First Fantasy Team of the season for DD

DiamondDave · 03-05-2007, 01:09 PM

I had to finish snickering before I posted... I was getting lectured in the draft by some moron who picked Juan Pierre (the 1 category roster killer) in the 7th, and 2 RP's in the first 6 rounds... LMFAO

In parenthesis you will see the round drafted... I was 6th pick in the odd rounds, 7th in the even ones

C - Joe Mauer (3)
1B - Mark Teixeira (2)
2B - Brian Roberts (5)
3B - Alex Rodriguez (1)
SS - Edgar Renteria (13)
OF - Rocco Baldelli (7), Nick Markakis (10), Michael Cuddyer (16)
UTIL - Aubrey Huff (17)

Bench - Jeremy Hermida OF (18), Edwin Encarnación 3B (19), Shane Victorino OF (21)

SP - Jake Peavy (4), Ben Sheets (6), Josh Beckett (12), Rich Harden (14), Dave Bush (20)
RP - Chris Ray (8), Chad Cordero (9), Brad Lidge (11), Joel Zumaya (15)

Had to go a little earlier than planned on RP, as they were flying off the shelves, but I think I got good value picks on them instead of wasting picks in rounds 1-5 on them like many teams...... I believe I got steals on Beckett and Harden in the late middle rounds... the risky picks at the end in Encarnacion, Victorino, and Hermida are of course risks, but each with big upside on the bench.... OF is weak, and heavily reliant on luck, but some well rounded players in some good situations....

Worst pick - Baldelli - OF's were flying off the shelves UBER quick in this draft (as seen by the types of pitchers that were there in the middle and late rounds).... 7 in a row were picked right in front of me and I had to take something. Was not about to reach and risk without potential though

Best pick - Tie between Beckett in the 12th and Harden in the 14th... I don't think there is a real explaination necessary

DiamondDave · 03-05-2007, 01:21 PM

Forgot to mention... normal 12 team league... normal scoring (5x5)

Nocahoma · 03-05-2007, 01:54 PM

It looks like you guys had an OF run because you were overdue for one. That's kind of late to have your first OF pick, so I assume most of the primo OFers were long gone while you were concentrating on other spots. No problems with that -- you actually did OK, although I might look to shore that OF up via trade.

The same can be said for Pitching, too -- some people just like to pick SP's later than others. I like to get at least one solid contributor early and fill in with quality later (which it looks like you did with Peavy & Sheets). I agree that you got some good value in Beckett & Harden.

Honestly, I don't get people who go with Closers so early. Yes, they are overvalued in Fantasy ball, but why inflate that even more? I don't like Cordero going before Lidge, even with Lidge's instability last season. Cordero is going to be overvalued on a Nats team that will be lucky to get him the ball in a Save situation.

Watch out for Huff, too -- I'm not sure how much playing time he'll get.

DiamondDave · 03-05-2007, 02:16 PM

Main reason I went for Cordero first... was that Lidge was hidden down a little further on the list... knew people would forget about him... and they did

As for Huff.... I figure he can be a value pick... if given full playing time he could be a .280/.290 guy with 25 HR and 90RBI... but I made sure I took some backup OF's I thought could contribute, and Edwin Encarnacion as another insurance policy

bedir than average · 03-05-2007, 03:02 PM

I would play Hermidia over Huff for the first couple of weeks until you see which Aubrey Huff is playing for the Os.

I love your IF. As for the OF, if you aren't getting top tier talent the mid tiers are all basically the same, and interchangable. Not a big deal there.

Is this roto or H2H, and if I missed it already, that's my bad

DiamondDave · 03-05-2007, 03:06 PM

roto... 5x5

645 · 03-06-2007, 01:31 AM

Alright Double D, I know you been waiting for my option.

Ok, It's a solid team but it don't excite me. you see when they are reaching for Outfielders there are players at the other positions that are droping more then they should and it give a good fantasy player to get a few great steels.

So the best way to handle runs on a possition is takes as many of them good players that they are passing on to long and wait for the late rounds to make a few gambles to fill them spots.

But I think you fail at that. I don't see not a one single players that where I can say theres a player that you got he later then when he sould be gone.

But a nice team anyway.

Goose · 03-06-2007, 02:08 AM

I'm curious to see some of your teams 645.

645 · 03-06-2007, 04:11 AM

Sure Goose I have no Problem with that. I can do that so hopefully you learn something.

Yeah but I have been trying to keep down the number of leagues I play in for I play too many and I want to play fewer so that I can forcus more on the ones I do play in.

So I have been curefull with the Leagues I sign up for and only do ones that give me time to get ready. Sure I am ready to go but I have not yet Drafted but I'll go ahead and impress you when I do.

DiamondDave · 03-06-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 645

Alright Double D, I know you been waiting for my option.

Ok, It's a solid team but it don't excite me. you see when they are reaching for Outfielders there are players at the other positions that are droping more then they should and it give a good fantasy player to get a few great steels.

So the best way to handle runs on a possition is takes as many of them good players that they are passing on to long and wait for the late rounds to make a few gambles to fill them spots.

But I think you fail at that. I don't see not a one single players that where I can say theres a player that you got he later then when he sould be gone.

But a nice team anyway.

Well... You do look for bargains after runs... and I did get a few without going away from my team and draft strategy... I do believe I got some steals at the SP position when others had to go back and scrounge for catchers and middle infielders

The only thing I am disappointed in is the OF, and even that has possible upside

I could have gone after Rickie Weeks, or Papelbon, or Bonds, or Prince Fielder at the time when I started picking OF's in Baldelli... but I did not see the value in that... I let others jump at those players.... the ONLY players I kick myself in the butt for not taking there were Dontrelle Willis and Matt Cain, both of whom I could have had in the 7th round... but I already had 2 SP's and no OF's... I could not really afford to wait longer and have an even worse situation for my OF

Nocahoma · 03-06-2007, 11:26 AM

WTF? Did 645's little brother just start posting for him? That doesn't sound like you at all, man.

645 · 03-06-2007, 10:08 PM

Noc, Your funny.

Dave, What I'm saying is it starts with your pre-rankings. The closer you can get it to where each player is being drafted in a average draft or where they should be drafted the best off you will be.

For when runs happen if you know the players that they should be drafting that is a big advantage. What I say is you shouldn't overpay for anyone.

It's best to go with the few of the draft and not get cought up in the runs. The only winners of runs are those that stay out of them and the one who starts them. You got to take the draft in two parts.

First part you got to just take the best players you can get without worry of the possitions as long as you don't take too many of one possition or bench hitters.

Then once the draft gets to the point where the best Players are gone and only borderline proven players remain that when you take your guys your willing to gamble on to fill your few open spots.

Encarnación might be good enough to start at utilty. Hermida might be good enough at start at Outfield. Your team would look better with Papelbon or Weeks. Maybe not Bonds though.

Sure some of the guy you gamble may not pain out but that really isn't a problem for few reasons.

1) the guys that take all the outfielders will come to you when they find out they luck good infielders and pitchers and they see you have want they need. Sure you'll have to fight though the stupid offers but they will give in sooner or later.

And 2) if your gambles don't pain out you can always drop them and pick up someone that is paining out.

You just got to remenber after every draft there still is enough talent that remains available to win any league and all you have to do is find them before everyone else. You got to trust that you can find them.

Nocahoma · 03-06-2007, 11:01 PM

Honestly, I wasn't going for humor. I was serious when I said it didn't sound like you. Hey, you could have been in insulin shock or something, for all *I* knew.

Nocahoma · 03-06-2007, 11:02 PM

LOL -- nevermind!! I just saw the time stamp on the post.

DiamondDave · 03-07-2007, 06:23 AM

645

I've been drafting and playing fantasy baseball since the early 90's... I do think I am not clueless as to what I am doing...

As for Papelbon??? PUH-LEASE...... going into the rotation, unproven at the ML level... that is a higher risk for a 5-10th round pick.... Weeks, I already had a 2B and Weeks does not qualify at a different position.... too soon to draft a 2nd player at a position unless that player is a certified stud, and that definition does not fit weeks.....

Yes.... people CAN view you as a trade outlet after the corral numerous OF's.... BUT the thing is at THAT point is that they had not OVERDRAFTED OF's... rather had started filling their 2nd and 3rd OF slots.... I had Baldelli ranked pretty high anyway... I had just hoped to land him in the 8th or 9th, not the 7th.... I may have stretched ahead on him, but I got bargains in later rounds (Renteria, Harden, Encarnacion, etc) to make up for that stretch while the others were scrounding for middle infielders, starting pitchers, and catchers

I trust that I found a good amount of the talented players hidden in the draft.. a few that I was drafting with also found some I was targeting, but that is going to happen... the Fantasy Baseball world is not filled with a bunch of idiots as much as the old days where homerism seemed to be prevalent on about 1/2 the teams and nobody looked past the all star teams or 2-5th places in the batting order

03-05-2007, 01:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	First Fantasy Team of the season for DD I had to finish snickering before I posted... I was getting lectured in the draft by some moron who picked Juan Pierre (the 1 category roster killer) in the 7th, and 2 RP's in the first 6 rounds... LMFAO In parenthesis you will see the round drafted... I was 6th pick in the odd rounds, 7th in the even ones C - Joe Mauer (3) 1B - Mark Teixeira (2) 2B - Brian Roberts (5) 3B - Alex Rodriguez (1) SS - Edgar Renteria (13) OF - Rocco Baldelli (7), Nick Markakis (10), Michael Cuddyer (16) UTIL - Aubrey Huff (17) Bench - Jeremy Hermida OF (18), Edwin Encarnación 3B (19), Shane Victorino OF (21) SP - Jake Peavy (4), Ben Sheets (6), Josh Beckett (12), Rich Harden (14), Dave Bush (20) RP - Chris Ray (8), Chad Cordero (9), Brad Lidge (11), Joel Zumaya (15) Had to go a little earlier than planned on RP, as they were flying off the shelves, but I think I got good value picks on them instead of wasting picks in rounds 1-5 on them like many teams...... I believe I got steals on Beckett and Harden in the late middle rounds... the risky picks at the end in Encarnacion, Victorino, and Hermida are of course risks, but each with big upside on the bench.... OF is weak, and heavily reliant on luck, but some well rounded players in some good situations.... Worst pick - Baldelli - OF's were flying off the shelves UBER quick in this draft (as seen by the types of pitchers that were there in the middle and late rounds).... 7 in a row were picked right in front of me and I had to take something. Was not about to reach and risk without potential though Best pick - Tie between Beckett in the 12th and Harden in the 14th... I don't think there is a real explaination necessary __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

03-05-2007, 01:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	Forgot to mention... normal 12 team league... normal scoring (5x5) __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

03-05-2007, 02:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	Main reason I went for Cordero first... was that Lidge was hidden down a little further on the list... knew people would forget about him... and they did As for Huff.... I figure he can be a value pick... if given full playing time he could be a .280/.290 guy with 25 HR and 90RBI... but I made sure I took some backup OF's I thought could contribute, and Edwin Encarnacion as another insurance policy __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

03-05-2007, 03:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	I would play Hermidia over Huff for the first couple of weeks until you see which Aubrey Huff is playing for the Os. I love your IF. As for the OF, if you aren't getting top tier talent the mid tiers are all basically the same, and interchangable. Not a big deal there. Is this roto or H2H, and if I missed it already, that's my bad __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

03-05-2007, 03:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	roto... 5x5 __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

03-05-2007, 01:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	It looks like you guys had an OF run because you were overdue for one. That's kind of late to have your first OF pick, so I assume most of the primo OFers were long gone while you were concentrating on other spots. No problems with that -- you actually did OK, although I might look to shore that OF up via trade. The same can be said for Pitching, too -- some people just like to pick SP's later than others. I like to get at least one solid contributor early and fill in with quality later (which it looks like you did with Peavy & Sheets). I agree that you got some good value in Beckett & Harden. Honestly, I don't get people who go with Closers so early. Yes, they are overvalued in Fantasy ball, but why inflate that even more? I don't like Cordero going before Lidge, even with Lidge's instability last season. Cordero is going to be overvalued on a Nats team that will be lucky to get him the ball in a Save situation. Watch out for Huff, too -- I'm not sure how much playing time he'll get.

03-06-2007, 01:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
645 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,134	Alright Double D, I know you been waiting for my option. Ok, It's a solid team but it don't excite me. you see when they are reaching for Outfielders there are players at the other positions that are droping more then they should and it give a good fantasy player to get a few great steels. So the best way to handle runs on a possition is takes as many of them good players that they are passing on to long and wait for the late rounds to make a few gambles to fill them spots. But I think you fail at that. I don't see not a one single players that where I can say theres a player that you got he later then when he sould be gone. But a nice team anyway.

03-06-2007, 02:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
Goose Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeen,Wa Posts: 1,190	I'm curious to see some of your teams 645. __________________

03-06-2007, 04:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
645 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,134	Sure Goose I have no Problem with that. I can do that so hopefully you learn something. Yeah but I have been trying to keep down the number of leagues I play in for I play too many and I want to play fewer so that I can forcus more on the ones I do play in. So I have been curefull with the Leagues I sign up for and only do ones that give me time to get ready. Sure I am ready to go but I have not yet Drafted but I'll go ahead and impress you when I do.

03-06-2007, 11:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	WTF? Did 645's little brother just start posting for him? That doesn't sound like you at all, man.

03-06-2007, 10:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
645 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,134	Noc, Your funny. Dave, What I'm saying is it starts with your pre-rankings. The closer you can get it to where each player is being drafted in a average draft or where they should be drafted the best off you will be. For when runs happen if you know the players that they should be drafting that is a big advantage. What I say is you shouldn't overpay for anyone. It's best to go with the few of the draft and not get cought up in the runs. The only winners of runs are those that stay out of them and the one who starts them. You got to take the draft in two parts. First part you got to just take the best players you can get without worry of the possitions as long as you don't take too many of one possition or bench hitters. Then once the draft gets to the point where the best Players are gone and only borderline proven players remain that when you take your guys your willing to gamble on to fill your few open spots. Encarnación might be good enough to start at utilty. Hermida might be good enough at start at Outfield. Your team would look better with Papelbon or Weeks. Maybe not Bonds though. Sure some of the guy you gamble may not pain out but that really isn't a problem for few reasons. 1) the guys that take all the outfielders will come to you when they find out they luck good infielders and pitchers and they see you have want they need. Sure you'll have to fight though the stupid offers but they will give in sooner or later. And 2) if your gambles don't pain out you can always drop them and pick up someone that is paining out. You just got to remenber after every draft there still is enough talent that remains available to win any league and all you have to do is find them before everyone else. You got to trust that you can find them.

03-06-2007, 11:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Honestly, I wasn't going for humor. I was serious when I said it didn't sound like you. Hey, you could have been in insulin shock or something, for all I knew.

03-06-2007, 11:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	LOL -- nevermind!! I just saw the time stamp on the post.

03-07-2007, 06:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	645 I've been drafting and playing fantasy baseball since the early 90's... I do think I am not clueless as to what I am doing... As for Papelbon??? PUH-LEASE...... going into the rotation, unproven at the ML level... that is a higher risk for a 5-10th round pick.... Weeks, I already had a 2B and Weeks does not qualify at a different position.... too soon to draft a 2nd player at a position unless that player is a certified stud, and that definition does not fit weeks..... Yes.... people CAN view you as a trade outlet after the corral numerous OF's.... BUT the thing is at THAT point is that they had not OVERDRAFTED OF's... rather had started filling their 2nd and 3rd OF slots.... I had Baldelli ranked pretty high anyway... I had just hoped to land him in the 8th or 9th, not the 7th.... I may have stretched ahead on him, but I got bargains in later rounds (Renteria, Harden, Encarnacion, etc) to make up for that stretch while the others were scrounding for middle infielders, starting pitchers, and catchers I trust that I found a good amount of the talented players hidden in the draft.. a few that I was drafting with also found some I was targeting, but that is going to happen... the Fantasy Baseball world is not filled with a bunch of idiots as much as the old days where homerism seemed to be prevalent on about 1/2 the teams and nobody looked past the all star teams or 2-5th places in the batting order __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.