Team USA basketball sucks

djwhokid · 07-18-2007, 02:34 AM

Another third place finish?

Expect Brazil to take the Gold. Little Leandro, Nene, Anderson Varejao, and Tiago are going to do some major damage.

Argentina gets the silver, U.S. might have a shot at the bronze.

Expected participants:
• Kobe Bryant
• LeBron James
• Carmelo Anthony
• Dwight Howard
• Chris Bosh
• Shane Battier
• Kirk Hinrich
• Chauncey Billups
• Amare Stoudemire
• Michael Redd
• Kevin Durant
• Jason Kidd
• Mike Miller
• Tyson Chandler
• Tayshaun Prince
• J.J. Redick
• Deron Williams

BravesRule22 · 07-18-2007, 09:51 AM

I totally disagree here, I think they did a good job picking the team this time around.

They got the obvious stars like they usually do in Kobe, Bron, Kidd, Melo and the like but then they went for specialst guys and guys that can actually shoot and make a 3 point shot ( which is key in international play )

Guys like Hinrich, Redd, JJ, Miller are all going to play huge roles and need too if the USA wants to win gold and establish itself again.

Battier and Prince were also good picks for the D and they should also improve the team alot, guys you actually play D were not found on the USA team last time around.

unreal654 · 07-18-2007, 10:30 AM

I don't understand why you would make a statement like "team USA sucks" and not explain yourself. Brazil has a good team, but that doesn't prove that team USA sucks.

I agree with Bravesrule. Team USA has an excellent balance between stars and specialists. As long as Kobe and Lebron can learn to work together and establish some chemistry, I think USA has a legitimate shot at the gold.

bedir than average · 07-18-2007, 10:33 AM

Kobe's the best player in the world, how can the USA lose?

unreal654 · 07-18-2007, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedir than average

Kobe's the best player in the world, how can the USA lose?

the same way the Lakers lost.

dlb · 07-18-2007, 04:11 PM

Team USA has a coaching problem. The guy in charge won't get these players to win.

BravesRule22 · 07-19-2007, 01:38 PM

Coach K is a problem ?

Kobe LOVES the man, how is he a problem ?

dlb · 07-19-2007, 05:04 PM

The game has passed him by. Plus, his coaching style can only work with young kids who are pretty much his prisoners.

BravesRule22 · 07-19-2007, 06:43 PM

Then why does Kobe love him & basically begged him to take the Laker job ?

How has the game passed him by ?

djwhokid · 07-19-2007, 07:31 PM

Here is the sad thing:

Team USA might not even qualify for the Olympics:

Could basketball's Team USA really miss the Beijing Olympics? Stranger things have happened - Sportingo

dlb · 07-19-2007, 08:50 PM

I have no idea why Kobe loves him. Maybe he pines for the college days he never had.

Krzyzewski's entire coaching strategy is built around doing a few things very well and playing with maximum aggressiveness and emotion. That works for young men who are away from home for the first time and can form a military-like unit. For a bunch of seasoned stars, it's completely worthless.

The game has passed Krzyzewski by in that the better teams can stop the few things he chooses to do well. He needs more tricks in his bag.

Oh, yeah; Kobe may also love Krzyzewski because he can't coach big men. He's never had a successful classic post player at Duke.

BravesRule22 · 07-19-2007, 10:27 PM

Elton Brand ? Carlos Boozer ? Just to name 2 recent ones

dlb · 07-20-2007, 11:32 AM

Brand was only with Krzyzewski for a year (maybe two), and he didn't develop his post skills at Duke. That took a couple of years after he went pro. Boozer also developed in his post-K years. You can pretty much count on a post player from Duke not being ready for the pros, and the longer he's been with Krzyzewski, the more seasoning he'll need.

BravesRule22 · 07-20-2007, 04:08 PM

Boozer avg 13 points and 6 rebounds his 1st 2 years at Duke which is nothing special but in his JR year he came back with 18 points and 9 rebounds a game, I think that you can see he developed nicely over the 3 years and in his final year before leaving put up a big season.

Brand was indeed @ Duke for only 2 years and did nothing specil his 1st year, same as Boozer basically 13 and 7. But again the next year he came back and dominated inside 18 points and 10 rebounds per game.

As for not beind ready for the NBA, in Boozers 1st season in the NBA he avg'd 10 points and 8 rebounds a game, im sorry but thats good for a 2nd round rookie draft pick.

Elton Brands rookie season all he did was avg 20 points and 10 rebounds a game..not too bad for a bad post player.

dlb · 07-20-2007, 04:43 PM

Brand got out early, before K had a chance to ruin him.

07-18-2007, 09:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	I totally disagree here, I think they did a good job picking the team this time around. They got the obvious stars like they usually do in Kobe, Bron, Kidd, Melo and the like but then they went for specialst guys and guys that can actually shoot and make a 3 point shot ( which is key in international play ) Guys like Hinrich, Redd, JJ, Miller are all going to play huge roles and need too if the USA wants to win gold and establish itself again. Battier and Prince were also good picks for the D and they should also improve the team alot, guys you actually play D were not found on the USA team last time around. __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

07-18-2007, 10:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	Kobe's the best player in the world, how can the USA lose? __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

07-19-2007, 01:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	Coach K is a problem ? Kobe LOVES the man, how is he a problem ? __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

07-19-2007, 06:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	Then why does Kobe love him & basically begged him to take the Laker job ? How has the game passed him by ? __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

07-19-2007, 10:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	Elton Brand ? Carlos Boozer ? Just to name 2 recent ones __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

07-18-2007, 10:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 325	I don't understand why you would make a statement like "team USA sucks" and not explain yourself. Brazil has a good team, but that doesn't prove that team USA sucks. I agree with Bravesrule. Team USA has an excellent balance between stars and specialists. As long as Kobe and Lebron can learn to work together and establish some chemistry, I think USA has a legitimate shot at the gold.

07-18-2007, 04:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
dlb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,250	Team USA has a coaching problem. The guy in charge won't get these players to win.

07-19-2007, 05:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
dlb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,250	The game has passed him by. Plus, his coaching style can only work with young kids who are pretty much his prisoners.

07-19-2007, 08:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
dlb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,250	I have no idea why Kobe loves him. Maybe he pines for the college days he never had. Krzyzewski's entire coaching strategy is built around doing a few things very well and playing with maximum aggressiveness and emotion. That works for young men who are away from home for the first time and can form a military-like unit. For a bunch of seasoned stars, it's completely worthless. The game has passed Krzyzewski by in that the better teams can stop the few things he chooses to do well. He needs more tricks in his bag. Oh, yeah; Kobe may also love Krzyzewski because he can't coach big men. He's never had a successful classic post player at Duke.

07-20-2007, 11:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
dlb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,250	Brand was only with Krzyzewski for a year (maybe two), and he didn't develop his post skills at Duke. That took a couple of years after he went pro. Boozer also developed in his post-K years. You can pretty much count on a post player from Duke not being ready for the pros, and the longer he's been with Krzyzewski, the more seasoning he'll need.

07-20-2007, 04:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	Boozer avg 13 points and 6 rebounds his 1st 2 years at Duke which is nothing special but in his JR year he came back with 18 points and 9 rebounds a game, I think that you can see he developed nicely over the 3 years and in his final year before leaving put up a big season. Brand was indeed @ Duke for only 2 years and did nothing specil his 1st year, same as Boozer basically 13 and 7. But again the next year he came back and dominated inside 18 points and 10 rebounds per game. As for not beind ready for the NBA, in Boozers 1st season in the NBA he avg'd 10 points and 8 rebounds a game, im sorry but thats good for a 2nd round rookie draft pick. Elton Brands rookie season all he did was avg 20 points and 10 rebounds a game..not too bad for a bad post player. __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

07-20-2007, 04:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
dlb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,250	Brand got out early, before K had a chance to ruin him.