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When Brett finally retired, I was ready to move on. I still feel that way. The latest news on Favre is a nightmare for the Packers. Team support would be split, and Al Harris isn't helping matters in his interviews. Harris obviously isn't use to damage control, and the media is using his comments about taking Brett back with open arms. The team needs to unite behind Aaron Rodgers and let Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson figure out how to get any ideas of playing another season out of Brett's mind.
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----Aaron Rodgers hasn't done ANYTHING to make me think that he is a shoo-in as the next long-term Packers QB. While it would be nice to think he is capable-I've not seen him play enough plays to have a lot of confidence in him.
IF Favre wants to return-well, with him-the Packers are a contender. Without him, .500 at best............... |
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For me, the biggest issues don't include whether or not Aaron Rodgers is ready to start. Don't get me wrong, it is an important issue. The most important issues, for starters, is whether or not Aaron Rodgers is given the fair chance to prove whether or not he's ready. Rodgers hasn't been given that chance. Also, Favre made the decision to retire, and once he has made that decision, the Packers needed to and did move on.
Most importantly, I tend to view this issue through the mind of a good politician. What does a good politician always do to insure that he/she has a chance to keep his/her position? Among many things, he/she does as little damage as possible to alienate his/her core supporters, his/her base. The Packers' organization knows that they cannot alienate the players(i.e. part of the administration), and they cannot alienate the Packers' fans(i.e. the people). Having said that, I know we're dealing with a double-edged sword. In some players' minds, such as Al Harris, the 33 year old veteran, certainly DD, who is also 33 years old, and the rest of the receiving corps, they'd love for Brett to return. But the Packers are the youngest football team in the league, and Ted Thompson knows what he's doing. I think about defensive players, young players who haven't spent much time around Brett. Then I think about the rookie class, including QB Brian Brohm, who don't know Brett Favre at all. Then I think about the defensive players who may dwell his final interception, much like some Packer fans. I can't get inside the players' heads, but I think it's fair for me to say that Brett's return could cause some serious division, whether is be the offense, the defense, coaches, or salary. So, politically, the Packers have to do what's "in the best interest of the team." They have to convince the team and the fans that Favre is a potential threat, an enemy to the team, and then they have to release him with assurances that he doesn't end up playing within the division. I'm willing to bet that the Packers Organization have been preparing for this potential problem for quite some time, just in case it actually happened. Also, I can't speak for every Packer fan, just myself. As a Packer fan, a part of me would love to have Brett Favre back. That's right! I'm not stupid. Favre just came off of one of his best seasons with the youngest team in the league. But that's just it. It's the youngest team in the league, and maybe the Packers won't do as well without Favre. But maybe they can live without him. Not every Super Bowl winner has a hall of fame QB. Besides, what if they Packers took him back for one season and didn't get the Super Bowl? The organization would have endured all of this drama for something short of a Super Bowl...again? Since there will never be another Brett Favre, it's best to move on without him. He made the decision to retire, and through Aaron Rodgers's eyes, I find it selfish of Favre to keep Rodgers from getting his chance to prove that the Packers are .500 at best without Favre, as you stated, gator. As for not seeing Rodgers play enough plays, neither have I or anyone else. He played well in the Dallas game last year, but I think it's a different mindset, knowing you're the backup. Some of the media compare this issue to the Montana/Young issue, but I like to view it as a little bit of Montana/Young and a little bit of Drew Brees/Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers had to prove he was a worthy first round pick recently, and I think he has done so. He's surrounded by a talented offense, and he had to prove that he's capable of leading it. The Packers have to let Favre go for the "team's best interests," and hope that Rodgers can be another first round pick who waited his time behind, what is now a very talented offense, just like Rivers did. As I said before, this issue is a double-edged sword, but then again, Brett Favre has always been a double-edged sword. Take the good with the bad, and this is bad. |
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Mr. Crybaby got reinstanted today by the NFL, just leave the team alone now Brett you selfish brat!
Hopefully this manner can be resolved. I would even accept him going to an NFC North Rival for all I care, just get him off the team, preferabbly by trading him.
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-all the animosity toward Brett.
Most of this mess wan't his, you know. He said he had made a mistake and wanted to play. He said he wanted to play in Green Bay, but if he couldn't-asked to be let play elsewhere. The story was the same from the begining to the end. teddy and Co-(and I reluctantly will include McCarthy, due to his ted-like statements of the past few days) have woven a web of innuendo, half-truths and outright lies around this story, all in the hopes of forcing Brett to stay retired. Fortunately for the NFL they weren't able to succeed, and the process works yet again. Now the ball is in tt&mm's court. If they truly want to do the best for the team, they let Brett have a chance to win the starting job. If not, they'll trade him or do something as stupid. |
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From MGGPackerFan---
"Most importantly, I tend to view this issue through the mind of a good politician. What does a good politician always do to insure that he/she has a chance to keep his/her position?" First, there is no such thing as a good politician. What does a politician do to keep their position? They lie, bend the truth, and lie some more. Just like TT and his puppet, MM. "I find it selfish of Favre to keep Rodgers from getting his chance to prove that the Packers are .500 at best without Favre," To me, this is football and not the third grade playground at recess. Many like yourself feel Brett is selfish and AR needs his "chance". What a crock. AR deserves nothing unless he earns it and he hasn't earned squat. The Packers and their fans deserved to have the best possible qb on the field in September and it sure as heck would not have been AR if there was an open competition with Brett. TT's ego would not allow AR to sit another year and risk losing him, thus proving AR was a wasted pick. The best qb for Green Bay is now in NY. "Besides, what if they Packers took him back for one season and didn't get the Super Bowl? The organization would have endured all of this drama for something short of a Super Bowl...again?" If you're suggesting that Brett is responsible for our loss to the Giants, may I point out why that is not so. The game I watched had Plaxico Burress torching our secondary all day long, due in part to our defensive line putting zero pressure on Eli Manning, who had time to write his memoirs while napping in the pocket. Also, while Brett showed up for the game, I can't say the same for our running game. It's amazing how all the TT supporters are more than willing to toss Brett under the bus just so they don't have to say anything negative about TT. Gator, you hit it on the head when you said most of this mess wasn't Brett's doing. I feel there has been animosity between Brett and TT from the beginning of TT's reign. I also feel it came to a head after the Giants game when MM mentioned in an interview that time was running out for Green Bay to see what AR could do (I feel these were TT's words and not MM's). If I'm Brett, I'm thinking, What the hey? Why would they say that unless they didn't want me anymore? Well, we all know now that TT did not want Brett anymore under any circumstances. When Brett retired, I feel he did so out of anger and emotion and soon realized he shouldn't have to retire to make TT feel better. So now Brett is a Jet and all the folks in TT-ville are happy now that they won't be forced to watch one of the most exciting players in NFL history play for the Pack ever again. In one huge bonehead move, TT has done what no one else could---divide Packer Nation. I, personally, can't wait for TT to be gone. |
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