We Are Marshall

aCutb · December 26th, 2006, 11:14 PM

I request everyone to see it. I just got home around midnight tonight after watching it and can say that it is my favorite sports movie of all time. It's emotional, inspirational, and inspiring. Both of the Matthews are good in this movie but the one actor that stole the show was Anthony Mackie, (Nate Ruffin).

Good night everyone.

dlb · December 27th, 2006, 06:16 AM

The critics hate it. They say it's just one worn out cliche after another, delivered artlessly.

TonyBagO'Donuts · December 29th, 2006, 12:49 AM

The critics have been saying the same thing about sports movies since Remember the Titans came out.

TheAJx · December 29th, 2006, 02:46 AM

Yeah, critics are ruthless on feelgood movies, mostly because they also see art in misery and Bush-bashing. Frankly, the movies are for personal enjoyment, for the masses of us who are too dumb to get our Film Studies degrees from NYU, we are easily entertained by cliches, and other things like guns, breasts and footballs.

If you want a movie that was delivered artfully, received great reviews, but all-in-all, was a piece of garbage, watch Children of Men.

Chromie · December 29th, 2006, 09:44 AM

Well I'm a sucker for feel-good sports movies anyway...I loved Invicible although I felt they could've extended the season more. I loved Remember the Titans, Varsity Blues, Gridiron Gang...etc, etc. I have yet to see We Are Marshall but I want to. I'll probably go in the next week or so to see it and Rocky Balboa.

noetsi · January 1st, 2007, 04:30 PM

Critics like certain types of movies, they commonly pan inspirational ones.

Premium · January 4th, 2007, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAJx

Yeah, critics are ruthless on feelgood movies, mostly because they also see art in misery and Bush-bashing. Frankly, the movies are for personal enjoyment, for the masses of us who are too dumb to get our Film Studies degrees from NYU, we are easily entertained by cliches, and other things like guns, breasts and footballs.

If you want a movie that was delivered artfully, received great reviews, but all-in-all, was a piece of garbage, watch Children of Men.

Children of Men was a piece of garbage? What?

While I don't proclaim it to be the best movie of all-time, there's still absolutely no reality in which it's a piece of garbage. The dialogue was strong, the emotion was real, and the tension was enough to pin you to your seat. There were some flaws (the pregnant girls character was underdeveloped/they could have fleshed out the Clive Owen-Julianne Moore baby scenario better), however overall it was a great example of actually delivering on an intriguing premise.

But, to each his own, I guess.

Back on topic...I thought We Are Marshall was all-around bad. I'm not satisfied by cliche-ridden, uninventive movie-making any longer. Not to mention the fact that the dialogue was completely laughable at times.

I understand most people are OK with a movie that temporarily inspires them and suspends the reality of their daily lives, however ANYONE can do that if they rely on those same old cliches. We Are Marshall didn't create real emotion, instead it used audience-pleasing cliches to manipulate. The best movies can build emotion and tension without falsifying them.

It's unfortunate, too. The story really could've made an excellent film, but the script and direction were just flat-out weak.

bedir than average · January 4th, 2007, 10:45 AM

What if, as is the case here, the cliches are built on reality?

Premium · January 4th, 2007, 05:07 PM

See: the difference between World Trade Center and United 93.

Both were built on real events (obviously), however United 93 was infinitely better as it told an excellent story without falsifying emotion.

I actually didn't mind World Trade Center, but that may be because I haven't seen that story or a story similar to it a million times.

I'm not saying you SHOULDN'T like this movie. I've just grown tired of that type of filmmaking. Again, to each his own.

TITANFAN · January 4th, 2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aCutb

I request everyone to see it. I just got home around midnight tonight after watching it and can say that it is my favorite sports movie of all time. It's emotional, inspirational, and inspiring. Both of the Matthews are good in this movie but the one actor that stole the show was Anthony Mackie, (Nate Ruffin).

Good night everyone.

Glad ya had a good time there aCutb. I'm really lookin' forward to seein' it as well. Some movies I'll go see on a big screen but some I'll just wait to see on dvd. I like the big screen for big action/scenery movies and one like this I don't mind waiting for. But I am looking forward to it. Thanks for sharing the review.

jim

Nocahoma · January 4th, 2007, 06:54 PM

I probably won't see it, but not because of its cinematic reputation. Plain & simple, I loathe Marshall. They were our biggest rival when I was in undergrad and for a few years thereafter, and I thought they deserved their reputation for recruitment of good football players that also happened to be piss-poor human beings (see Moss, Randy).

We're not talking Dook-level hatred, here, but it's probably close.

LongtimeBravesFan · March 11th, 2007, 07:36 AM

I saw it last night. Nice movie but it depressed the heck out of me. I also wonder how much dramatic license was taken with the movie.

LaxD · March 11th, 2007, 12:25 PM

Yeah it made me pretty sad when I saw it. Great movie though.

Grandstander · March 11th, 2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by noetsi

Critics like certain types of movies, they commonly pan inspirational ones.

That is an easy but incorrect generalization. If the movie inspires something noble and it is well made, it will be well received. "Norma Rae", "Rocky", "Schindler'sList", "Seabisquit", "Dave", "Glory", "Gandhi"... represent an array of highly praised films with a diversity of inspirational themes. When a film designed to inspire is overly blunt, too obviously trying to milk the tears, employing unsubtle good/evil characters, promoting some cultish agenda or limping along with a dull script, then it gets panned.

Boonader93 · June 23rd, 2008, 07:32 PM

it was all right!!!

very sad movie!!!

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Premium New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 9	See: the difference between World Trade Center and United 93. Both were built on real events (obviously), however United 93 was infinitely better as it told an excellent story without falsifying emotion. I actually didn't mind World Trade Center, but that may be because I haven't seen that story or a story similar to it a million times. I'm not saying you SHOULDN'T like this movie. I've just grown tired of that type of filmmaking. Again, to each his own. Last edited by Premium; January 4th, 2007 at 05:12 PM.

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Boonader93 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stockholm,Sweden Posts: 719	it was all right!!! very sad movie!!! __________________ Pavel Datsyuk Is The Best Hockey Player Is The Whole World. Hes The Best One To Step On The Ice. GO RED WINGS 2007-2008 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!

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dlb Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,504	The critics hate it. They say it's just one worn out cliche after another, delivered artlessly.

December 29th, 2006, 12:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
TonyBagO'Donuts Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 65	The critics have been saying the same thing about sports movies since Remember the Titans came out.

December 29th, 2006, 02:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
TheAJx Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 896	Yeah, critics are ruthless on feelgood movies, mostly because they also see art in misery and Bush-bashing. Frankly, the movies are for personal enjoyment, for the masses of us who are too dumb to get our Film Studies degrees from NYU, we are easily entertained by cliches, and other things like guns, breasts and footballs. If you want a movie that was delivered artfully, received great reviews, but all-in-all, was a piece of garbage, watch Children of Men.

December 29th, 2006, 09:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chromie New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nashville Posts: 6	Well I'm a sucker for feel-good sports movies anyway...I loved Invicible although I felt they could've extended the season more. I loved Remember the Titans, Varsity Blues, Gridiron Gang...etc, etc. I have yet to see We Are Marshall but I want to. I'll probably go in the next week or so to see it and Rocky Balboa.

January 1st, 2007, 04:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
noetsi Legend Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 17,320	Critics like certain types of movies, they commonly pan inspirational ones.

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Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	I probably won't see it, but not because of its cinematic reputation. Plain & simple, I loathe Marshall. They were our biggest rival when I was in undergrad and for a few years thereafter, and I thought they deserved their reputation for recruitment of good football players that also happened to be piss-poor human beings (see Moss, Randy). We're not talking Dook-level hatred, here, but it's probably close.

March 11th, 2007, 07:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
LongtimeBravesFan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,655	I saw it last night. Nice movie but it depressed the heck out of me. I also wonder how much dramatic license was taken with the movie.