Ideal starting rotation? - Page 2

all4phillysportsfan · February 7th, 2007, 09:55 PM

we have enough threads started about starting pitchers.

77smbg9177 · February 7th, 2007, 10:00 PM

i know that why i wont to know who everyone thinks the top 5 in baseball are right now

Sawman · February 7th, 2007, 11:52 PM

Then why not bring it up in the "Best 1-2 punch" thread you already started? I think it's great that you want to post, but please try to keep the area clean by combining some of your topics. And, Dontrelle Willis has done nothing to show that he's one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball. He has had two "good' years surrounding one "great" year. He has a very long way to go before being considered elite. He wasn't even in the top 10 in the National League last year in ERA.

unreal654 · February 8th, 2007, 01:08 PM

it's really not that big of a deal...

jtul22 · February 8th, 2007, 02:45 PM

that is true he is not in the top five in pitching. he had agood year not a great year.my top five are 1.johan santana 2.carlos zambrano 3.roy oswalt 4.chris carpenter 5.justin verlander

77smbg9177 · February 8th, 2007, 04:16 PM

ok then same could be said about Verlander a bit he is still young and he had a great year everything we are saying about him now we said about D-train as well so i think both would end up being great excelent pitchers and have great careers.

The only thing i don't like about D-train is his pitching windup to me thats an injury waiting to happen

all4phillysportsfan · February 8th, 2007, 05:14 PM

Verlander is gonna be a great pitcher. I agree with Sawman, combine some of the topics, instead of having 2 threads that are almost the same.

77smbg9177 · February 8th, 2007, 05:21 PM

ok in the futrue i will combine them but all4phillysportsfan who would be your top five pitcehrs in MLB right now

ofhdhdy · February 10th, 2007, 01:22 PM

1. Roy Halladay
2. Johan Santana
3. Brad Penny
4. Chris Carpenter
5. Carlos Zambrano

bedir than average · February 10th, 2007, 01:29 PM

Santana
Halladay
Zambrano
Kazmir
Felix

TheDreadedFoosa · February 10th, 2007, 01:31 PM

1. Johan
2. Carpenter
3. Oswalt
4. Zito
5. C. Zambrano

bedir than average · February 10th, 2007, 01:34 PM

Oswalt probably should have made my list, and I fully expect though at the end of this season that Matsuzaka will be in everyone's top five and that Felix and Kazmir will both be in the top ten.

77smbg9177 · February 11th, 2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bedir than average

Oswalt probably should have made my list, and I fully expect though at the end of this season that Matsuzaka will be in everyone's top five and that Felix and Kazmir will both be in the top ten.

I think everyone is over rating Matsuzaka to much and as for Felix and Kazmir I yhink Kazmir is already in the top 10 if not then right there but Felix mayber in the top 20 not 10 look at all the other good pitchers still around. Its going to be mainly up to how he and everyone else does this year

bedir than average · February 11th, 2007, 06:01 PM

How is a guy that has a record of performance greater than Hideo Nomo in Japan while throwing a larger variety of pitches for strikes and a better fastball while being younger getting overrated?

77smbg9177 · February 11th, 2007, 06:09 PM

He is coming here and EVERYONE is expecting him to be an ace right of the back and be one of the best pitchers in baseball right off the back did you watch the USA vs Japan series he didn't do that great (David Wright Homerun off him was pretty nice hit). So i think once he gets use to the MLB and settles in he will do great but not after this year give him at least 2 years or so

February 7th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
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February 7th, 2007, 10:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	i know that why i wont to know who everyone thinks the top 5 in baseball are right now __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 8th, 2007, 04:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	ok then same could be said about Verlander a bit he is still young and he had a great year everything we are saying about him now we said about D-train as well so i think both would end up being great excelent pitchers and have great careers. The only thing i don't like about D-train is his pitching windup to me thats an injury waiting to happen __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 8th, 2007, 05:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	Verlander is gonna be a great pitcher. I agree with Sawman, combine some of the topics, instead of having 2 threads that are almost the same. __________________ Philly Sports: The worst drought in America.

February 8th, 2007, 05:21 PM	#23 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	ok in the futrue i will combine them but all4phillysportsfan who would be your top five pitcehrs in MLB right now __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 7th, 2007, 11:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
Sawman Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Riverside, Ca. Posts: 259	Then why not bring it up in the "Best 1-2 punch" thread you already started? I think it's great that you want to post, but please try to keep the area clean by combining some of your topics. And, Dontrelle Willis has done nothing to show that he's one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball. He has had two "good' years surrounding one "great" year. He has a very long way to go before being considered elite. He wasn't even in the top 10 in the National League last year in ERA.

February 8th, 2007, 01:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 332	it's really not that big of a deal...

February 8th, 2007, 02:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
jtul22 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 32	that is true he is not in the top five in pitching. he had agood year not a great year.my top five are 1.johan santana 2.carlos zambrano 3.roy oswalt 4.chris carpenter 5.justin verlander

February 10th, 2007, 01:22 PM	#24 (permalink)
ofhdhdy Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 378	1. Roy Halladay 2. Johan Santana 3. Brad Penny 4. Chris Carpenter 5. Carlos Zambrano

February 10th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Santana Halladay Zambrano Kazmir Felix __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 10th, 2007, 01:31 PM	#26 (permalink)
TheDreadedFoosa Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 155	1. Johan 2. Carpenter 3. Oswalt 4. Zito 5. C. Zambrano

February 10th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#27 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Oswalt probably should have made my list, and I fully expect though at the end of this season that Matsuzaka will be in everyone's top five and that Felix and Kazmir will both be in the top ten. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 11th, 2007, 06:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	How is a guy that has a record of performance greater than Hideo Nomo in Japan while throwing a larger variety of pitches for strikes and a better fastball while being younger getting overrated? __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 11th, 2007, 06:09 PM	#30 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	He is coming here and EVERYONE is expecting him to be an ace right of the back and be one of the best pitchers in baseball right off the back did you watch the USA vs Japan series he didn't do that great (David Wright Homerun off him was pretty nice hit). So i think once he gets use to the MLB and settles in he will do great but not after this year give him at least 2 years or so __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true