Soriano for Horacio Rameriz - Page 2

RotatorCuff · December 6th, 2006, 06:51 PM

This is funny:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=MLB&id=3207

M's Fan · December 6th, 2006, 06:54 PM

What an awful trade...

Words can't even describe how I feel.

Slica · December 6th, 2006, 07:50 PM

Oh God dont even look at lookout landing.

Their comparison of him and Joel Pineiro just adds to it.

It has been confirmed, though it was said the M's might want a prospect in return.

Seriously this trade is so bad, im surprised Atlanta didnt throw in a prospect just to make THEMSELVES feel better.

Now, ignoring hindsight...would this be the worst trade in franchise history? I know the Slocumb was bad when it happened, and got way worse years later...but man this is terrible.

Ill rely on you guys for play, and ill eye the stats and standings...but im not watching another game until they are gone from the FO. ALL OF THEM. Outside the Super Bowl Screwjob, and the Cortez Kennedy HOF Screwjob, I dont remember being more upset in sports.

Lamda · December 6th, 2006, 08:05 PM

that's funny slica... or they should have atleast offered to pay his salary for 2007 ... or who knows - hopefully they gave Bavasi some advil for his ass after they raped it.

bedir than average · December 6th, 2006, 08:06 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=2689119

Using words like "on the verge" and "close" not LOCK, or DONE.

Note that the same person who started the Seattle-Atlanta rumor said that the Pitt-Atl rumor was a done deal, and that has fallen through.

Jim Potable · December 6th, 2006, 08:11 PM

Enough to keep the M's blogosphere awake all night. I guess there is still hope that that stupid Soriano-for-Ramirez-straight-up is just a bad rumor.

Slica · December 6th, 2006, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedir than average

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=2689119

Using words like "on the verge" and "close" not LOCK, or DONE.

Note that the same person who started the Seattle-Atlanta rumor said that the Pitt-Atl rumor was a done deal, and that has fallen through.

If only if us Seattle fans are that lucky.

I guess you look at it this way: would you rather have Pineiro back with Soriano in the pen, or Horacio Ramirez and the loss of Soriano?

Honestly, I rather them just throw money at Zito or trade for Hudson over this. (Ill retract that comment if the trade does not go down). This trade is just too horrible. Our FO has a knack at waiting for players values to get at an all time low before trading them, and then making horrible trades in general when players are at a high.

This has to make video game GMs proud of themselves. Im not a business man, and I hate paperwork in general...but I honestly believe I could of done a better job than they did on a trade with Soriano. Atlanta was desperate for bullpen help...one player (Gonzalez) wasn't going to change that.

Slica · December 6th, 2006, 08:37 PM

Detectovision has interesting takes...none in which really do anything to change my opinion of the deal.

Again, like Cabrera...hes tradeable...but we coulda done better...in this case...MUCH better.

It does make sense that Jeremy Reed becomes a trading chip for bullpen help.

Then again is doesnt matter if we get more bullpen help because any decent starter we have in the minors will end up in the bullpen anyways. Thats how it goes in the land of Cosmos, Patricks, and Odies.

Yes, im aware I used cartoon character references. After all, Marinerland is a big giant cartoon. Unfortunately, its rated R...for retarded.

Goose · December 6th, 2006, 08:40 PM

There's been so much misinformation and bullcrap thrown around the internet today, that I've reverting back to John Q Mariner fan mode.

I don't care what newspapers say, I don't care what Dave Cameron's sources say or Jason Churchill's, I don't care what rotoworld says, and I sure in the heck don't care what some random guy from Scout says.

This deal does not even exist until it shows up on the official Seattle Mariners website or I see Bill Bavasi himself on the tv hosting a live press conference announcing it.

The Iceman Cometh · December 6th, 2006, 09:01 PM

The only way I could emit more vomit is if we're the ones throwing in a prospect.

edddgar · December 6th, 2006, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose

There's been so much misinformation and bullcrap thrown around the internet today, that I've reverting back to John Q Mariner fan mode.

I don't care what newspapers say, I don't care what Dave Cameron's sources say or Jason Churchill's, I don't care what rotoworld says, and I sure in the heck don't care what some random guy from Scout says.

This deal does not even exist until it shows up on the official Seattle Mariners website or I see Bill Bavasi himself on the tv hosting a live press conference announcing it.

Start believing then...

Looks like it's actually going to happen...

Slica · December 7th, 2006, 06:52 AM

There are so many conflicting reports everywhere. You'd think Roger Clemens was thinking about retiring, or something.

Seriously, im starting to think Bavasi was the one hit in the head off Vlad's line drive.

bedir than average · December 7th, 2006, 09:17 AM

KJR is still saying that it is unconfirmed.

Slica · December 7th, 2006, 10:06 AM

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/b...ves/109457.asp

bedir than average · December 7th, 2006, 10:07 AM

Hope just died.

December 6th, 2006, 06:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
M's Fan Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Washington State Posts: 54	What an awful trade... Words can't even describe how I feel. __________________ Mariners - Clippers - Panthers - Bearcats - Chargers Much success to you, even if you wish me the opposite... Sooner or later, we'll all see who the prophet is...

December 6th, 2006, 08:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...mlb&id=2689119 Using words like "on the verge" and "close" not LOCK, or DONE. Note that the same person who started the Seattle-Atlanta rumor said that the Pitt-Atl rumor was a done deal, and that has fallen through. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 6th, 2006, 08:40 PM	#24 (permalink)
Goose Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	There's been so much misinformation and bullcrap thrown around the internet today, that I've reverting back to John Q Mariner fan mode. I don't care what newspapers say, I don't care what Dave Cameron's sources say or Jason Churchill's, I don't care what rotoworld says, and I sure in the heck don't care what some random guy from Scout says. This deal does not even exist until it shows up on the official Seattle Mariners website or I see Bill Bavasi himself on the tv hosting a live press conference announcing it. __________________ http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/843...idensigfd9.png

December 7th, 2006, 09:17 AM	#28 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	KJR is still saying that it is unconfirmed. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 7th, 2006, 10:07 AM	#30 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Hope just died. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 6th, 2006, 06:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
RotatorCuff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 257	This is funny: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=MLB&id=3207

December 6th, 2006, 07:50 PM	#18 (permalink)
Slica Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 168	Oh God dont even look at lookout landing. Their comparison of him and Joel Pineiro just adds to it. It has been confirmed, though it was said the M's might want a prospect in return. Seriously this trade is so bad, im surprised Atlanta didnt throw in a prospect just to make THEMSELVES feel better. Now, ignoring hindsight...would this be the worst trade in franchise history? I know the Slocumb was bad when it happened, and got way worse years later...but man this is terrible. Ill rely on you guys for play, and ill eye the stats and standings...but im not watching another game until they are gone from the FO. ALL OF THEM. Outside the Super Bowl Screwjob, and the Cortez Kennedy HOF Screwjob, I dont remember being more upset in sports.

December 6th, 2006, 08:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
Lamda Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redmond Posts: 42	that's funny slica... or they should have atleast offered to pay his salary for 2007 ... or who knows - hopefully they gave Bavasi some advil for his ass after they raped it.

December 6th, 2006, 08:11 PM	#21 (permalink)
Jim Potable Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aichi, Japan Posts: 205	Enough to keep the M's blogosphere awake all night. I guess there is still hope that that stupid Soriano-for-Ramirez-straight-up is just a bad rumor.

December 6th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
Slica Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 168	Detectovision has interesting takes...none in which really do anything to change my opinion of the deal. Again, like Cabrera...hes tradeable...but we coulda done better...in this case...MUCH better. It does make sense that Jeremy Reed becomes a trading chip for bullpen help. Then again is doesnt matter if we get more bullpen help because any decent starter we have in the minors will end up in the bullpen anyways. Thats how it goes in the land of Cosmos, Patricks, and Odies. Yes, im aware I used cartoon character references. After all, Marinerland is a big giant cartoon. Unfortunately, its rated R...for retarded.

December 6th, 2006, 09:01 PM	#25 (permalink)
The Iceman Cometh Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 176	The only way I could emit more vomit is if we're the ones throwing in a prospect.

December 7th, 2006, 06:52 AM	#27 (permalink)
Slica Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 168	There are so many conflicting reports everywhere. You'd think Roger Clemens was thinking about retiring, or something. Seriously, im starting to think Bavasi was the one hit in the head off Vlad's line drive.

December 7th, 2006, 10:06 AM	#29 (permalink)
Slica Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 168	http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/b...ves/109457.asp