Matt Schaub to Houston

BravesRule22 · March 21st, 2007, 10:36 AM

for what appears to be a 2nd rounder, not confirmed yet.

From the Houston Cronicle :

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The Texans are reportedly close to a deal for Atlanta QB Matt Schaub.

A deal 'could be imminent', according to the Houston Chronicle's venerable John McClain. Schaub, a restricted free agent, would probably sign a new deal with Houston and compete with Sage Rosenfels for the team's starting job. It would free up Houston to deal David Carr. Mar. 21 - 1:20 pm et

David Carr to Tampa Baby

I like this deal alot for Houston, Schaub to Johnson could be deadly to the rest of the league. Schaub still has to prove himself but he appears to have all the talent to do well in this league.

Hellwig · March 21st, 2007, 11:31 AM

Fox is reporting a little differently...

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The Falcons are on the verge of agreeing to trade quarterback Matt Schaub to the Texans in exchange for a swapping of first-rounders this year, a second-round pick in this year's draft and a second-round pick in the 2008 draft.

FOX

The Falcons are getting a steal if this version is true. Schaub hasn't proven anything in the NFL yet and even if he is a good QB for Houston that is a lot for Houston to give up for him.

DiamondDave · March 21st, 2007, 11:36 AM

This would indeed be a ripoff of Houston if all those picks would be involved..... I know they believe they will get some value trading Carr somewhere, but not THAT kind of value.... last I heard is it is probable to only get a 2nd round pick or so for Carr

BravesRule22 · March 21st, 2007, 12:16 PM

Well its official & Fox is right..

Basically its just 2 's for Schuab, I know they switched 1's but I dont consider going from 8-10 a huge deal.....but I guess some people do, after the top 5 in this draft I think the next 5-7 players are all in the same class

JoseA · March 21st, 2007, 12:34 PM

What a ripoff.....

Why not stick with Carr, he had such a high completion percentage......Just give the guy a solid line and he may succeed.

Dumb move for Houston considering they are in the rebuilding stage and over the next season will lose 2 second round picks. This wont help out a struggling franchise like them, it will only hold them back

ganja · March 21st, 2007, 01:55 PM

Atlanta made off in this deal man. Schaub hasn't even proven anything yet. And what's to say he's gunna be any good in Houston. I would have just stuck with Carr, he played pretty well last year and would play better if Houston just worked on improving their offensive line. Oh well, maybe they can squeeze a third rounder or something for Carr from someone like Oakland. Then they could just draft Calvin Johnson and you've already got a really talented offense.

BravesRule22 · March 21st, 2007, 02:20 PM

You know, thats not a bad idea with Carr to Oakland......

They had a top 5 D last year in Oakland and adding CJ to Moss and Carr would no doubt allow Lamont Jordan to run wild with teams dropping everyone back in coverage for those 2

ganja · March 21st, 2007, 02:43 PM

Then grab a some offensive line help in the later rounds and they're good to go. Haha easier said than done.

all4phillysportsfan · March 21st, 2007, 06:17 PM

Great deal for Atlanta. I wonder who Houston is gonna target now since they have a QB.

aCutb · March 21st, 2007, 06:28 PM

Great deal for Atlanta is right. I like Schaub as a QB but we gave too much for him. I like the deal, but the 2nd round picks will be missed. Maybe David Carr can get more picks for us.

With the 10th pick I expect the Texans to draft Reggie Nelson, Levi Brown, Pat Willis, Darrelle Revis, Robert Meachem, or trade down.

Hellwig · March 21st, 2007, 08:41 PM

Atlanta won this big time and not just by getting what they did in the draft picks but it also appears they have given us an answer on Michael Vick’s future with the team as the starting QB. As of right now there is no viable back-up option behind him. With the addition of Joe Horn and now a chance to draft another wide-out before the third round and they are looking pretty good.

ganja · March 22nd, 2007, 11:23 AM

Here's a trade I'd like to see. Carr and the #10 pick and a later round pick to Oakland for the #1 pick. Houston can take Calvin Johnson and suddenly their offense is scary.

Imagine if they'd taken Bush last year...

aCutb · March 22nd, 2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ganja

Here's a trade I'd like to see. Carr and the #10 pick and a later round pick to Oakland for the #1 pick. Houston can take Calvin Johnson and suddenly their offense is scary.

Imagine if they'd taken Bush last year...

And take a running back that wouldn't succeed in our system?

BMW · March 22nd, 2007, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aCutb

And take a running back that wouldn't succeed in our system?

What sort of messed up system could a team use that Reggie Bush wouldn't succeed? The only one that comes to mind is if you threw the ball 80 times a game. Isn't Gary Kubiak in Houston? That would mean you zone block, which Reggie Bush is phenomenal for. He can get to the outside and force the defense to overpursue, and cut back on a dime and break tackles and make people miss coming back across the field. Reggie Bush is the ideal RB for a zone blocking team, that's why you got Ahman Green over Ron Dayne, because you need to be fast and have cutback ability.

BravesRule22 · March 22nd, 2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ganja

Here's a trade I'd like to see. Carr and the #10 pick and a later round pick to Oakland for the #1 pick. Houston can take Calvin Johnson and suddenly their offense is scary.

Imagine if they'd taken Bush last year...

There is no chance that trade happens

The #1 pick is worth 3000 points and the 10th pick is worth 1200 ( I believe ) give or take a 100.

So you would have to make up 1600 points and a later round pick wouldnt cut it, even with Carr. A player like Carr is worth around 400 -500 points and you are still 1000 points short so you would have to throw in a couple of 2's and a 3 to get it done.

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BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	You know, thats not a bad idea with Carr to Oakland...... They had a top 5 D last year in Oakland and adding CJ to Moss and Carr would no doubt allow Lamont Jordan to run wild with teams dropping everyone back in coverage for those 2 __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

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ganja Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 194	Atlanta made off in this deal man. Schaub hasn't even proven anything yet. And what's to say he's gunna be any good in Houston. I would have just stuck with Carr, he played pretty well last year and would play better if Houston just worked on improving their offensive line. Oh well, maybe they can squeeze a third rounder or something for Carr from someone like Oakland. Then they could just draft Calvin Johnson and you've already got a really talented offense.

March 21st, 2007, 02:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
ganja Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 194	Then grab a some offensive line help in the later rounds and they're good to go. Haha easier said than done.

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Hellwig Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,708	Atlanta won this big time and not just by getting what they did in the draft picks but it also appears they have given us an answer on Michael Vick’s future with the team as the starting QB. As of right now there is no viable back-up option behind him. With the addition of Joe Horn and now a chance to draft another wide-out before the third round and they are looking pretty good.

March 22nd, 2007, 11:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
ganja Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 194	Here's a trade I'd like to see. Carr and the #10 pick and a later round pick to Oakland for the #1 pick. Houston can take Calvin Johnson and suddenly their offense is scary. Imagine if they'd taken Bush last year...