Trade Deadline Thread - Page 3

Timberwolf · July 26th, 2007, 12:13 PM

After the raod trip from Hell and watching the Fatherrapers (NYY) coming on strong, I'm hoping that the Mariners do not mortgage the future to add old guys.
Jones needs to come up and play. Ibanez, Vidro, and Sexson need to be sitting on the bench two days a week. The combination of grueling travel schedule and advancing age takes its toll.

coachjeff · July 26th, 2007, 01:27 PM

TWolf you are right on the money. My only fear is that by waiting for the entire road trip, it may be too late. There were enormous opportunities with the Angels continuing to open the door for the Mariners, who refused to walk through it. Now we are de-energized and scuffling just to stay within striking distance. BB should have realized after the last homestand that the team needed a shot in the arm, but he stood pat. AJ could have provided the lift, or a deal for help from outside the organization. But standing still has really hurt the ballclub in the past 10 days.

bedir than average · July 26th, 2007, 07:39 PM

Star-Telegram.com | 07/26/2007 | Rangers write Tex-book way to depart Ballpark

Angels talking to Texas about Tex, possibilities include Kotchman

Disputed home run triggers rout

Mariners have scouted Willis ...

Mariners Notebook: Deal for arm unlikely

and other arms.

Sox may hold pieces together on ChicagoSports.com

Only offense that the Mariners have been mentioned about lately is Dye.

Speaking of Willis it seems his mechanics have changed significantly since he was good

The D-Train’s mechanics -- The Hardball Times

bedir than average · July 27th, 2007, 07:26 AM

Jason Jennings and Matt Morris scouted by Seattle.

I'd rather the first then the last as Jennings is a groundballer, younger and cheaper.

Wiggen · July 27th, 2007, 09:10 AM

I'd rather Jennings too, but I'd rather Texeira than either one of them. Not that it is even a remote possibility, however.

Goose · July 27th, 2007, 10:45 PM

Apparently Dye almost went to Boston today in a 3 team deal, but it fell through at the last minute. No mention of who the third team was.

bedir than average · July 28th, 2007, 12:11 PM

Mariners in on "every pitcher available and some who aren't" to include Willis, Garland and Pettitte. Also massive underperformer Kei Igawa. The Mariners are also scouting at least two D-Rays pitchers, Edwin Jackson and Al Reyes.

I would put that collection in the following order of desirability - Pettitte, Willis, Jackson, Reyes and Garland. I like that Jackson once showed a ton of potential, and still has the possibility of being good. He does have five seasons under his belt but all but this are partial. Control issues are his biggest problem, walking 5.13/9 but he's a big strikeout guy that induces the groundball. He'd probably cost the least and have the second largest payoff if he can be fixed (Dontrelle getting fixed would be biggest), and has a low salary number and is under club control for a few more years.

The Yanks obviously won't be dealing any of their staff now that they are only 5 back in the Wild Card, and one back of Seattle.

bedir than average · July 28th, 2007, 12:50 PM

Buster Olney on ESPN Radio likens the Igawa situation to Jose Contreras. Stating that there are teams that think his 18M$ for 4 year contract is reasonable and that a number of teams put in high bids. Those GMs interested think that Igawa might fit better in a different city.

Olney states that much of his struggles might be due to the Yankees inability to bring pitchers along. "they just can not fix guys like this" Igawa may have some sense that Torre doesn't trust him in that he can open the game with 4 scoreless innings and then as soon as he walks one guy in the 5th there are three relievers warming up.

djwhokid · July 29th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedir than average

Jason Jennings and Matt Morris scouted by Seattle.

I'd rather the first then the last as Jennings is a groundballer, younger and cheaper.

Not after Jennings last start.

bedir than average · July 29th, 2007, 10:55 PM

One start defines the pitcher

Roy Halladay June 5, 2007

Pedro April 12, 2003

or anyone else you want to say is amongst the best

Goose · July 30th, 2007, 12:26 AM

The next 50 hours is gonna be like playing a big game of Press Your Luck when it comes to the Mariners.

Good trade good trade good trade, no reliever no reliever no reliever, get rid of the 1b making big moooonnnneyyyyyyyyy STOP!

Timberwolf · July 30th, 2007, 01:08 AM

I have a bad feeling that they are going to do something stupid. Why all the talk about picking up a reliever?

bedir than average · July 30th, 2007, 08:05 AM

I'm actually off of work the next two days. Had vaca to burn and thought, why not the deadline.

bedir than average · July 30th, 2007, 08:31 AM

The daily update of rumors

The search for right handed relief continues, despite it being a foolish notion. Latest mentions are Octavio Dotel (2) and Al Reyes (2).

Larry Stone yesterday stockpiled everyone who has been mentioned, and the dream there is still alive - Roy Oswalt. Think this situation through, but what pitcher has been more consistent as a Cy Young Contender since the turn of the century?

bedir than average · July 30th, 2007, 09:43 AM

Stark with Mitch his section about the Mariners he does say that the Mariners are shopping Richie Sexson a bit.

July 26th, 2007, 07:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Star-Telegram.com \| 07/26/2007 \| Rangers write Tex-book way to depart Ballpark Angels talking to Texas about Tex, possibilities include Kotchman Disputed home run triggers rout Mariners have scouted Willis ... Mariners Notebook: Deal for arm unlikely and other arms. Sox may hold pieces together on ChicagoSports.com Only offense that the Mariners have been mentioned about lately is Dye. Speaking of Willis it seems his mechanics have changed significantly since he was good The D-Train’s mechanics -- The Hardball Times __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 27th, 2007, 07:26 AM	#34 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Jason Jennings and Matt Morris scouted by Seattle. I'd rather the first then the last as Jennings is a groundballer, younger and cheaper. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 27th, 2007, 10:45 PM	#36 (permalink)
Goose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	Apparently Dye almost went to Boston today in a 3 team deal, but it fell through at the last minute. No mention of who the third team was. __________________ http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/843...idensigfd9.png

July 28th, 2007, 12:11 PM	#37 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Mariners in on "every pitcher available and some who aren't" to include Willis, Garland and Pettitte. Also massive underperformer Kei Igawa. The Mariners are also scouting at least two D-Rays pitchers, Edwin Jackson and Al Reyes. I would put that collection in the following order of desirability - Pettitte, Willis, Jackson, Reyes and Garland. I like that Jackson once showed a ton of potential, and still has the possibility of being good. He does have five seasons under his belt but all but this are partial. Control issues are his biggest problem, walking 5.13/9 but he's a big strikeout guy that induces the groundball. He'd probably cost the least and have the second largest payoff if he can be fixed (Dontrelle getting fixed would be biggest), and has a low salary number and is under club control for a few more years. The Yanks obviously won't be dealing any of their staff now that they are only 5 back in the Wild Card, and one back of Seattle. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 28th, 2007, 12:50 PM	#38 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Buster Olney on ESPN Radio likens the Igawa situation to Jose Contreras. Stating that there are teams that think his 18M$ for 4 year contract is reasonable and that a number of teams put in high bids. Those GMs interested think that Igawa might fit better in a different city. Olney states that much of his struggles might be due to the Yankees inability to bring pitchers along. "they just can not fix guys like this" Igawa may have some sense that Torre doesn't trust him in that he can open the game with 4 scoreless innings and then as soon as he walks one guy in the 5th there are three relievers warming up. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 26th, 2007, 12:13 PM	#31 (permalink)
Timberwolf Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,865	After the raod trip from Hell and watching the Fatherrapers (NYY) coming on strong, I'm hoping that the Mariners do not mortgage the future to add old guys. Jones needs to come up and play. Ibanez, Vidro, and Sexson need to be sitting on the bench two days a week. The combination of grueling travel schedule and advancing age takes its toll.

July 26th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#32 (permalink)
coachjeff Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Olympia Posts: 91	TWolf you are right on the money. My only fear is that by waiting for the entire road trip, it may be too late. There were enormous opportunities with the Angels continuing to open the door for the Mariners, who refused to walk through it. Now we are de-energized and scuffling just to stay within striking distance. BB should have realized after the last homestand that the team needed a shot in the arm, but he stood pat. AJ could have provided the lift, or a deal for help from outside the organization. But standing still has really hurt the ballclub in the past 10 days.

July 27th, 2007, 09:10 AM	#35 (permalink)
Wiggen Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,286	I'd rather Jennings too, but I'd rather Texeira than either one of them. Not that it is even a remote possibility, however.

July 29th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#40 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	One start defines the pitcher Roy Halladay June 5, 2007 Pedro April 12, 2003 or anyone else you want to say is amongst the best __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 30th, 2007, 12:26 AM	#41 (permalink)
Goose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	The next 50 hours is gonna be like playing a big game of Press Your Luck when it comes to the Mariners. Good trade good trade good trade, no reliever no reliever no reliever, get rid of the 1b making big moooonnnneyyyyyyyyy STOP! __________________ http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/843...idensigfd9.png

July 30th, 2007, 01:08 AM	#42 (permalink)
Timberwolf Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,865	I have a bad feeling that they are going to do something stupid. Why all the talk about picking up a reliever?

July 30th, 2007, 08:05 AM	#43 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	I'm actually off of work the next two days. Had vaca to burn and thought, why not the deadline. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 30th, 2007, 08:31 AM	#44 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	The daily update of rumors The search for right handed relief continues, despite it being a foolish notion. Latest mentions are Octavio Dotel (2) and Al Reyes (2). Larry Stone yesterday stockpiled everyone who has been mentioned, and the dream there is still alive - Roy Oswalt. Think this situation through, but what pitcher has been more consistent as a Cy Young Contender since the turn of the century? __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

July 30th, 2007, 09:43 AM	#45 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Stark with Mitch his section about the Mariners he does say that the Mariners are shopping Richie Sexson a bit. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.