Are Erik Bedard and Geoff Jenkins Seattle-bound?

djwhokid · December 5th, 2007, 02:02 AM

From Geoff Baker:

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That leaves the Mariners as a team that's been described by at least one Baltimore official as "the best fit" for a trade. As I said, that could change. But it's pretty clear the Orioles are looking for a package that includes outfielder Adam Jones, pitcher Brandon Morrow and possibly another relief arm or a bat like Wladimir Balentien.

The O's are said to be higher on Balentien than on Jeff Clement, since they are stocked with catchers in the minors. They also aren't all that convinced Clement is going to be the real deal in the majors.

Yes, the M's will have to find another outfielder if they trade Jones. Yes, they talked to the agent for Geoff Jenkins today. A lot of talk. We could start seeing action in the next day or two.

The Seattle Times: Sports: Mariners Blog

Get it done Bavasi. I would want to keep Brandon Morrow and glady give the O's Adam Jones, Jeff Clement, and Wladimir Balentien for Bedard.

Sign Hiroki Kuroda and Geoff Jenkins.

Rotation wouldn't look that bad:

Felix
Erik Bedard
Wash
Batista
Kuroda/Morrow

bedir than average · December 5th, 2007, 06:18 PM

Did you read the peice, they have no interest in Jeff Clement. He is a redundant peice for them.

djwhokid · December 5th, 2007, 06:30 PM

I would hope a 3-way trade can be worked out.

Bedard is money.

JMUplayer · December 5th, 2007, 09:58 PM

Why would anyone want Geoff Jenkins..... Overpriced below average guy at best/ horrible fielder.... There are much better options for the money than him.

RotatorCuff · December 6th, 2007, 07:22 PM

I think it's pretty evident that there is no way the Mariners pick up a TOR pitcher without giving up Jones.

It's unfortunate but that is the way it has to be.

It shows the lack of chips that Bavasi has to play with.

Seriously, if you were a GM of another team would the Mariners roster or players in the their system make you salivate?

Of course not and that is why Jones is probably as good as gone.

phredmojo · December 6th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotatorCuff

I think it's pretty evident that there is no way the Mariners pick up a TOR pitcher without giving up Jones.

It's unfortunate but that is the way it has to be.

It shows the lack of chips that Bavasi has to play with.

Seriously, if you were a GM of another team would the Mariners roster or players in the their system make you salivate?

Of course not and that is why Jones is probably as good as gone.

along with at least 2 of clement, morrow balentein,Triunfel if not all

bedir than average · December 8th, 2007, 08:37 PM

How many TOR pitchers that have been dealt recently don't involve a player of Jones' caliber?

RotatorCuff · December 9th, 2007, 09:59 AM

Exactly. But it is alarming that we have a great young player in Jones but he has to be dealt to improve a horribly weak part of the ball club.

I don't think there is any combination of any players in the system (that doesn't include Jones) that will pry even a #3 starter to Seattle.

That is just a sad fact.

bedir than average · December 9th, 2007, 10:15 AM

And typical of EVERY organization.

Every org in the Santana talks has been asked for their best player, same for Bedard, same even for Wilis.

RotatorCuff · December 9th, 2007, 11:18 AM

Of course they always ask for the best player in the organization but that doesn't mean they always get it. It never hurts to ask.

But bedir, you have to admit that the list of our top prospects is pretty weak.

We can't offer any kind of attractive deal without including Jones.

It would be nice to be excited about an 88 win season and it was certainly a refreshing change but the fact remains that this starting staff is horrible.

It is pretty much baffling as to how the team won 88 games???

bedir than average · December 9th, 2007, 06:14 PM

Yes, baffling, I finally stop predicting 88 wins and that's when they get it

As for packages without Jones, if there is a team with a starter that needed a catcher (say Tampa if Kazmir cost more) Clement would have value, the thing is neither Minn nor Balt need a C

December 5th, 2007, 06:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Did you read the peice, they have no interest in Jeff Clement. He is a redundant peice for them. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 8th, 2007, 08:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	How many TOR pitchers that have been dealt recently don't involve a player of Jones' caliber? __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 9th, 2007, 10:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	And typical of EVERY organization. Every org in the Santana talks has been asked for their best player, same for Bedard, same even for Wilis. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 9th, 2007, 06:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Yes, baffling, I finally stop predicting 88 wins and that's when they get it As for packages without Jones, if there is a team with a starter that needed a catcher (say Tampa if Kazmir cost more) Clement would have value, the thing is neither Minn nor Balt need a C __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

December 5th, 2007, 09:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
JMUplayer Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 204	Why would anyone want Geoff Jenkins..... Overpriced below average guy at best/ horrible fielder.... There are much better options for the money than him.

December 6th, 2007, 07:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
RotatorCuff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 257	I think it's pretty evident that there is no way the Mariners pick up a TOR pitcher without giving up Jones. It's unfortunate but that is the way it has to be. It shows the lack of chips that Bavasi has to play with. Seriously, if you were a GM of another team would the Mariners roster or players in the their system make you salivate? Of course not and that is why Jones is probably as good as gone.

December 9th, 2007, 09:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
RotatorCuff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 257	Exactly. But it is alarming that we have a great young player in Jones but he has to be dealt to improve a horribly weak part of the ball club. I don't think there is any combination of any players in the system (that doesn't include Jones) that will pry even a #3 starter to Seattle. That is just a sad fact.

December 9th, 2007, 11:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
RotatorCuff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 257	Of course they always ask for the best player in the organization but that doesn't mean they always get it. It never hurts to ask. But bedir, you have to admit that the list of our top prospects is pretty weak. We can't offer any kind of attractive deal without including Jones. It would be nice to be excited about an 88 win season and it was certainly a refreshing change but the fact remains that this starting staff is horrible. It is pretty much baffling as to how the team won 88 games???