Yanks, D-Backs close to Unit deal?

Timmer · 12-29-2006, 06:34 PM

New York Daily News - Sports - Yanks, D-Backs close to Unit deal

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The Diamondbacks have been the most aggressive suitors for Randy Johnson and sources close to the negotiations said yesterday that the Yankees and Arizona could complete a trade to send Johnson back to the desert before next week.

The Diamondbacks, who view Johnson as a gate attraction, want to talk to the Big Unit about a contract extension, a source said. That would give Arizona a chance to reap the attendance and buzz benefits of Johnson going for his 300th victory - he will enter next season with 280 wins.

The Yankees, meanwhile, have their eyes on a package of Arizona pitching prospects. The Diamondbacks are loaded with young talent and if the Yankees send Johnson home to Arizona - Johnson's home is in the Phoenix suburb of Paradise Valley - they'd like to get at least two of the following three pitchers: Dustin Nippert, Micah Owings and Ross Ohlendorf.

Nippert, 25, is a 6-8 righthander who was 13-8 with a 4.87 ERA in Triple-A last season and lost both his major league starts. Owings, a 6-5 righty, was 6-2 at Double-A and 10-0 at Triple-A. Ohlendorf, a 6-4 righty, spent most of last season in Double-A, going 10-8 with a 3.29 ERA. Ohlendorf had 125 strikeouts and only 29 walks in 177-2/3 innings.

Looks like the deal is getting closer.

Do you think that any of these guys can provide any help for '07? If not, are the Yankees relying too much on Pavano?

Who else is there to be the 5th starter if Pavo is hurt again?

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Once a deal is agreed to, the Diamondbacks will want to discuss a one-year extension with Johnson, and if they don't like what they hear then, the trade could still fall apart.

JoeSeadog · 12-30-2006, 04:24 AM

Even a single win from Carl Pavanao has to be viewed as a bonus. Whenever I hear talk of the Yankees possible rotation and Pavano is mentioned I have to laugh. That is one egg in your basket that can't be counted. If he comes in healthy and wins 12-14 games, fine. But who would blink an eye if you saw spring training notes and read that he felt pain in his elbow or was nursing a hamstring. If we can name off 4 solid entries to the rotation and have 3 or 4 others battling for the 5th spot with Pavano among them, its about as far as you can depend on him.

bombersfan49 · 12-30-2006, 08:46 AM

If we expect nothing from Pavano, then why not trade him and get at least something we can count on. At the very least we can free up the millions we're paying him now for nothing.

Timmer · 12-31-2006, 12:02 AM

Hey, Joe, welcome. Glad to see you here.

Timmer · 12-31-2006, 12:04 AM

So we're left with Wang, Pettitte, Moose, Iggy, and what? Rasner? Acquiring a fifth starter type would be very smart, IMO. (I don't think the Yankees want to pay the price for someone like D-Train.)

bombersfan49 · 01-01-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmer

So we're left with Wang, Pettitte, Moose, Iggy, and what? Rasner? Acquiring a fifth starter type would be very smart, IMO. (I don't think the Yankees want to pay the price for someone like D-Train.)

No way. I don't see Cashman letting RJ go unless Clemens is a lock to come back. The question in everyone's mind is will Roger come back for the start of the season or want to wait until June like last year.

Ilovethemets · 01-04-2007, 04:51 PM

DEAL COMPLETE

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According to Sweeny Murti on WFAN, the Yankees have traded Randy Johnson back to the D’Backs in exchange for Luis Vizcaino and minor leaguers RHP Steven Jackson, RHP Ross Ohlendorf and SS Alberto Gonzalez.

MetsBlog.com :: News: Yankees Trade Randy Johnson

Timmer · 01-04-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilovethemets

DEAL COMPLETE

MetsBlog.com :: News: Yankees Trade Randy Johnson

Rotoworld is confirming this.

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The Diamondbacks and Yankees have informed the commissioner's office of the specifics of a Randy Johnson trade, leaving an extension for Johnson the only remaining obstacle.

The 72-hour window for working out a deal is now open. The Diamondbacks aren't expected to do the deal unless they can get Johnson signed for 2008. However, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. The AP confirms the WFAN report that the Yankees will receive Luis Vizcaino, right-hander Ross Ohlendorf and shortstop Alberto Gonzalez in return, but only says that an additional minor league pitcher may be included. WFAN reported that the fourth player would be right-hander Steven Jackson. We're not particularly high on Ohlendorf or the lesser prospects, but this still isn't a bad deal for the Yankees. They'll only be paying $1.5 million-$2 million of the $16 million Johnson is owed next season. Factoring in the luxury tax and Vizcaino's salary, they're saving about $18 million here.

Looks like a good deal, although I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't get Micah Owings. (But that is somewhat like acquiring Clippard and being disppointed that you didn't get Hughes.) Still, Vizcaino should help the Yankees' bullpen and Scranton should have a solid rotation with Hughes, Sancez, Clippard, Ohlendorf, and White.I haven't seen stats on these guys. Does anyone have them?

Dan · 01-04-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmer

Rotoworld is confirming this.

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Looks like a good deal, although I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't get Micah Owings. (But that is somewhat like acquiring Clippard and being disppointed that you didn't get Hughes.) Still, Vizcaino should help the Yankees' bullpen and Scranton should have a solid rotation with Hughes, Sancez, Clippard, Ohlendorf, and White.I haven't seen stats on these guys. Does anyone have them?

Ohlendorf is better than Owens. That's what I think at least.

Premium · 01-04-2007, 08:17 PM

Gonzalez only has a future as a possible utility man. He really doesn't have the bat or plate discipline to make it at the higher levels. Plays shortstop right now. He'll be 24.

Dan · 01-04-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Premium

Gonzalez only has a future as a possible utility man. He really doesn't have the bat or plate discipline to make it at the higher levels. Plays shortstop right now. He'll be 24.

Very slick field. But he will never be an impact hitter. I agree with you on your assesment. Utility man sounds about right.

Timmer · 01-05-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Premium

Gonzalez only has a future as a possible utility man. He really doesn't have the bat or plate discipline to make it at the higher levels. Plays shortstop right now. He'll be 24.

Although he did hit .290 in AA last year.

The Yankees don't hve a utility IF right now. Is he a candidate?

Premium · 01-05-2007, 05:19 AM

I doubt Gonzalez can make the roster this year, however in the future it's not impossible. The question will be if he can hit enough to sustain a Major League utility job. There's little doubt he can get it done in the field.

Jackson and Ohlendorf are really the prizes of the trade, and continue the Cashman trend of stockpiling quality young arms.

It's nice to have four "In Case of Emergency" young guns in Clippard, Hughes, Sanchez, and Ohlendorf. Not to mention the quality the Yankees are building at the lower levels.

Timmer · 01-05-2007, 11:23 AM

Looks like Scranton has 7 good starters: Hughes, Sanchez, Clippard, Ohlendorf, White, Jackson, and DeSalvo. I think that may indicate that another move is coming.

The Yankees need a utility IF (Cairo?) and a backup catcher, and I would like to see a spot for Bernie.

Do they trade either Phillips or Phelps to Washington for Brnadon harper?

mracura · 01-17-2007, 06:45 PM

No spot for Bernie. He needs to retire and respect what the Yankees are currently trying to do...get younger!!

12-30-2006, 08:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
bombersfan49 New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Vermont USA Posts: 7	If we expect nothing from Pavano, then why not trade him and get at least something we can count on. At the very least we can free up the millions we're paying him now for nothing. __________________ The red shirt of the landing party.

12-30-2006, 04:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
JoeSeadog Rookie Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 13	Even a single win from Carl Pavanao has to be viewed as a bonus. Whenever I hear talk of the Yankees possible rotation and Pavano is mentioned I have to laugh. That is one egg in your basket that can't be counted. If he comes in healthy and wins 12-14 games, fine. But who would blink an eye if you saw spring training notes and read that he felt pain in his elbow or was nursing a hamstring. If we can name off 4 solid entries to the rotation and have 3 or 4 others battling for the 5th spot with Pavano among them, its about as far as you can depend on him.

12-31-2006, 12:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Timmer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,881	Hey, Joe, welcome. Glad to see you here.

12-31-2006, 12:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Timmer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,881	So we're left with Wang, Pettitte, Moose, Iggy, and what? Rasner? Acquiring a fifth starter type would be very smart, IMO. (I don't think the Yankees want to pay the price for someone like D-Train.)

01-04-2007, 08:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Premium New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	Gonzalez only has a future as a possible utility man. He really doesn't have the bat or plate discipline to make it at the higher levels. Plays shortstop right now. He'll be 24.

01-05-2007, 05:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
Premium New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	I doubt Gonzalez can make the roster this year, however in the future it's not impossible. The question will be if he can hit enough to sustain a Major League utility job. There's little doubt he can get it done in the field. Jackson and Ohlendorf are really the prizes of the trade, and continue the Cashman trend of stockpiling quality young arms. It's nice to have four "In Case of Emergency" young guns in Clippard, Hughes, Sanchez, and Ohlendorf. Not to mention the quality the Yankees are building at the lower levels.

01-05-2007, 11:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
Timmer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,881	Looks like Scranton has 7 good starters: Hughes, Sanchez, Clippard, Ohlendorf, White, Jackson, and DeSalvo. I think that may indicate that another move is coming. The Yankees need a utility IF (Cairo?) and a backup catcher, and I would like to see a spot for Bernie. Do they trade either Phillips or Phelps to Washington for Brnadon harper?

01-17-2007, 06:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
mracura Rookie Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8	No spot for Bernie. He needs to retire and respect what the Yankees are currently trying to do...get younger!!