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Old 07-06-2007, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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SURRY, Va. -- Federal authorities have filed court documents outlining an alleged dogfighting operation at a property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, The Associated Press reported Friday.


Vick is not named in the documents.
ESPN - Sources: Vick unlikely to be indicted in feds probe - NFL

The Feds are involved because Vick is a high profile athlete. Absolutely ridiculous. Vick is innocent. The stories of Vick's alleged involvement are full of holes.
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If they are only involved because of Vick, why is he not even named in the documents? Or likely to be indicted?

That does not make much sense.
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Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.

During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.

From the link above.
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Perhaps if he didn't lay down with dogs...
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Well that is a different federal crime.
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Its nice to see our law enforcement taking a hard stance against dog fighting.

If only they did the same against child molesters and pedophiles.
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Its nice to see our law enforcement taking a hard stance against dog fighting.

If only they did the same against child molesters and pedophiles.
And republicans. (sarcasm alert)
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Its nice to see our law enforcement taking a hard stance against dog fighting.

If only they did the same against child molesters and pedophiles.
Except that there are laws against all three.
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dj - good to see your serious case of Man-love for Michael Vick continues. I can only conclude he's one of your hold-over players in a fantasy league. Take a tip from one who means you well, dj. Dump him. Draft somebody new.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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There are between 20,000 and 40,000 people in the U.S. who participate in dog fighting activities. If we average the two numbers, one-one hundredth of one percent of the U.S. population is involved in dog fighting. By contrast, 31% of women in the U.S. - about 49 million - report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives. Nearly 25% of U.S. women - about 38.25 million -report being raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime.

Dog fighting or abuse of women? You tell me which issue is more important.

You tell me why Tom Lantos (D-Ca.) feels the need to speak out against Michael Vick and dog fighting, but not against Patrick Kerney or his friends and the rape and physical abuse of women?
Michael Vick-Patrick Kerney: The Difference Comes Down to One Issue « The Starting Five

Quite the double standard.

And BTW, here is the Patrick Kerney story:

Atlanta Falcons, Patrick Kerney, National Football League, Seattle Seahawks - CBS SportsLine.com

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ATLANTA -- Police are investigating a woman's claims she was raped at the home of former Atlanta Falcons defensive end Patrick Kerney.
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Can you explain the double standard? Granted, the hack writer from that hack website insinuates that the double standard is based on race ...

Except he's missing one small distinguishing fact ... the woman in the Kerney-home rape case is able to speak for herself, and evidently exonerated Kerney from responsibility.

If one of Vick's dogs (dead or aliver) would just stand up and do the same on behalf of Mr. Vick, I'm sure reporters, and the public at large, would be more than willing to presume his innocence in the matter.

These airheaded attempts at playing the race-card when it's clearly not applicable to a situation that makes it harder to properly assess situations where race may very well have played an important factor.

Really, you should have to have a license to use, and contribute to, the internet.
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Dog fighting or abuse of women? You tell me which issue is more important.
So since murders are rarer than rape murder is less important? That is interesting logic.

Its not a comparison issue. Making dogs kill each other bothers a lot of Americans so its illegal. The law enforcement agencies, who devote more resources to rape of course, still enforce the laws against dog fighting on occasion.
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It is an issue of race.

When a black man is involved with a white victim it is almost always about race.

Kobe Bryant, O.J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, etc.. etc..
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All not convicted. Duke Lacrosse players, Robert Blake, more whites charged with crimes, etc.

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It is an issue of race.

When a black man is involved with a white victim it is almost always about race.

Kobe Bryant, O.J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, etc.. etc..
As a commie liberal, that is one of the silliest statments ever made here. Its about a group of people, likely of various races, killing dogs in violation of US law.

You need to get over vick, who is not even indicted in this case and claims no responsibility for it.

Kobe Bryant was acused of an attack by a woman. As would be true of any such case there was an investigation (he admitted to commiting adultery not assault).

Michael Jackson is seen by people of all races as wacky and his problems are with children not people of other races (if you doubt this watch the Chris Rock routine on Michael sometimes). Its not a racial issue.

OJ was a case where race played an issue in assessment of the trial. Whether it played a role in the trial is subject to debate.

This case however, does not involve race, dogs have none. Vick is only involved in doing a lousy job of maintaining his property.
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