Staying with one team - Page 2

Rice4HoF · February 1st, 2007, 10:11 PM

Jim Rice will join this list of one team Hall of Fame members, when he gets elected next year

LongtimeBravesFan · February 2nd, 2007, 05:30 AM

I would still call Smoltz and Bagwell one team players since they were traded as minor leaguers and had zero choice in the move.

If Ichiro stays in Seattle I'd still put an asterisk by his name on the one team list since he played several years in Japan.

all4phillysportsfan · February 2nd, 2007, 06:34 AM

Yeah that's true. John Smoltz and Bagwell were involved in the worst trades in the last 20 years.

77smbg9177 · February 2nd, 2007, 01:59 PM

that is true those are two very bad trades but no one knew that they would turn out to be this good so everyone thouht it was a great trade at the time

so you can't count Bagwell or smoltz as 1 team players

all4phillysportsfan · February 5th, 2007, 08:25 PM

I think you can because Smoltz will always be known as a Brave, and Bagwell as an Astro.

RickJay · February 6th, 2007, 06:47 AM

Lest we forget, trading Smoltz resulted in the Tigers winning the 1987 division title; they got Doyle Alexander, who went 9-0 and led them past the Blue Jays. Had they kept Smoltz they would have lost that division title and probably wouldn't have won any other ones, either, even with Smoltz; they were never really close to contention after that, until this year. So it wasn't as bad a trade as people say.

all4phillysportsfan · February 6th, 2007, 08:18 AM

Well yeah I agree. Smoltz wasn't a huge prospect back then either if i remember correctly.

77smbg9177 · February 7th, 2007, 10:12 AM

no he wasn't he was just another player trying to make it to the big leagues

77smbg9177 · February 7th, 2007, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all4phillysportsfan

I think you can because Smoltz will always be known as a Brave, and Bagwell as an Astro.

This is true they will be but that doesn't make them 1 team players that same reason Ichrio could never be so as well

all4phillysportsfan · February 7th, 2007, 06:56 PM

If Ichiro is here long enough and gets into the HOF and stays with Seattle, we won't remember what he did in Japan.

77smbg9177 · February 7th, 2007, 07:59 PM

That is true but it still wont make him a one team player no matter what he does even though he will be off the M's after this year if they don't do good this season

bedir than average · February 7th, 2007, 08:02 PM

Then no player is a one team player. Every player played on a team before they played in the majors.

77smbg9177 · February 7th, 2007, 08:04 PM

one team means that you were drafted for that team and was never traded or on another team from then on like if the mets drafted you then you were to stay with them all during minors and MLB career

bedir than average · February 7th, 2007, 08:06 PM

Was Jackie Robinson a one team player?

77smbg9177 · February 7th, 2007, 08:08 PM

um that hard to tell i would say no only because he played for the negro league then the mlb that like Ichiro playing for Japan then coming to Mlb so that hard to tell but i think i might have to say no

February 2nd, 2007, 06:34 AM	#18 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	Yeah that's true. John Smoltz and Bagwell were involved in the worst trades in the last 20 years. __________________ Philly Sports: The worst drought in America.

February 2nd, 2007, 01:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	that is true those are two very bad trades but no one knew that they would turn out to be this good so everyone thouht it was a great trade at the time so you can't count Bagwell or smoltz as 1 team players __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 5th, 2007, 08:25 PM	#20 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	I think you can because Smoltz will always be known as a Brave, and Bagwell as an Astro. __________________ Philly Sports: The worst drought in America.

February 6th, 2007, 08:18 AM	#22 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	Well yeah I agree. Smoltz wasn't a huge prospect back then either if i remember correctly. __________________ Philly Sports: The worst drought in America.

February 7th, 2007, 10:12 AM	#23 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	no he wasn't he was just another player trying to make it to the big leagues __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 1st, 2007, 10:11 PM	#16 (permalink)
Rice4HoF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 60	Jim Rice will join this list of one team Hall of Fame members, when he gets elected next year

February 2nd, 2007, 05:30 AM	#17 (permalink)
LongtimeBravesFan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,655	I would still call Smoltz and Bagwell one team players since they were traded as minor leaguers and had zero choice in the move. If Ichiro stays in Seattle I'd still put an asterisk by his name on the one team list since he played several years in Japan.

February 6th, 2007, 06:47 AM	#21 (permalink)
RickJay Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 50	Lest we forget, trading Smoltz resulted in the Tigers winning the 1987 division title; they got Doyle Alexander, who went 9-0 and led them past the Blue Jays. Had they kept Smoltz they would have lost that division title and probably wouldn't have won any other ones, either, even with Smoltz; they were never really close to contention after that, until this year. So it wasn't as bad a trade as people say.

February 7th, 2007, 06:56 PM	#25 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	If Ichiro is here long enough and gets into the HOF and stays with Seattle, we won't remember what he did in Japan. __________________ Philly Sports: The worst drought in America.

February 7th, 2007, 07:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	That is true but it still wont make him a one team player no matter what he does even though he will be off the M's after this year if they don't do good this season __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 7th, 2007, 08:02 PM	#27 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Then no player is a one team player. Every player played on a team before they played in the majors. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 7th, 2007, 08:04 PM	#28 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	one team means that you were drafted for that team and was never traded or on another team from then on like if the mets drafted you then you were to stay with them all during minors and MLB career __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true

February 7th, 2007, 08:06 PM	#29 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Was Jackie Robinson a one team player? __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 7th, 2007, 08:08 PM	#30 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	um that hard to tell i would say no only because he played for the negro league then the mlb that like Ichiro playing for Japan then coming to Mlb so that hard to tell but i think i might have to say no __________________ METS 07 WS CHAMPS i like how that just rolls of the tongue cant wait until that comes true