Why So Serious? (Dark Knight Trailer Released) - Page 3

noetsi · August 4th, 2008, 10:21 AM

Incidently the best scene in the entire movie was delivered I thought by a minor character - the convict who takes the detonator from the officer saying "I am going to do what you should have done ten minutes ago" then tosses it out the window.

That was about as powerful a scene as I have seen ever in a film.

TylerDurden · August 4th, 2008, 02:08 PM

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the convict who takes the detonator from the officer saying "I am going to do what you should have done ten minutes ago" then tosses it out the window.

Gotta love Tommy 'Tiny' Lister.

A lot of people have trashed on that ferry scene. But I personally thought it was great. For no other reason than that the business suit guy who volunteers to pull the trigger on the bomb reminds me of a small but hilarious character in Frank Miller's 'Dark Knight Returns.' This straight-laced businessman who talks to the media during the height of anarchy in Gotham City in order to angrily justify as perfectly sane and rationale every act of moral depravity he engaged in, including theft and murder.

noetsi · August 4th, 2008, 02:13 PM

The scenaio, although few will care, at the ferry is a variant of the game theory game "prisoner's dilima" In it if one side acts the other loses so the question is who acts first. Actually in the game itself both win if they do nothing, but in this particular variant both lose in that case making action even more likely.

noetsi · August 4th, 2008, 02:22 PM

Its interesting they not only did they not detail the origin of the joker, but had him tell multiple conflicting ones. They may have considered him returning although obviously that won't occur now (I doubt they will try a replacment figure).

The Joker is to DC what Dr Doom is to Marvel. Widely accepted as the greatest of the super villains. Indeed in one of the crossovers that DC does from time to time in its magazines one those super villains (relating how feared the joker is) noted that when the bad guys meet they tell joker stories (to scare each other). He also at times has shown what the industry calls "four wall" capability - that is he is aware of the comic book nature of the universe the DC heroes live in and events that no one in that universe should be capable of knowing about (such as those taking place before the crisis on infinite earths, now officially said to have never occured, e.g., the existence of the old supergirl) . A major gift.

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noetsi Legend Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,957	Incidently the best scene in the entire movie was delivered I thought by a minor character - the convict who takes the detonator from the officer saying "I am going to do what you should have done ten minutes ago" then tosses it out the window. That was about as powerful a scene as I have seen ever in a film. __________________ Romans Chapter XIII

August 4th, 2008, 02:13 PM	#33 (permalink)
noetsi Legend Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,957	The scenaio, although few will care, at the ferry is a variant of the game theory game "prisoner's dilima" In it if one side acts the other loses so the question is who acts first. Actually in the game itself both win if they do nothing, but in this particular variant both lose in that case making action even more likely. __________________ Romans Chapter XIII

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noetsi Legend Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,957	Its interesting they not only did they not detail the origin of the joker, but had him tell multiple conflicting ones. They may have considered him returning although obviously that won't occur now (I doubt they will try a replacment figure). The Joker is to DC what Dr Doom is to Marvel. Widely accepted as the greatest of the super villains. Indeed in one of the crossovers that DC does from time to time in its magazines one those super villains (relating how feared the joker is) noted that when the bad guys meet they tell joker stories (to scare each other). He also at times has shown what the industry calls "four wall" capability - that is he is aware of the comic book nature of the universe the DC heroes live in and events that no one in that universe should be capable of knowing about (such as those taking place before the crisis on infinite earths, now officially said to have never occured, e.g., the existence of the old supergirl) . A major gift. __________________ Romans Chapter XIII Last edited by noetsi; August 11th, 2008 at 08:57 PM.