Trade possibles from Rotowold

[punxsy]

Link: rotoworld.com

"Winter Meetings" by M. Pouliat.

These are some of his predicted combos:

Figgins + DMac for Joe Crede

or

Figgins and Kotchman for Adam LaRoche


Also: Carrasco and Reggie Willits for Morgan Ensberg

The writer predicts one of these will happen.

Interesting in that no Angels starters are involved. Which combo do YOU like?

[aCutb]

I have a question being an Astro fan. How good is Carrasco and Willits? Are they good enough for Ensberg? Are they underacheivers or overacheivers?

Thank you in advance.

[Sawman]

That article also mentions the Angels still possibly having interest in Vernon Wells.

Vernon Wells - If Alfonso Soriano is worth $138 million, Wells should receive a deal in excess of $150 million when he becomes a free agent next winter. He'll be two years younger than Soriano when he hit the market, and he has much more value on defense. Since the Blue Jays aren't likely to pay the price, Wells could be moved this winter. Texas is the top destination on everyone's mind, but because there's a good chance the Rangers can sign him as a free agent, it wouldn't make much sense to give up a king's ransom now. The White Sox should also be very interested, and the Angels might not rule him out even after overpaying for Gary Matthews Jr.


Possibility: To Angels for Erick Aybar, Jeff Mathis and RHP Stephen Marek

I seriously doubt the Angels are going to bring in another OFer.

Link

[Sawman]

I have a question being an Astro fan. How good is Carrasco and Willits? Are they good enough for Ensberg? Are they underacheivers or overacheivers?

Carrasco is a 37 year old who has a career ERA+ of 115. Although inconsistent, he showed this past season why the Angels put so much faith in him last year. He pitched 100 innings for the first time in his career and looks like a solid long reliever, who can still spot start once in awhile. He acheived slightly better than his career averages this past season.

Figgins, while not the world-beater many thought him to be after his 2004-2005 seasons, is the prototypical super-utility guy. He's not going to "wow" you with his defensive skills, but he's at least adequate at 2B, CF, 3B, and some SS. For a lead-off guy, he doesn't get on base as often as he should, but when he does, he's got some of the best speed in baseball. He probably underachieved a little in 2006, and his 2004-2005 numbers are probably what you should expect him to return to.

[Laloosh]

Originally Posted by punxsy

Link: rotoworld.com

"Winter Meetings" by M. Pouliat.

These are some of his predicted combos:

Figgins + DMac for Joe Crede

I've heard that the ChiSox have no interest in trading Crede. And I'd rather take our chances with DMac.

or

Originally Posted by punxsy

Figgins and Kotchman for Adam LaRoche

I like Kotchman a lot and would hate to see him go. If he's back to 100%, I don't think this is a good move.

Originally Posted by punxsy

Also: Carrasco and Reggie Willits for Morgan Ensberg

I would make this trade, although that leaves DMac as the odd-man out. And Ensberg is due for a good year. He seems to be one of those "every other year guys" when you look at his career stats.

[RTT]

Originally Posted by aCutb

I have a question being an Astro fan. How good is Carrasco and Willits? Are they good enough for Ensberg? Are they underacheivers or overacheivers?

Thank you in advance.

On paper, the Angels win by far in this trade but Willits is uber-fast and can hit the ball well. Carrasco in past years wasn't a good pitcher by any means but as a reliever, he'd help you guys out so much.

[Rankal]

Rockies fan here.

What do you guys make of the possible Helton for Figgins, Kotchman, and Aybar trade?

[punxsy]

Originally Posted by Rankal

Rockies fan here.

What do you guys make of the possible Helton for Figgins, Kotchman, and Aybar trade?

It is dead - in -the- water.

Rockies are forced to keep him with that huge contract with five years remaining.

[Sawman]

I agree that it's probably dead. I like Todd Helton, a lot. But, the fact is, he's in a serious decline. Now, he could pull a Jim Thome and rebound suddenly back to his previous level, but the Rockies would have to pay half the $90 million before I'd even consider that deal.

[anangel]

Helton would have been a sweet deal years ago not so much anymore. I would almost bet money the team we have now is what we hit the season with.

[Goose]

A person would also have to consider what Helton would do outside of Coors.

[RTT]

Originally Posted by Goose

A person would also have to consider what Helton would do outside of Coors.

That's very true.


Then again, we need all the hitting we can get and Helton can at least do that. We don't need HR power, we practically need another Garrett Anderson Circa 2003.

[Sawman]

According to the LA Times, the Angels and Rockies have continued their discussions regarding a trade for Todd Helton.

According to industry sources, Rockies General Manager Dan O'Dowd contacted Angels GM Bill Stoneman a week after the winter meetings to revive talks, offering to pay a bigger chunk of the $90 million remaining on Helton's nine-year, $141-million contract and to take less talent in return.

The original deal called for the Angels to send first baseman Casey Kotchman, catcher Jeff Mathis and triple-A shortstop Erick Aybar to Colorado for Helton, and for the Rockies to pick up an undisclosed portion of Helton's contract.

O'Dowd offered to replace Mathis in the package with a lesser prospect and to assume more of Helton's contract, but talks appear to have hit another snag over the financial terms of the deal, which are not available.


Even if the Rockies offered to pay half of the contract, the Angels believe five years and $45 million may be too much to commit to a 33-year-old whose power numbers are in decline. And they don't want to be saddled with a huge financial commitment to a player who may not be productive — or even able to play — in 2011.

[punxsy]

Helton would be a good idea for perhaps two years..but five? The only wayit would be OK to take on Helton is by expanding the trade: helton and/or Adkins or their 3B prospect.

We then send them Aybar, Kotchman, Molina and a lesser prospect for both.

We keep Mathis.