Josh Barfield or Brian Roberts

Scoresberg21 · 04-04-2007, 03:36 PM

I recently made a trade in which I acquired Barfield and Carlos Lee for Brian Roberts and Miguel Tejada. I have Hanley Ramirez to play SS and I needed some OF help so I felt it was a good trade.

Just curious, I think Barfield is going to have a much better season than Brian Roberts, whose numbers have gone down since his solid season two years ago. Who does everyone like for this season here? Barfield or Roberts?

I'm in a 9 team Roto league.

My batters are as follows:

C-Brian McCann
1B-Ryan Howard
2B-Josh Barfield
3B-Chipper Jones
SS-Hanley Ramirez
OF-Manny Ramirez
OF-Carlos Lee
OF-Hideki Matsui
OF-Corey Patterson
UTIL-Mark Teixeira
UTIL-Frank Thomas
BENCH-Alex Gordon
BENCH-Rich Aurilia
BENCH-Nick Swisher
BENCH-J.D. Drew

BMW · 04-04-2007, 04:24 PM

Scoresberg21 · 04-04-2007, 04:31 PM

JB? Not sure what means? Sorry lol.

Sawman · 04-04-2007, 05:03 PM

JB = Josh Barfield, and I agree that JB will have the better numbers.

BMW · 04-04-2007, 05:04 PM

Josh Barfield. He will be better. He is in a better lineup, he is more athletic, and Brian Roberts overachieved for a season, Barfield will continue to improve, in a pretty freaking good lineup.

Scoresberg21 · 04-04-2007, 05:11 PM

Thanks fellas. I don't know how I didn't conclude that JB meant Josh Barfield. Just one of those days I guess lol. I agree with your assessments and i'm glad you agree. Now hopefully Alex Gordon will take over for Chipper Jones half way through my season because I can't stand Larry "Chipper" Jones.

all4phillysportsfan · 04-05-2007, 03:35 AM

Great move to draft McCann, he's off to a great start, not sure if it's attributed to McCann's hitting or the woeful pitching by the Phillies bullpen.

DiamondDave · 04-05-2007, 09:08 AM

I see Roberts as a top 5 or 6 2B.... I do not see such a ranking for Barfield, though he could be top 10... the question is how much of a difference is there really between #10 and #6 at 2B??

Roberts was hurt a little in the past 2 seasons.. and that has to be a concern... but he is a catalyst for the O's lineup at the top spot in the order... And even in a down year from his big one, Roberts hit .286 with double digit HR and 30+ steals... Barfield is a #8 hitter and will not really be moved up in the lineup... that alone will have a bit more value towards Roberts... Roberts is a bit more patient hitter... each of them has double digit HR power and 20+SB talent

I personally think, and not just as an O's fan... that Roberts is a slightly better fantasy play... not immensely better, but better... but it is about the value... can you get Roberts pretty safely in the late 5th or early 6th as a decent value? Yep.... But what I have seen so far after that is that with a lack of good depth at the 2B position, there is a 2B run shortly after Roberts is usually taken where the next few 2B men are taken a bit ahead of where they should be (a round or 2), as in Weeks, Kent, or Lugo.... that makes for a bad situation and some unlucky team will be left with Hudson or Iguchi as a starter, all because the chips don't fall right with the draft run on 2Bmen...

As for the trade... it could be pretty even, except that Miggy is a pretty good SS performer... but you were cushioned with Ramirez (how you did that, I don't know)... so the trade is not bad per se... but i would not be thinking that Barfield is going to be a better fantasy player or has more fantasy potential

Scoresberg21 · 04-19-2007, 05:38 PM

Well Barfield has been awful so far. Thank God I picked up Rich Aurilia.

BMW · 04-19-2007, 06:26 PM

Sizemore is the only Indian hitter who has been able to get in a groove after they're awful schedule to start the year.

Scoresberg21 · 05-02-2007, 01:57 AM

I just dropped Barfield for the red-hot Alex Gonzalez. He is just horrendous so far and I have Aurilia, Freel, and Kelly Johnson who are all 2B eligible. So long Barfield.

BMW · 05-02-2007, 09:38 AM

Barfield has just started showing signs of life actually. But Kelly Johnson has been red hot as well.

Scoresberg21 · 05-02-2007, 02:15 PM

Barfield is hitting 9th in the Indians lineup and is batting under .200 after a month. At this point, I don't care how hot he gets lol.

DiamondDave · 05-02-2007, 02:21 PM

Roberts only batting .257 and missed a couple games... but is actually doing ok for me in the league where I have him... 11 steals already, 1HR, 17 R, 7 RBI

04-04-2007, 03:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Scoresberg21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16	Josh Barfield or Brian Roberts I recently made a trade in which I acquired Barfield and Carlos Lee for Brian Roberts and Miguel Tejada. I have Hanley Ramirez to play SS and I needed some OF help so I felt it was a good trade. Just curious, I think Barfield is going to have a much better season than Brian Roberts, whose numbers have gone down since his solid season two years ago. Who does everyone like for this season here? Barfield or Roberts? I'm in a 9 team Roto league. My batters are as follows: C-Brian McCann 1B-Ryan Howard 2B-Josh Barfield 3B-Chipper Jones SS-Hanley Ramirez OF-Manny Ramirez OF-Carlos Lee OF-Hideki Matsui OF-Corey Patterson UTIL-Mark Teixeira UTIL-Frank Thomas BENCH-Alex Gordon BENCH-Rich Aurilia BENCH-Nick Swisher BENCH-J.D. Drew Last edited by Scoresberg21; 04-04-2007 at 04:03 PM.

04-04-2007, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
BMW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Coral Florida Posts: 830	JB __________________ BMW Green Bay Packers 14-4

04-04-2007, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
BMW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Coral Florida Posts: 830	Josh Barfield. He will be better. He is in a better lineup, he is more athletic, and Brian Roberts overachieved for a season, Barfield will continue to improve, in a pretty freaking good lineup. __________________ BMW Green Bay Packers 14-4

04-05-2007, 03:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	Great move to draft McCann, he's off to a great start, not sure if it's attributed to McCann's hitting or the woeful pitching by the Phillies bullpen. __________________ Philly Sports: The worst drought in America.

04-05-2007, 09:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	I see Roberts as a top 5 or 6 2B.... I do not see such a ranking for Barfield, though he could be top 10... the question is how much of a difference is there really between #10 and #6 at 2B?? Roberts was hurt a little in the past 2 seasons.. and that has to be a concern... but he is a catalyst for the O's lineup at the top spot in the order... And even in a down year from his big one, Roberts hit .286 with double digit HR and 30+ steals... Barfield is a #8 hitter and will not really be moved up in the lineup... that alone will have a bit more value towards Roberts... Roberts is a bit more patient hitter... each of them has double digit HR power and 20+SB talent I personally think, and not just as an O's fan... that Roberts is a slightly better fantasy play... not immensely better, but better... but it is about the value... can you get Roberts pretty safely in the late 5th or early 6th as a decent value? Yep.... But what I have seen so far after that is that with a lack of good depth at the 2B position, there is a 2B run shortly after Roberts is usually taken where the next few 2B men are taken a bit ahead of where they should be (a round or 2), as in Weeks, Kent, or Lugo.... that makes for a bad situation and some unlucky team will be left with Hudson or Iguchi as a starter, all because the chips don't fall right with the draft run on 2Bmen... As for the trade... it could be pretty even, except that Miggy is a pretty good SS performer... but you were cushioned with Ramirez (how you did that, I don't know)... so the trade is not bad per se... but i would not be thinking that Barfield is going to be a better fantasy player or has more fantasy potential __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

04-04-2007, 04:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Scoresberg21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16	JB? Not sure what means? Sorry lol.

04-04-2007, 05:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sawman Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Riverside, Ca. Posts: 259	JB = Josh Barfield, and I agree that JB will have the better numbers.

04-04-2007, 05:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Scoresberg21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16	Thanks fellas. I don't know how I didn't conclude that JB meant Josh Barfield. Just one of those days I guess lol. I agree with your assessments and i'm glad you agree. Now hopefully Alex Gordon will take over for Chipper Jones half way through my season because I can't stand Larry "Chipper" Jones.

04-19-2007, 05:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Scoresberg21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16	Well Barfield has been awful so far. Thank God I picked up Rich Aurilia.

04-19-2007, 06:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
BMW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Coral Florida Posts: 830	Sizemore is the only Indian hitter who has been able to get in a groove after they're awful schedule to start the year. __________________ BMW Green Bay Packers 14-4

05-02-2007, 01:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
Scoresberg21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16	I just dropped Barfield for the red-hot Alex Gonzalez. He is just horrendous so far and I have Aurilia, Freel, and Kelly Johnson who are all 2B eligible. So long Barfield.

05-02-2007, 09:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
BMW Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Coral Florida Posts: 830	Barfield has just started showing signs of life actually. But Kelly Johnson has been red hot as well. __________________ BMW Green Bay Packers 14-4

05-02-2007, 02:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Scoresberg21 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 16	Barfield is hitting 9th in the Indians lineup and is batting under .200 after a month. At this point, I don't care how hot he gets lol.

05-02-2007, 02:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	Roberts only batting .257 and missed a couple games... but is actually doing ok for me in the league where I have him... 11 steals already, 1HR, 17 R, 7 RBI __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.