A Bedir Plan for 2007

bedir than average · 11-19-2006, 09:01 PM

Some have offered aggressive offseasons. Some have asked for a bit of moderation.

Both are saying the same thing. This offseason the talent is mediocre, the prices are high. So unless you can go get huge names via trade, hold yourself back. Position the club for a run by adding average talent at average prices and then acquire someone else's bad deals come the Deadline.

At the deadline there is a lot of talent that might be available at a 50% discount, and at that price those players make sense. Don't buy, don't sell, just BUILD the club to succeed in the long term, as welll as the short.

Deal for a Jason Jennings or Doug Davis, or Nate Robertson if the cost is spare parts like Reed, Mateo, Broussard. If the club could acquire a Coco Crisp to play left field that makes sense as well.

Okha seems to be a relative to this offseason value signing. Get him.

Sure its not a cast of stars, but its better than the 2006 club.

Dada · 11-19-2006, 09:40 PM

Are there rumors for Coco? What would they give up for him? Come to think about it, that could be a good idea for the Mariners. I think Coco can't handle the pressure in Boston.

He could do really well for the Mariners.

bedir than average · 11-19-2006, 11:43 PM

He's just a guy I've been pushing for LF for the Mariners. It seems the Red Sox are no longer happy with Crisp, and might have interest in a few of the parts that the Mariners have. Reed+Broussard would be salary neutral for 2007 and that move would improve the Mariners defense and offense.

I like the look of a Crisp, Ichiro, Snelling OF with Ibanez at DH.

stormshadow · 11-20-2006, 02:19 PM

Crisp has been a disappointment in here in beantown due to injury and lack of getting on base. They may give him antoehr season but it would not surprise me to see him packaged up and traded. I have no clue as to who they would get for a CF and lead off hitter.

Chris · 11-20-2006, 03:32 PM

A year ago, some people thought that Crisp would outproduce Damon.

I'd like to see him play an injury free year and see what he can do.

If we can get him without giving too much, I say pull the trigger.

stormshadow · 11-20-2006, 03:34 PM

I am out of the loop as far as who would be a viable replacement as football season has consumed me.

steeplechase3k · 11-20-2006, 04:09 PM

The Red Sox don't need a long term solution at CF, within 2 years Jacoby Elsbury should be playing there. My guess is that the Red Sox try to get by with Crisp there for this year, and then go with Elsbury...

stormshadow · 11-20-2006, 04:11 PM

That leaves Youk as the leadoff to get on base if Crisp faulters

JasonAChurchill · 11-20-2006, 10:31 PM

Speaking of center fielders, the Blue Jays are looking to add Gary Matthews so they can deal Vernon Wells...

Goose · 11-21-2006, 12:00 AM

Hehe we're up and going.

Alright.

The Iceman Cometh · 11-21-2006, 03:14 PM

The Coco Crisp idea is interesting... a defensive improvement certainly, but I'm not convinced Crisp would provide as much as Broussard + random righty at the plate.

Chris · 11-21-2006, 04:37 PM

Hmmm.... Vernon Wells, I wonder who would be in the running for his services?

RotatorCuff · 11-21-2006, 04:57 PM

I like Coco Crisp but in LF. Certainly not in CF as the Red Sox have found out.

bedir than average · 11-21-2006, 04:59 PM

That's what I'm talking about. Ichiro in CF

RotatorCuff · 11-21-2006, 05:45 PM

As for Vernon Wells I can promise you that the Blue Jays are doing everything they can to retain him.

I just have a feeling he wants to test the market after next season.

11-19-2006, 09:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	A Bedir Plan for 2007 Some have offered aggressive offseasons. Some have asked for a bit of moderation. Both are saying the same thing. This offseason the talent is mediocre, the prices are high. So unless you can go get huge names via trade, hold yourself back. Position the club for a run by adding average talent at average prices and then acquire someone else's bad deals come the Deadline. At the deadline there is a lot of talent that might be available at a 50% discount, and at that price those players make sense. Don't buy, don't sell, just BUILD the club to succeed in the long term, as welll as the short. Deal for a Jason Jennings or Doug Davis, or Nate Robertson if the cost is spare parts like Reed, Mateo, Broussard. If the club could acquire a Coco Crisp to play left field that makes sense as well. Okha seems to be a relative to this offseason value signing. Get him. Sure its not a cast of stars, but its better than the 2006 club. __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

11-19-2006, 11:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	He's just a guy I've been pushing for LF for the Mariners. It seems the Red Sox are no longer happy with Crisp, and might have interest in a few of the parts that the Mariners have. Reed+Broussard would be salary neutral for 2007 and that move would improve the Mariners defense and offense. I like the look of a Crisp, Ichiro, Snelling OF with Ibanez at DH. __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

11-20-2006, 02:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
stormshadow Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22	Crisp has been a disappointment in here in beantown due to injury and lack of getting on base. They may give him antoehr season but it would not surprise me to see him packaged up and traded. I have no clue as to who they would get for a CF and lead off hitter. __________________ 2001, 2003 and 2004 SB Champs! Your New England Patriots

11-20-2006, 03:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
stormshadow Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22	I am out of the loop as far as who would be a viable replacement as football season has consumed me. __________________ 2001, 2003 and 2004 SB Champs! Your New England Patriots

11-20-2006, 04:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
steeplechase3k Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 125	The Red Sox don't need a long term solution at CF, within 2 years Jacoby Elsbury should be playing there. My guess is that the Red Sox try to get by with Crisp there for this year, and then go with Elsbury... __________________ --There are some who call me... Tim.--

11-19-2006, 09:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dada Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 125	Are there rumors for Coco? What would they give up for him? Come to think about it, that could be a good idea for the Mariners. I think Coco can't handle the pressure in Boston. He could do really well for the Mariners.

11-20-2006, 03:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chris Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CT Posts: 138	A year ago, some people thought that Crisp would outproduce Damon. I'd like to see him play an injury free year and see what he can do. If we can get him without giving too much, I say pull the trigger.

11-20-2006, 04:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
stormshadow Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22	That leaves Youk as the leadoff to get on base if Crisp faulters __________________ 2001, 2003 and 2004 SB Champs! Your New England Patriots

11-20-2006, 10:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
JasonAChurchill Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 154	Speaking of center fielders, the Blue Jays are looking to add Gary Matthews so they can deal Vernon Wells...

11-21-2006, 12:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Goose Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	Hehe we're up and going. Alright.

11-21-2006, 03:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
The Iceman Cometh Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 176	The Coco Crisp idea is interesting... a defensive improvement certainly, but I'm not convinced Crisp would provide as much as Broussard + random righty at the plate.

11-21-2006, 04:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
Chris Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CT Posts: 138	Hmmm.... Vernon Wells, I wonder who would be in the running for his services?

11-21-2006, 04:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
RotatorCuff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 257	I like Coco Crisp but in LF. Certainly not in CF as the Red Sox have found out. Last edited by RotatorCuff; 12-02-2006 at 03:01 PM.

11-21-2006, 04:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	That's what I'm talking about. Ichiro in CF __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

11-21-2006, 05:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
RotatorCuff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 257	As for Vernon Wells I can promise you that the Blue Jays are doing everything they can to retain him. I just have a feeling he wants to test the market after next season. Last edited by RotatorCuff; 12-02-2006 at 03:02 PM.