Rivers Manning Trade

Dada · 11-21-2006, 01:27 AM

Since I brought this issue up on another post, let's talk about it.

What do you guys think?

Personally, I think it may be too early to tell. But if I were to judge *today* I would give the edge to Rivers and San Diego.

Rivers has looked very impressive. His demeanor is what impresses me the most. These last couple game, where he fell behind big and still managed to come back, was impressive. If he keeps this up, he could turn out to be one of the best QB's in the league (well, he might already be). And with LT and Merriman, could we talk Superbowl?

Gbomb · 11-21-2006, 02:05 AM

River's looks much better so far this season, but Rivers has only played well for ten or so games this year, so it is still early for him, plus you got to factor in the different playing environments. How would rivers have handled starting games in his first year and starting the entire season in his second?

This reminds me of another trade that involved the chargers as well. Remember the one that basically sent Vick to Atlanta and LT to San Diego? Chargers seem to be pretty good at tradeing, maybe other teams should take notice.

Sportycliche · 11-21-2006, 08:22 AM

The worse part of the trade was that the Chargers screwed the Giants...Eli Manning was not going to play for the Chargers regardless of what happened, so you would think the Giants (or any other team) would have the bargaining power to offer lets say a swap of 1st rounders and a 5th round pick....not a swap of 1st rounders, plus a 3rd rounder and the following year 1st rounder.

GhostofVDC · 11-21-2006, 10:33 AM

The Chargers ended up with Merriman and Kaeding as part of the trade as well. It's a complete and utter slam dunk for the Chargers as winner of that trade.

unreal654 · 11-21-2006, 02:53 PM

there really is NO question that the chargers got the better end of the deal. A Giants future first round pick to jump up only a few spots? Sounded like a bad trade from the beginning. Even if Eli turns out to be pretty good, I still think the Chargers got the better end.

Hellwig · 11-21-2006, 03:27 PM

Chargers I think got the better end of the deal but I think it's too early to tell who is the better QB; Manning or Rivers. Rivers is having the better season but how much of that is directly related to playing with LT?

Gbomb · 11-21-2006, 05:20 PM

People like to bring up the fact that Rivers plays with LT and Gates, but IMO Eli is surrounded by a lot more weapons. Shockey is just as good as Gates. Plax is probably better than any Chargers WR (when he is on anyways) and Tiki is no slouch at RB.

GhostofVDC · 11-22-2006, 12:35 AM

Heck he isn't even using Gates........ (bitterness from my fantasy football team)

kfkorn · 11-23-2006, 12:39 PM

I like this trade more for the Chargers then I do the Giants. Both teams have ended up with quality quarterbacks, but the Chargers got more then just a quality quarterback. I do not think there is much of a question right now as to who got the better of this trade.

brewinsfan · 11-23-2006, 02:41 PM

i think the Chargers got the best of the Giants in the trade-the giants gave up a ton to get manning.

now as for who has a better supporting cast...i'll go with Eli, Rivers may have the better overall weapon in LT, and a great TE in gates, but Manning has a great RB as well, a great TE, and two good recievers.

TheAJx · 11-24-2006, 07:38 PM

Chragers definetely have the superior line however. And that's what matter most.

BucsFan4Ever · 11-28-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostofVDC

The Chargers ended up with Merriman and Kaeding as part of the trade as well. It's a complete and utter slam dunk for the Chargers as winner of that trade.

absolutely

DiamondDave · 11-28-2006, 07:21 PM

I could not agree more

11-21-2006, 01:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dada Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 125	Rivers Manning Trade Since I brought this issue up on another post, let's talk about it. What do you guys think? Personally, I think it may be too early to tell. But if I were to judge today I would give the edge to Rivers and San Diego. Rivers has looked very impressive. His demeanor is what impresses me the most. These last couple game, where he fell behind big and still managed to come back, was impressive. If he keeps this up, he could turn out to be one of the best QB's in the league (well, he might already be). And with LT and Merriman, could we talk Superbowl?

11-23-2006, 02:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
brewinsfan Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Regina Posts: 45	i think the Chargers got the best of the Giants in the trade-the giants gave up a ton to get manning. now as for who has a better supporting cast...i'll go with Eli, Rivers may have the better overall weapon in LT, and a great TE in gates, but Manning has a great RB as well, a great TE, and two good recievers. __________________ ------------------------------- I cheer for the Bruins, Roughriders, and Browns, yup that's right i'm a satomasicust.

11-21-2006, 02:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gbomb Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: California Posts: 67	River's looks much better so far this season, but Rivers has only played well for ten or so games this year, so it is still early for him, plus you got to factor in the different playing environments. How would rivers have handled starting games in his first year and starting the entire season in his second? This reminds me of another trade that involved the chargers as well. Remember the one that basically sent Vick to Atlanta and LT to San Diego? Chargers seem to be pretty good at tradeing, maybe other teams should take notice.

11-21-2006, 08:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sportycliche Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 143	The worse part of the trade was that the Chargers screwed the Giants...Eli Manning was not going to play for the Chargers regardless of what happened, so you would think the Giants (or any other team) would have the bargaining power to offer lets say a swap of 1st rounders and a 5th round pick....not a swap of 1st rounders, plus a 3rd rounder and the following year 1st rounder.

11-21-2006, 10:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
GhostofVDC New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5	The Chargers ended up with Merriman and Kaeding as part of the trade as well. It's a complete and utter slam dunk for the Chargers as winner of that trade.

11-21-2006, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 332	there really is NO question that the chargers got the better end of the deal. A Giants future first round pick to jump up only a few spots? Sounded like a bad trade from the beginning. Even if Eli turns out to be pretty good, I still think the Chargers got the better end.

11-21-2006, 03:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hellwig Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,708	Chargers I think got the better end of the deal but I think it's too early to tell who is the better QB; Manning or Rivers. Rivers is having the better season but how much of that is directly related to playing with LT?

11-21-2006, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gbomb Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: California Posts: 67	People like to bring up the fact that Rivers plays with LT and Gates, but IMO Eli is surrounded by a lot more weapons. Shockey is just as good as Gates. Plax is probably better than any Chargers WR (when he is on anyways) and Tiki is no slouch at RB.

11-22-2006, 12:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
GhostofVDC New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5	Heck he isn't even using Gates........ (bitterness from my fantasy football team)

11-23-2006, 12:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
kfkorn Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 305	I like this trade more for the Chargers then I do the Giants. Both teams have ended up with quality quarterbacks, but the Chargers got more then just a quality quarterback. I do not think there is much of a question right now as to who got the better of this trade.

11-24-2006, 07:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
TheAJx Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 871	Chragers definetely have the superior line however. And that's what matter most.

11-28-2006, 07:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	I could not agree more