Winners and Losers of the Keeper Daft

645 · March 12th, 2007, 08:42 PM

Steelerchic01
1- Peyton Manning
2- Torry Holt
3- Edgerrin James

Manning is the Best QuarterBack in the game and he has a few good years left in him. in the 2nd he got Holt who have been one of best Wide Recievers and James who may not be the best choice but he is a good receiving Running Back.

Outlook: Short Term Winner

Hellwig
1- LaDainian Tomlinson
2- Steve Smith
3- Drew Brees

He got the best Running Back that has a few good years remaining and one of the best Wide Recievers and one of the best Quarterbacks that a number of years left.

Outlook: Long Term Winner

unreal654
1- Larry Johnson
2- Marc Bulger
3- Marques Colston

He got a good running back that some years left and very good wide reciever who is at the start of his carrer but he pick a injury prone QB that wasn't great to begin with but alright.

Outlook: Short Term Winner but so-so in the long term.

DiamondDave
1- Steven Jackson
2- Willis McGahee
3- Marvin Harrison

He Got Jackson a top Running Back and McGahee who is going a good team and has a chance to reach what he can be and a top wide reciever.

Outlook: Long Term Winner

Sportycliche · March 12th, 2007, 08:58 PM

BMW is the winner to me:
Frank Gore: He might not be a long-term keeper, but he should be good for at least 3 more seasons.

Shaun Alexander: Had no reason to drop this far. He has been a top 5 fantasy RB for 5 seasons in a row prior to this one. His foot injury is not career threatening and should be good to bounce back to at least 2001-2004 status.

Chad Johnson: top 10 WR the past 4 seasons and a top 25 fantasy player as well the last 4 seasons

BMW · March 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM

Well I appreciate that, but Gore has a history of injuries that scares the living crap out of me...I loved getting Chad Johnson where I did, and to be honest I loved who is still left for the regular draft....

Sportycliche · March 12th, 2007, 09:05 PM

don't worry it scares the crap out of San Fran as well. He was a top 4 RB last season and with the Rbs still available in the regular draft, it might not be so bad if he gets hurt.

645 · March 12th, 2007, 09:15 PM

Sportycliche
1- Brian Westbrook
2- Travis Henry
3- Antonio Gates

He got Westbrook who has a few year remaining and Henry who might have a little left and Gates who has been great in the past but he wasn't as good last year and it may be becouse Brees is gone in San Diego who loves throwing to his tight ends but Gates still have something left.

Outlook: He didn't do too bad but alot of the others did better. So I would have to say he is one of the loser here.

LaxD
1- Carson Palmer
2- Kevin Jones
3-

He took a very Good Quarterback and questionable running Back and we still waiting on the third pick.

Outlook: Fantasy Football is win and lose with the Running Backs and he don't have that yet so tell he get it his team is a loser here.

BMW
1- Frank Gore
2- Shaun Alexander
3- Chad Johnson

He got Gore who is starting to reach his peak and Alexander who atless one very good season in him and a top wide reciever.

Outlook: Big Time short Term Winner and a long term winner.

SouthernPitbull
1- Joseph Addai
2- Rudi Johnson
3- Santana Moss

He got a very Good Running Back in Addai who finaly is going to get his chance and good Vetern Back in Johnson but not a great one and a so-so wide reciever.

Outlook: It is so-so for him. Can't really say if he is going to be a winner or loser here.

Sportycliche · March 12th, 2007, 09:24 PM

yeah gates was only the 16th best fantasy player last season and the drop from the top TE to the next TE is pretty huge compared to say WR or even RB (after top the 3 or so...)

Henry is in fantasy RB heaven and will get the majority of carries...and his 2 down seasons helps make him young 29 compared to say Larry Johnson.

Westbrook had a breakout year last season and is 28....

DiamondDave · March 12th, 2007, 09:30 PM

I still kick myself in the arse for telling Bryan it was cool to join the league... then him taking Alexander before I could after him dropping that far

He did well... very well... better than his draft position dictates, which is key... I will say he did better than I because of that....

I got Harrison in the 3rd, which is a steal... but Marvin is no spring chicken.... I will have to make up for that with keeper quality somewhere else in the suplimental/rest of the draft...

My initial plan was to have 3 RB's.... covering all bases... I was hoping to have Edge fall to me... but my plan was thwarted... I have my strategy set for the rest of the draft... we'll just see who messes up my system and if I adjust enough because of it

645 · March 12th, 2007, 09:51 PM

EaglesFan
1- Ronnie Brown
2- Clinton Portis
3- Cadillac Williams

He got Brown who have been good so far but not great and I don't think he has proven himself yet. Portis who I question his future value and Williams who also hasn't proven yet.

Outlook: I have to say he comes out of the Keeper draft as a loser here.

645
1- Laurence Maroney
2- Maurice Jones-Drew
3- Tom Brady

I got 2 of the most exciting young Running Backs that are going to be elite running backs for years to come and one of the top QB that has a few years left in him.

Outlook: The fact I may be set at both Running Back spots with guys that could be there for the next 8 or 9 years at there age makes me a big long term winner out of the draft.

aCutb
1- Reggie Bush
2- Cedric Benson
3- Andre Johnson

He got 2 good Running Backs and a so-so Wide Reciever.

Outlook: I would think he is a short term Loser here but a long term Winner.

TITANFAN
1- Willie Parker
2- Vince Young
3- Reggie Wayne

I got a good Running Back and a QB that should have future value and alright Wide Reciver.

Outlook: His picks don't stand out here so he may be a loser here.

DiamondDave · March 13th, 2007, 04:39 AM

1) I would hardly speculate that Drew is going to be a 'future elite back'
2) Andre Johnson is way more than a so-so WR.... If not for a horrid offensive line, his numbers that are already near the top of the league in yards and receptions would have been even greater

It is weird how you are willing to stand at the end of a limb and make unproven assumptions in a positive light for your young backs, but when someone else has one (Ronnie Brown, for example) you are out there just as far on a limb with an inherent negative light

BMW · March 13th, 2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 645

EaglesFan
1- Ronnie Brown
2- Clinton Portis
3- Cadillac Williams

He got Brown who have been good so far but not great and I don't think he has proven himself yet. Portis who I question his future value and Williams who also hasn't proven yet.

Outlook: I have to say he comes out of the Keeper draft as a loser here.

645
1- Laurence Maroney
2- Maurice Jones-Drew
3- Tom Brady

I got 2 of the most exciting young Running Backs that are going to be elite running backs for years to come and one of the top QB that has a few years left in him.

Outlook: The fact I may be set at both Running Back spots with guys that could be there for the next 8 or 9 years at there age makes me a big long term winner out of the draft.

I'm not sure what else Brown has to do to prove himself, I mean if they can get a passing game around him, he's going to EXPLODE, and until then, he will still improve and be a very good back. He had a pretty good year for the first time carrying the load by himself. I wouldn't expect much more out of Maroney than what Brown did last season.

I would also make the comparison of Jones-Drew to Cadillac, who had a couple of big games, but again he was splitting the load with Fred Taylor. All four backs are very similar, only that Cadillac and Ronnie have an extra year of experience...

And I think it is absolutely absurd to predict 8 to 9 years for anyone much less a Running Back, of all positions, in the NFL, of all leagues. I could understand predicting 8 to 9 years for an OF or a 1B, but anything else in any other league is just way too unpredictable.

aCutb · March 13th, 2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 645

aCutb
1- Reggie Bush
2- Cedric Benson
3- Andre Johnson

He got 2 good Running Backs and a so-so Wide Reciever.

Outlook: I would think he is a short term Loser here but a long term Winner.

Other than you calling Andre Johnson a so-so receiver, I like your 2explanation for my team. I agree that I will probably won't have a top finish in this league next year, but in 2008 and on my team will be dangerous.

March 12th, 2007, 08:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
645 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,349	Winners and Losers of the Keeper Daft Steelerchic01 1- Peyton Manning 2- Torry Holt 3- Edgerrin James Manning is the Best QuarterBack in the game and he has a few good years left in him. in the 2nd he got Holt who have been one of best Wide Recievers and James who may not be the best choice but he is a good receiving Running Back. Outlook: Short Term Winner Hellwig 1- LaDainian Tomlinson 2- Steve Smith 3- Drew Brees He got the best Running Back that has a few good years remaining and one of the best Wide Recievers and one of the best Quarterbacks that a number of years left. Outlook: Long Term Winner unreal654 1- Larry Johnson 2- Marc Bulger 3- Marques Colston He got a good running back that some years left and very good wide reciever who is at the start of his carrer but he pick a injury prone QB that wasn't great to begin with but alright. Outlook: Short Term Winner but so-so in the long term. DiamondDave 1- Steven Jackson 2- Willis McGahee 3- Marvin Harrison He Got Jackson a top Running Back and McGahee who is going a good team and has a chance to reach what he can be and a top wide reciever. Outlook: Long Term Winner

March 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
BMW Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Coral Florida Posts: 830	Well I appreciate that, but Gore has a history of injuries that scares the living crap out of me...I loved getting Chad Johnson where I did, and to be honest I loved who is still left for the regular draft.... __________________ BMW Green Bay Packers 14-4

March 12th, 2007, 09:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	I still kick myself in the arse for telling Bryan it was cool to join the league... then him taking Alexander before I could after him dropping that far He did well... very well... better than his draft position dictates, which is key... I will say he did better than I because of that.... I got Harrison in the 3rd, which is a steal... but Marvin is no spring chicken.... I will have to make up for that with keeper quality somewhere else in the suplimental/rest of the draft... My initial plan was to have 3 RB's.... covering all bases... I was hoping to have Edge fall to me... but my plan was thwarted... I have my strategy set for the rest of the draft... we'll just see who messes up my system and if I adjust enough because of it __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

March 13th, 2007, 04:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	1) I would hardly speculate that Drew is going to be a 'future elite back' 2) Andre Johnson is way more than a so-so WR.... If not for a horrid offensive line, his numbers that are already near the top of the league in yards and receptions would have been even greater It is weird how you are willing to stand at the end of a limb and make unproven assumptions in a positive light for your young backs, but when someone else has one (Ronnie Brown, for example) you are out there just as far on a limb with an inherent negative light __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

March 12th, 2007, 08:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sportycliche Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 143	BMW is the winner to me: Frank Gore: He might not be a long-term keeper, but he should be good for at least 3 more seasons. Shaun Alexander: Had no reason to drop this far. He has been a top 5 fantasy RB for 5 seasons in a row prior to this one. His foot injury is not career threatening and should be good to bounce back to at least 2001-2004 status. Chad Johnson: top 10 WR the past 4 seasons and a top 25 fantasy player as well the last 4 seasons

March 12th, 2007, 09:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sportycliche Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 143	don't worry it scares the crap out of San Fran as well. He was a top 4 RB last season and with the Rbs still available in the regular draft, it might not be so bad if he gets hurt.

March 12th, 2007, 09:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
645 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,349	Sportycliche 1- Brian Westbrook 2- Travis Henry 3- Antonio Gates He got Westbrook who has a few year remaining and Henry who might have a little left and Gates who has been great in the past but he wasn't as good last year and it may be becouse Brees is gone in San Diego who loves throwing to his tight ends but Gates still have something left. Outlook: He didn't do too bad but alot of the others did better. So I would have to say he is one of the loser here. LaxD 1- Carson Palmer 2- Kevin Jones 3- He took a very Good Quarterback and questionable running Back and we still waiting on the third pick. Outlook: Fantasy Football is win and lose with the Running Backs and he don't have that yet so tell he get it his team is a loser here. BMW 1- Frank Gore 2- Shaun Alexander 3- Chad Johnson He got Gore who is starting to reach his peak and Alexander who atless one very good season in him and a top wide reciever. Outlook: Big Time short Term Winner and a long term winner. SouthernPitbull 1- Joseph Addai 2- Rudi Johnson 3- Santana Moss He got a very Good Running Back in Addai who finaly is going to get his chance and good Vetern Back in Johnson but not a great one and a so-so wide reciever. Outlook: It is so-so for him. Can't really say if he is going to be a winner or loser here.

March 12th, 2007, 09:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sportycliche Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carrollton, GA Posts: 143	yeah gates was only the 16th best fantasy player last season and the drop from the top TE to the next TE is pretty huge compared to say WR or even RB (after top the 3 or so...) Henry is in fantasy RB heaven and will get the majority of carries...and his 2 down seasons helps make him young 29 compared to say Larry Johnson. Westbrook had a breakout year last season and is 28....

March 12th, 2007, 09:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
645 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 6,349	EaglesFan 1- Ronnie Brown 2- Clinton Portis 3- Cadillac Williams He got Brown who have been good so far but not great and I don't think he has proven himself yet. Portis who I question his future value and Williams who also hasn't proven yet. Outlook: I have to say he comes out of the Keeper draft as a loser here. 645 1- Laurence Maroney 2- Maurice Jones-Drew 3- Tom Brady I got 2 of the most exciting young Running Backs that are going to be elite running backs for years to come and one of the top QB that has a few years left in him. Outlook: The fact I may be set at both Running Back spots with guys that could be there for the next 8 or 9 years at there age makes me a big long term winner out of the draft. aCutb 1- Reggie Bush 2- Cedric Benson 3- Andre Johnson He got 2 good Running Backs and a so-so Wide Reciever. Outlook: I would think he is a short term Loser here but a long term Winner. TITANFAN 1- Willie Parker 2- Vince Young 3- Reggie Wayne I got a good Running Back and a QB that should have future value and alright Wide Reciver. Outlook: His picks don't stand out here so he may be a loser here.