Snelling and Fruto dealt - WaPost reporting for Vidro

[Slica]

Im glad I got a jump in learning about the Brewers last year myself. If my team is going to be mediocre, at least im gonna enjoy it.

Besides, Cecil's son is a freaking monster.

Oh, and the vocabulary word doesn't surprise me. Look up 'Grover' and you'll find the smarter version---the sesame street character.

[bedir than average]

Seattle Blogs take on the incident

USSMariner Considering they have at least four stories on it, this is the easies way.

But they do have this from Baseball Prospectus

Younger, cheaper, and better. It’s hard to win a trade when you’re on the wrong side of each of those parameters.

With PECOTA 2007 saying the following

                   EqBA EqOBP EqSLG EqA Age ‘07 Salary
Jose Vidro     .283   .352   .406   .266 32 $7.5M
Chris Snelling .265   .356   .438   .283 25 $1.0M*

LookOutLanding (also several threads on it) That link goes to my favorite one there.

I'm running out of words to say about this, primarily because the English language isn't equipped in such a way as to describe such brazen incompetence. Bill Bavasi dealt a young, cheap, good hitter for an old, expensive, arguably worse one, tossing in a talented young arm and a vesting option for good measure. In no way, shape, or form could this ever be mistaken for a good idea. It just couldn't. There's no way.

DetectoVision First SABRMatt's take and then DrDetecto, formally jemangi and a couple other names on the old FanHome.

And now I realize one of the things I like about the software here is that we don't need a seperate thread for each person's opinion.

[The Iceman Cometh]

I can't handle this trade... Bavasi's going to leave behind a bigger mess than Gillick did.

[bedir than average]

At least Bavasi still has the Fontaine draft class.

[The Iceman Cometh]

Not for long...

[bedir than average]

Ice, it is not as if they've dealt anyone of signifigance from the Fontaine era. They still have Morrow, Clement, Jones, Butler. The Top10 is a whos who of Fontaine's drafts.

[The Iceman Cometh]

I meant "not for long" as in Bavasi won't be around long enough to enjoy the fruits of Fontaine's brilliance. Someone else will hopefully "have" those draft classes a year from now.

On another note, here's an entertaining quote from the Nationals Scout site, just prior to the details of the trade being released:

Well Vidro can play a little 3rd and 1st too...I just know if he goes somewhere it will be an AL team. I hope this trade is true though. Id love to get Baek.

[Goose]

The only thing thats going to suck about losing Bavasi is that we are likely going to lose Fontaine as well.

The Mariners should be giving HIM $6 million a year to stay.

[Sneekes]

We could do with Bavasi holding onto his job until mid June - so that we can have one more Fontaine draft.

My hope then is that we're doing so terribly that Yamauchi or whoever sees Lincoln's ultimatum to Bavasi as the such an awful error - that the front office is completely cleared out.

Can you imagine how hot Bavasi's phone is right now? - I bet all 29 GMs are hitting re-dial non-stop.

[Slica]

This begs a question:

Do you think it is smarter for people in Howard Lincoln's position to not threaten GMs about their jobs considering they may go to desperation mode? Gotta wake them up somehow...but in hindsight to what has happened to our franchise in the last month...do you think it was a good idea?

[RotatorCuff]

I look at Vidro's numbers over the past couple of seasons and I am reminded of Carlos Baerga.

When Baerga was with the Indians he looked like he was a future HOF'er. Then he was dealt and something drastically went wrong.

I want to remind you all that Vidro was in fact one hell of a player when he wore an Expo uniform. He was probably one of the top 10 players in baseball. Obviously we can't say that about him now.

What the real head scratcher is for me with this deal is that we are apparently going to use him at DH???

Where in the world did Bavasi come up with the bright idea that Vidro was an excellent choice to be the teams new DH???

[The Iceman Cometh]

It sounds like that how Vidro was being shopped.

He can only play the field 1 day a week, so an AL club looking to upgrade at DH was the obvious fit, and Bavasi was just the dope to go for it.

Do you think it is smarter for people in Howard Lincoln's position to not threaten GMs about their jobs considering they may go to desperation mode?

Yeah, Slica, I think it is smarter to not threaten. GM's already know when they're in the hot seat. It doesn't need to be official.

[lastexit]

Vidro is a much better hitter than he gets credit for. career .301 and that includes some really top-notch years playing for really bad lineups. I suspect he'll do just fine. Probably DH half the time and spot-start in the field where he's not bad.

I've yet to figure out why ya'll think Snelling is so great but Fruto being in this deal as well seems a bit strange.

[edddgar]

Originally Posted by lastexit

Vidro is a much better hitter than he gets credit for. career .301 and that includes some really top-notch years playing for really bad lineups. I suspect he'll do just fine. Probably DH half the time and spot-start in the field where he's not bad.

I've yet to figure out why ya'll think Snelling is so great but Fruto being in this deal as well seems a bit strange.

He also hasn't hit .300 or better since 2003. He's also never has played more than 153 games in a season and has played in 150 or more only twice in his 9 year career. To expect anything major from Vidro, be ready to be dissapointed.

Snelling possesses very good plate discipline and when he gets that good pitch he can do something with it. He also displays great hustle and wants to win. Don't forget he's also 7 years younger and at least $5 million cheaper (for what the Mariners will have to pay).

[sportznutt]

My jaw is dropped....Jose friggin' Vidro, $12 million until 2009, and we lose two players?!?!?!