it more difficult for the roster to maintain Bavasi's idea of one position player up every year?

And Wiggen, I'm waiting to read it somewhere else, but I have heard news that will make you happy

Wiggen · August 4th, 2007, 02:00 PM

C'mon Bedir - you can't leave me hanging like that! Spill!

Does it involve another minor league prospect?

bedir than average · August 4th, 2007, 02:50 PM

Yes. One you like. It was something said at the USSM/LL gathering, but none have published so I don't know that their special guest in Tacoma wanted it shared. Goose was there and he might share, but who knows.

Goose · August 4th, 2007, 03:26 PM

I'm gonna try to find out today if I have permission to share stuff.

I will say this Wiggen, it involves Balentien and it's something that completely shocked everybody when Bavasi told us.

Edit:
Ok I got permission to share information on certain things, one of them being the Balentien thing.

Remember how we all thought that the Mariners had to carry Wlad on the club next year or deal him because he's out of options? Well, it turns out that's not true. Wlad still has an option left. A not very well known rule about option it turns out. Some kind of technicality having to do with the total amount of games he's played in the minors or something. So the Mariners do not have to carry him on the big club next year.

bedir than average · August 4th, 2007, 04:23 PM

That flexibility is huge. Particularly with the number of guys coming off the roster after 2008.

Wiggen · August 4th, 2007, 06:16 PM

That is good news. It allows them to give Balentien a couple of months next year at Tacoma to see if he's the real deal (I think he is, but then you know that).

If they extend Guillen, then Balentien has no place to play - unless they decide he converts to first base. I have my doubts about Lahair. Clement is another possibility at first, but I think it's more likely he's the backup catcher and sometime dh next season.

Bedir - who comes off after 2008? Is it both Sexson and Beltre? Anybody else?

bedir than average · August 4th, 2007, 06:29 PM

after 2008 the following contracts are off the books

Sexson - 14M$ in '08
Johjima - 5.2M$ in '08
Ibanez - 5.5M$ in '08
Broussard as '08 is his last year of Arbie
HoRam as '08 is his last year of Arbie
Willie Bloomquist - .95M$ in '08
Jason Davis as '08 is his last year of Arbie

Guillen has an option for '08
Reitsma has an option for '08

Related is that Vidro's vesting option was guarunteed so he waived his no-trade. He is done in '09. Also both YuBet and JoLop signed deals that extend them for some time.

August 4th, 2007, 02:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Yes. One you like. It was something said at the USSM/LL gathering, but none have published so I don't know that their special guest in Tacoma wanted it shared. Goose was there and he might share, but who knows. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

August 4th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Goose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	I'm gonna try to find out today if I have permission to share stuff. I will say this Wiggen, it involves Balentien and it's something that completely shocked everybody when Bavasi told us. Edit: Ok I got permission to share information on certain things, one of them being the Balentien thing. Remember how we all thought that the Mariners had to carry Wlad on the club next year or deal him because he's out of options? Well, it turns out that's not true. Wlad still has an option left. A not very well known rule about option it turns out. Some kind of technicality having to do with the total amount of games he's played in the minors or something. So the Mariners do not have to carry him on the big club next year. __________________ http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/843...idensigfd9.png Last edited by Goose; August 4th, 2007 at 04:17 PM.

August 4th, 2007, 04:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	That flexibility is huge. Particularly with the number of guys coming off the roster after 2008. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

August 4th, 2007, 06:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	after 2008 the following contracts are off the books Sexson - 14M$ in '08 Johjima - 5.2M$ in '08 Ibanez - 5.5M$ in '08 Broussard as '08 is his last year of Arbie HoRam as '08 is his last year of Arbie Willie Bloomquist - .95M$ in '08 Jason Davis as '08 is his last year of Arbie Guillen has an option for '08 Reitsma has an option for '08 Related is that Vidro's vesting option was guarunteed so he waived his no-trade. He is done in '09. Also both YuBet and JoLop signed deals that extend them for some time. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

August 4th, 2007, 02:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Wiggen Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,286	C'mon Bedir - you can't leave me hanging like that! Spill! Does it involve another minor league prospect?

August 4th, 2007, 06:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wiggen Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,286	That is good news. It allows them to give Balentien a couple of months next year at Tacoma to see if he's the real deal (I think he is, but then you know that). If they extend Guillen, then Balentien has no place to play - unless they decide he converts to first base. I have my doubts about Lahair. Clement is another possibility at first, but I think it's more likely he's the backup catcher and sometime dh next season. Bedir - who comes off after 2008? Is it both Sexson and Beltre? Anybody else?