Next two weeks

bedir than average · July 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM

Within the next two weeks the Mariners are going to determine how much in this race they are. it will effect their drive to pursue the top available talent via trade with the excellent offensive farm system they have right now.

So what do the next 15 games look like?

3 @ home v Balt 41-50
3 @ Toronto 45-46
4 @ Texas 39-52
4 @ home v Oakland 44-48
1 @ home v Anaheim, the 31st will be post deadlin, 55-36

Weighted winning percentage is .471, even if the team is really just a .500 level team they should win 8, but there is a great possibility of 10+ wins over this stretch.

If the club is at 60+ wins at the deadline they can buy and buy big.

bedir than average · July 16th, 2007, 06:59 PM

Angels = .504
Indians = .503
Twins = .562

That's the major competition for the playoffs at this time. The Mariners are best suited for a short pre-deadline run. This should translate to them being buyers, hopefully the run doesn't make them complacent.

Wiggen · July 16th, 2007, 11:07 PM

I remain unconvinced that there is anybody out there worth a top level prospect (and I would argue we only have three - Jones, Balentien, and Clement, if you assume Triunfel is not in the picture).

You might be able to get something second tier level for a lesser package - say something including Jeremy Reed - but that's it.

Goose · July 17th, 2007, 01:10 AM

What Wiggen said.

Though with the rumors that the Mariners are talking to Guillen about an extension(why?), we may see something happen soon....

bedir than average · July 17th, 2007, 07:14 AM

Are either of you familiar that Roy Oswalt has said that if he's asked he will accept a deal, and that there are rumors that the Minnesota Twins may have to deal Santana?

Wiggen · July 17th, 2007, 08:38 AM

Oswalt? Santana?

I'm not sure we have enough to get either one should they become available. I think there are teams with so much more to offer - teams with much, much deeper farm systems that could probably include pitching - that I think both are pipe dreams, even if they are available.

Goose · July 17th, 2007, 01:13 PM

I don't really see Santana going anywhere. Yeah the Twins are cheap, but I think they'll shell out the money for the best pitcher in the game. I really don't think they can afford not too.

As far as Oswalt...yeah he'd be nice to have...but I'm a little weary of him. He's starting to go downhill a little and he's reportedly lost a few MPH on his fastball.

bedir than average · July 21st, 2007, 02:48 PM

The Mariners are five games into this stretch and they are 3-2 and the schedule is about to get a bit easier. The Angels are 1-3 and theirs gets tougher.

July 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Next two weeks Within the next two weeks the Mariners are going to determine how much in this race they are. it will effect their drive to pursue the top available talent via trade with the excellent offensive farm system they have right now. So what do the next 15 games look like? 3 @ home v Balt 41-50 3 @ Toronto 45-46 4 @ Texas 39-52 4 @ home v Oakland 44-48 1 @ home v Anaheim, the 31st will be post deadlin, 55-36 Weighted winning percentage is .471, even if the team is really just a .500 level team they should win 8, but there is a great possibility of 10+ wins over this stretch. If the club is at 60+ wins at the deadline they can buy and buy big. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 16th, 2007, 06:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Angels = .504 Indians = .503 Twins = .562 That's the major competition for the playoffs at this time. The Mariners are best suited for a short pre-deadline run. This should translate to them being buyers, hopefully the run doesn't make them complacent. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 17th, 2007, 01:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Goose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	What Wiggen said. Though with the rumors that the Mariners are talking to Guillen about an extension(why?), we may see something happen soon.... __________________ http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/843...idensigfd9.png

July 17th, 2007, 07:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Are either of you familiar that Roy Oswalt has said that if he's asked he will accept a deal, and that there are rumors that the Minnesota Twins may have to deal Santana? __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 17th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
Goose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	I don't really see Santana going anywhere. Yeah the Twins are cheap, but I think they'll shell out the money for the best pitcher in the game. I really don't think they can afford not too. As far as Oswalt...yeah he'd be nice to have...but I'm a little weary of him. He's starting to go downhill a little and he's reportedly lost a few MPH on his fastball. __________________ http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/843...idensigfd9.png

July 16th, 2007, 11:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wiggen Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,286	I remain unconvinced that there is anybody out there worth a top level prospect (and I would argue we only have three - Jones, Balentien, and Clement, if you assume Triunfel is not in the picture). You might be able to get something second tier level for a lesser package - say something including Jeremy Reed - but that's it.

July 17th, 2007, 08:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
Wiggen Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,286	Oswalt? Santana? I'm not sure we have enough to get either one should they become available. I think there are teams with so much more to offer - teams with much, much deeper farm systems that could probably include pitching - that I think both are pipe dreams, even if they are available.

July 21st, 2007, 02:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	The Mariners are five games into this stretch and they are 3-2 and the schedule is about to get a bit easier. The Angels are 1-3 and theirs gets tougher. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.