Dayton's Arms

GeorgiaRoyal · 12-08-2006, 10:12 PM

I remember Dayton's first action as the GM of the Royals pretty well. I was on Vacation in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee around June 20. He traded JP Howell to Tampa for Gathright and an infielder that I can't remember his name (Cortez?).

Since then, instead of trading arms (like his opening act) Dayton has been acquiring them like crazy. He's been completely rebuilding the pitching within the system. Here's a list of pitchers that Dayton has brought into the fold:

John Bale (LHP)-on 40 man roster. Free agent signing.
Brian Bannister (RHP)- on 40 man roster. Trade with Mets for Burgos
Jorge De La Rosa (LHP)- 40 man roster. Trade with Brewers for Graffanino
Scott Dohman (RHP) - on 40 man roster. Trade with Rockies. Affeldt and Bautista traded to acquire Dohman and Shealy.
Gil Meche (RHP)- 40 man roster. Free agent signing.
Odalis Perez (LHP)- 40 man roster. Trade with Dogers for Elmer Dessens
Ken Ray (RHP)- 40 man roster. minor league free agent signing.
Joakim Soria (RHP)- 40 man roster. Rule 5 pick from SD.

Tyler Lumsden (LHP)- AA last year. Acquired from the White Sox for MacDougal.
Blake Johnson (RHP)-Acquired from Dodgers in Odalis trade.
Julio Pimentel (RHP)-acquired from Dodgers in Odalis trade.
Daniel Cortes (RHP)- low A last year. Acquired from White Sox for MacDougal with Lumsden.

I may have missed someone, but that is 12 pitchers that Dayton has brought on board since June (not to mention the minor league free agents that he's signed fairly recently).

Codered · 12-11-2006, 02:15 PM

Just a few others that I think you missed.

Received Jose Diaz from the Rangers for Matt Stairs
Signed Esteban Yan as a free agent (Who Cares lol)

Lenny · 12-11-2006, 04:42 PM

Dayton Moore was expected to be the GM of the Braves. If he was to be GM of the Braves he would need to be all about pitching. You guys should expect to see this trend continue.

GeorgiaRoyal · 12-11-2006, 09:31 PM

I did forget those. Didn't Diaz become a minor league free agent when removed from the 40 man?

Codered · 12-12-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaRoyal

I did forget those. Didn't Diaz become a minor league free agent when removed from the 40 man?

I don't know I sort of lost track of him. Even if he is floating around KC's minor leagues I don't expect anything from him. He was sort of a "Get whatever you can" type deal for Matt Stairs.

tfn · 12-14-2006, 02:44 PM

It will take a few years to be able to tell whether Moore's Royals can draft and develop pitchers better than the previous regime, which in the end is likely to determine whether the Royals can return to sustained success.

In the meantime, it will be very interesting to assess how well Moore and his people can identify useful arms out of other organizations, the free agent pool, and the scrap heap. Maybe we should keep a running list (thread) of the major league arms that he acquires and discards, and how they perform afterwards, to see how he is doing.

Certainly the arms he discarded in 2006 haven't exactly overachieve elsewhere so far. Affeldt, Bautista, Howell. Did Moore release Snyder, or was that Baird?

Codered · 12-14-2006, 03:00 PM

If I remember correctly this happened right around the time Dayton was hired or being hired. Wasn't this right after Brandon Duckworth was signed? Perhaps this was done during the period of Baird being shown the door and Dayton officially becoming the Royals GM.

tfn · 12-14-2006, 03:50 PM

I checked, and Snyder was apparently DFA'd on the 11th of June and picked up off waivers by the BoSox on 16 June. Moore took over officially on June 8, so Snyder's departure is attributable to DM.

Codered · 12-14-2006, 03:55 PM

So that was Dayton's first smart move then?

12-08-2006, 10:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
GeorgiaRoyal Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 21	Dayton's Arms I remember Dayton's first action as the GM of the Royals pretty well. I was on Vacation in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee around June 20. He traded JP Howell to Tampa for Gathright and an infielder that I can't remember his name (Cortez?). Since then, instead of trading arms (like his opening act) Dayton has been acquiring them like crazy. He's been completely rebuilding the pitching within the system. Here's a list of pitchers that Dayton has brought into the fold: John Bale (LHP)-on 40 man roster. Free agent signing. Brian Bannister (RHP)- on 40 man roster. Trade with Mets for Burgos Jorge De La Rosa (LHP)- 40 man roster. Trade with Brewers for Graffanino Scott Dohman (RHP) - on 40 man roster. Trade with Rockies. Affeldt and Bautista traded to acquire Dohman and Shealy. Gil Meche (RHP)- 40 man roster. Free agent signing. Odalis Perez (LHP)- 40 man roster. Trade with Dogers for Elmer Dessens Ken Ray (RHP)- 40 man roster. minor league free agent signing. Joakim Soria (RHP)- 40 man roster. Rule 5 pick from SD. Tyler Lumsden (LHP)- AA last year. Acquired from the White Sox for MacDougal. Blake Johnson (RHP)-Acquired from Dodgers in Odalis trade. Julio Pimentel (RHP)-acquired from Dodgers in Odalis trade. Daniel Cortes (RHP)- low A last year. Acquired from White Sox for MacDougal with Lumsden. I may have missed someone, but that is 12 pitchers that Dayton has brought on board since June (not to mention the minor league free agents that he's signed fairly recently).

12-11-2006, 02:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Codered Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 148	Just a few others that I think you missed. Received Jose Diaz from the Rangers for Matt Stairs Signed Esteban Yan as a free agent (Who Cares lol) __________________ Save us Jay Cutler....

12-14-2006, 02:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
tfn New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	Interesting It will take a few years to be able to tell whether Moore's Royals can draft and develop pitchers better than the previous regime, which in the end is likely to determine whether the Royals can return to sustained success. In the meantime, it will be very interesting to assess how well Moore and his people can identify useful arms out of other organizations, the free agent pool, and the scrap heap. Maybe we should keep a running list (thread) of the major league arms that he acquires and discards, and how they perform afterwards, to see how he is doing. Certainly the arms he discarded in 2006 haven't exactly overachieve elsewhere so far. Affeldt, Bautista, Howell. Did Moore release Snyder, or was that Baird?

12-14-2006, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Codered Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 148	If I remember correctly this happened right around the time Dayton was hired or being hired. Wasn't this right after Brandon Duckworth was signed? Perhaps this was done during the period of Baird being shown the door and Dayton officially becoming the Royals GM. __________________ Save us Jay Cutler....

12-14-2006, 03:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
Codered Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 148	So that was Dayton's first smart move then? __________________ Save us Jay Cutler....

12-11-2006, 04:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lenny Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 240	Dayton Moore was expected to be the GM of the Braves. If he was to be GM of the Braves he would need to be all about pitching. You guys should expect to see this trend continue.

12-11-2006, 09:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
GeorgiaRoyal Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 21	I did forget those. Didn't Diaz become a minor league free agent when removed from the 40 man?

12-14-2006, 03:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
tfn New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	I checked, and Snyder was apparently DFA'd on the 11th of June and picked up off waivers by the BoSox on 16 June. Moore took over officially on June 8, so Snyder's departure is attributable to DM.