Pacman's suspension verdict

[BravesRule22]

Pacman gets THE YEAR

From Rotoworld :

The NFL has suspended Pacman Jones for the 2007 season under the league's new discipline policy. Bengals receiver Chris Henry will miss eight games.

Jones' repeated problems hurt, but his failure to disclose an arrest from last off-season probably did him in. The length of suspension will allow his pending case in Las Vegas to work itself out. One of the best young defenders in the NFL, Jones will attract plenty of interest if the Titans don't want him when he applies for reinstatement in a year. That's assuming Jones isn't in jail.

Chris Henry gets 8 games

The NFL suspended Bengals WR Chris Henry eight regular season games for conduct detrimental to the league.

This was expected, but it's still a blow to the Bengals offense. Henry is ready to be the best third receiver in the league if he keeps his nose clean. He's not worth drafting in most leagues, but pick him off the waiver wire a few weeks early. T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson's stats should improve in the first half with Henry out.

Thank you Roger !!!!

Way to make a statement, you did the right thing. Hopefully other players get the message now, that you will pay for actions if you mess up.

I think both suspensions are on point, anything less than a year for Pacman would have been a joke. And I was plesently surprised to see Henry got 8 games.

Well Done

[Hellwig]

Very happy to hear that both guys got this long. This hurts the Titans a lot more than Cincy because Henry isn't the best wide receiver on the Bengals but Pacman is the best CB on the Titans.

I have no sympathy for either guy; they used up there second... third..., fourth, etc chance.

[JoseA]

I don't actually like the decision, I would have only suspended Pac Man 8 games at the most, and Chris Henry 4......Pacman was never convicted of anything!!!

With that notion, RAY LEWIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED, he was believed to have murdered someone, although he wasn't convicted. I believe that was more severe than Pacman's troubles....

[all4phillysportsfan]

Suspensions are well deserved. Ban Pacman for life if he's convicted of anything he's charged with.

[BravesRule22]

Originally Posted by JoseA

I don't actually like the decision, I would have only suspended Pac Man 8 games at the most, and Chris Henry 4......Pacman was never convicted of anything!!!

With that notion, RAY LEWIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED, he was believed to have murdered someone, although he wasn't convicted. I believe that was more severe than Pacman's troubles....

The 1 thing you are forgetting when comparing Ray with Pacman is

Pacman has been investigated in TEN !!!!!!!!!! TEN police investigation since coming into the league

Ray Lewis had 1

Pacman deserved ATLEAST a year

[bedir than average]

Jose, past mistakes don't justify future ones. The fact is that PacMan Jones is damaging the reputation of the league and its players. Without addressing issues like PacMan Jones the league could wind up in the downward spiral that the NBA sees itself in.

[DiamondDave]

Originally Posted by JoseA

I don't actually like the decision, I would have only suspended Pac Man 8 games at the most, and Chris Henry 4......Pacman was never convicted of anything!!!

With that notion, RAY LEWIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED, he was believed to have murdered someone, although he wasn't convicted. I believe that was more severe than Pacman's troubles....

1) Conduct rules were not in place at that time
2) Lewis WAS convicted, only of pleading to an obstruction charge. If anyone actually reads the case, it is clear he was originally charged to add presure to testify against those in his party, he was never truly a good suspect. I believe he could have been suspended 4-8 games under the current rules though for his plea
3) Lewis has shown nothing but the best character ever since that incident. Not a hint of repeat suspicious activity. PacMan can't stay out of trouble for 7 days, let alone 7 years

[TITANFAN]

I'm glad to see this happen with Jones. Living here in Nashville, I hear about this on a daily basis. People are just plain ole fed up with this guy. I have a feeling we've seen the last of Pacman Jones. I don't think he'll be able to stay out of trouble for the year he'll be off. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see it happening.

[JoseA]

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you think a murder investigation is a lot worse than Pacman's so called 10 crimes.

Guess I am going to have to whip out an old example on you
What do you think is worse?
A guy who gets caught shoplifting, smokes marijuana, gets in small fights, speeds
Or a guy who is "rumored to have murdered someone", although he denies it, and it could be false

Ding Ding Ding!!!! Correct, its the so called murderer

I leave you on one final statement:
Pacman would be more likely to hurt himself than someone else, and he would be punished himself only. For goodness sakes he is a grown man, if he wants to continue during this stupid stuff let him. I NEVER said he shouldn't have been suspended. I said 8 games would be justified

[JoseA]

Originally Posted by bedir than average

Jose, past mistakes don't justify future ones. The fact is that PacMan Jones is damaging the reputation of the league and its players. Without addressing issues like PacMan Jones the league could wind up in the downward spiral that the NBA sees itself in.

So what you are saying is Pacman will never straighten out? Pacman deserves a chance like everyone else, did you say the same thing about Ray Lewis after his trial? Well, he turned out pretty well, and stayed out of trouble. How do you know Pacman hasn't changed now, well you don't Somone pulled a knife on him at a bowling alley recently and he just walked away.....I doubt this situation kills the NFL, it actually gives it news during a slow offseason if anything.

[BravesRule22]

Originally Posted by JoseA

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you think a murder investigation is a lot worse than Pacman's so called 10 crimes.

Guess I am going to have to whip out an old example on you
What do you think is worse?
A guy who gets caught shoplifting, smokes marijuana, gets in small fights, speeds
Or a guy who is "rumored to have murdered someone", although he denies it, and it could be false

Ding Ding Ding!!!! Correct, its the so called murderer

I leave you on one final statement:
Pacman would be more likely to hurt himself than someone else, and he would be punished himself only. For goodness sakes he is a grown man, if he wants to continue during this stupid stuff let him. I NEVER said he shouldn't have been suspended. I said 8 games would be justified

Are you aware of Pacman's rap sheet at all ? I asure you its far worse than shoplifting and speeding

Um......are you forgetting that in Pacmans recent incident a man is left paralyzed for life ?

Could and should be dead........he is just lucky the bullet wasnt a centimeter to the left or right

[JoseA]

1 Nightclub altercation
2 Jones was counseled by the police for verbal issues
3 Did not contact probation officer
4. Shouting at woman who stole his wallet
5. Spitting in woman's face
6. Punching fans who harrassed him
7. Slammed women's head on stage who took his money
8. Didn't shoot in nightclub shooting that paralyzed someone, no affiliation with them
9. Two more drug violations



As you can see none of those are THAT major, and he WAS NEVER CONVICTED of anything.....not 1 single one. You guys have to remember people are out to set celebritites' tempers off. Pacman probably just had a bad case, he is now starting to obey his demons.

Give the guy a chance, don't take away the only thing he loves to do: football.

That is like taking away a computer from a computer programmer.

[BravesRule22]

Originally Posted by JoseA

1 Nightclub altercation
2 Jones was counseled by the police for verbal issues
3 Did not contact probation officer
4. Shouting at woman who stole his wallet
5. Spitting in woman's face
6. Punching fans who harrassed him
7. Slammed women's head on stage who took his money
8. Didn't shoot in nightclub shooting that paralyzed someone, no affiliation with them
9. Two more drug violations



As you can see none of those are THAT major, and he WAS NEVER CONVICTED of anything.....not 1 single one. You guys have to remember people are out to set celebritites' tempers off. Pacman probably just had a bad case, he is now starting to obey his demons.

Give the guy a chance, don't take away the only thing he loves to do: football.

That is like taking away a computer from a computer programmer.

Those arent major ?

I consider assualt, pretty major, especially if its on a woman.....which is 1 of the lowest things you can do.

By the way the woman DIDNT steal his wallet...Pacman was DRUNK and accused her of doing so and the Police investigation showed she did nothing wrong

Give the Guy a chance are you serious ? HE HAS HAD 10 CHANCES..........All the guy does is get in trouble.......He has more chances than you or I would have gotten.

And to the shooting case at the night club, you are wrong......he was sign talking and COMING INTO THE CLUB with the person who was seen shooting the gun on the tape.

He DENIED knowing that person, because he doesnt want to go down for it. But there are witnesses along with tape evidence that SHOWS him with that person throughout the night

[JoseA]

Once again, I don't condone Pacman's actions....I think they are scum and dispecable.

Its just that he was never convicted on anything, I rest my case.
Do I think he should have been suspended?
Well yes, I do
Should it have been a whole season
No, I would have said 8 games

Then after the meeting if he does another major violation then I would ban him for the game for good. Everyone deserves a 2nd, and sometimes an 11th chance

The problem is the NFL address this issue sort of late, and Pacman got up to his antics. Hopefully he straightens out after the meeting....

That is all I am saying, I am not a fan of Pacman and never will be....

[BravesRule22]

Never convicted ? hes been arrested 5 times

As of March 2007, Jones has been arrested five times and questioned by police ten times since he was drafted by the Titans in 2005.

Give me a break.....the guy is a JOKE, he doesnt deserves anymore chances

No-one deserves 11 chances....the guy has been a problem child his whole life, and if you seriously think he is going to change then I dont know what to say....

He hasnt been convicted in this strip-club case because the investigation is STILL ON GOING.

No-One has been charged with anything yet