Beer - More than just Hops, Malt, Yeast and Water - Page 4

SamJ · January 27th, 2007, 10:34 PM

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but I have been hard pressed to find a beer that I don't like

Obviously, you've never had a Schaffer.... the dishwater of bottled beer.

I tend to prefer the darks and ambers like Newcastle among others.... damn the carbs.

btw, I've had a phone interview with Miller brewing for a job in Irwindale, CA. Hope they don't ask preference questions if I get an on site.

Tex · January 28th, 2007, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocahoma

VIOLATION!! Coors Light is not beer. Coors Light is officially classified as "Sex in a Canoe."

I actually a found some of one of my favorites from Germany -- König Ludwig Weissbier, but it tastes nowhere near as good over here. Now, if I can just find their Dunkelweiss....

I saw this at the class VI, I will have to pick some up on my next trip

Nocahoma · January 28th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Class VI? ¿Que es eso?

Anyway, you'll love it, although it's likely nowhere NEAR as good as it is over there.

Here's my hand enjoying one in Bavaria!

bedir than average · January 28th, 2007, 11:47 AM

The Class VI is the store on any DoD base that sells alcohol. Usually has a much better variety than the offbase stores, as the Class VI does not need to follow state/local import/export laws. This leads to a much more diverse selection. Also considering that so many of the service members have served overseas the Class VI can bring in a wider variety of international brews as they will sell more than say a store in Clarksville, TN.

and steeple, I think that one who lives in Oregon, Washington and likely Colorado could live off of those beers alone.

Nocahoma · January 28th, 2007, 11:56 AM

Bedir,
Have I mentioned that my Birthday is coming up in less than a month??

bedir than average · January 28th, 2007, 12:00 PM

If you are dropping that thinking I have Class VI access, I don't. Those days are done for me, like a life nearly forgotten.

Nocahoma · January 28th, 2007, 12:57 PM

Nat · January 29th, 2007, 09:46 PM

I'm not a beer snob, mainly go for a S.A Boston Lager or Guinness (bottled or tap, it's all good). Don't care for these West Coast microbrews & their sour aftertaste (Anchor, Sierra, etc). Gordon Bierch makes a crisp golden lager, and this new Berkeley company Trumer is pushing its pilsner hard...

Incidentally, I think it was Fanhome a few years ago where someone reproduced a worldwide beer sales-by-label listing which I found quite interesting (Bud & Bud Light were #1 & 2

). Anyone know where I can find an updated version? Google provided nothing...

Nocahoma · January 30th, 2007, 12:28 AM

Nat,
You are referring to the taste of the Hops used in the brewing. Extra hops ("hoppiness") provide a characteristic bite to a brew. I happen to like it most of the time, but it's not always what I'm in the mood to taste. It's OK to have a preference, man.

Anyway, I think you'll find that many beers brewed by those same people do NOT have the same levels of hoppiness to them. Try the lagers and (some) pilsners made by those same folks, or look at brown ales & stouts.

TST · February 12th, 2007, 07:07 AM

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This is a great listing of quality beers. Unfortunately, my personaly favorite (Westvleteren) just got overtaken by a Swedish beer i have never heard of.

Top Cat · February 12th, 2007, 08:40 AM

Typically easily available...Alaskan Amber in an often overlooked jewel.

bedir than average · February 12th, 2007, 09:02 AM

It shouldn't be by anyone with a Costco membership. When you can get a microbrew for less than 1$ a bottle, why wouldn't you?

rrandom · February 12th, 2007, 05:39 PM

Another thing to keep in mind is that the hops will have different effects on the beer depending on when in the process they are added. You control whether the hops will contribute to the initial smell/nose of the beer, the flavor of it, or a lingering aftertaste. Depending on the style of the beer and the preference of the brewer, there can be a great many points over the course of brewing when hops are added. And, of course, different hops have vastly different smells, tastes, levels of bitterness, etc.

Nighthawk · February 12th, 2007, 06:29 PM

Excellent point, rrandom.

I myself am an unapologetic beer snob...with the caveat that as a borderline alcoholic I reserve the right to resort to swill whenever I feel the need.

Having said that, my current focus is strong ales, leading up to and including barleywines (which are, of course, strictly speaking ales). Avery's Beast is worth a look, as well as much of what Dogfish Head (my fave brewery) cranks out. The bigger, the better, and not just the booze. A well crafted monster ale is strong, yes...but it takes a master craftsman to be able to cut the booze with that much flavor to make you forget what you're drinking.

I'm not a hops-head, but in a well balanced big bear it's heaven. Case in point...if you can get a bottle of Dogfish Head's 120 minute (not the 90 or 60!) IPA, it's a classic example of huge hops which beautifully cut the malt and sugar of this powerful (nearly 20 percent!) brew. Definately not a session brew, but worth the 10-15 bucks a bottle. More layers of flavor than many wines I've had, and worth the trouble.

Nocahoma · February 12th, 2007, 07:39 PM

Have you had their Champagne Ale, NH? I have been to the Dogfish Head brewery in Delaware -- it was pretty sweet.

January 28th, 2007, 11:47 AM	#49 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	The Class VI is the store on any DoD base that sells alcohol. Usually has a much better variety than the offbase stores, as the Class VI does not need to follow state/local import/export laws. This leads to a much more diverse selection. Also considering that so many of the service members have served overseas the Class VI can bring in a wider variety of international brews as they will sell more than say a store in Clarksville, TN. and steeple, I think that one who lives in Oregon, Washington and likely Colorado could live off of those beers alone. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

January 28th, 2007, 12:00 PM	#51 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	If you are dropping that thinking I have Class VI access, I don't. Those days are done for me, like a life nearly forgotten. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 12th, 2007, 09:02 AM	#57 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	It shouldn't be by anyone with a Costco membership. When you can get a microbrew for less than 1$ a bottle, why wouldn't you? __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

February 12th, 2007, 06:29 PM	#59 (permalink)
Nighthawk Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,716	Excellent point, rrandom. I myself am an unapologetic beer snob...with the caveat that as a borderline alcoholic I reserve the right to resort to swill whenever I feel the need. Having said that, my current focus is strong ales, leading up to and including barleywines (which are, of course, strictly speaking ales). Avery's Beast is worth a look, as well as much of what Dogfish Head (my fave brewery) cranks out. The bigger, the better, and not just the booze. A well crafted monster ale is strong, yes...but it takes a master craftsman to be able to cut the booze with that much flavor to make you forget what you're drinking. I'm not a hops-head, but in a well balanced big bear it's heaven. Case in point...if you can get a bottle of Dogfish Head's 120 minute (not the 90 or 60!) IPA, it's a classic example of huge hops which beautifully cut the malt and sugar of this powerful (nearly 20 percent!) brew. Definately not a session brew, but worth the 10-15 bucks a bottle. More layers of flavor than many wines I've had, and worth the trouble. __________________ "Whenever the word 'fair' features so prominently in legislation, the odds are that it is economically illiterate" -Rich Lowery What am I doing with your tax money? Sustaining the realm according to caprice.

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January 28th, 2007, 11:43 AM	#48 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Class VI? ¿Que es eso? Anyway, you'll love it, although it's likely nowhere NEAR as good as it is over there. Here's my hand enjoying one in Bavaria!

January 28th, 2007, 11:56 AM	#50 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Bedir, Have I mentioned that my Birthday is coming up in less than a month??

January 28th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#52 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238

January 29th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#53 (permalink)
Nat Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,353	I'm not a beer snob, mainly go for a S.A Boston Lager or Guinness (bottled or tap, it's all good). Don't care for these West Coast microbrews & their sour aftertaste (Anchor, Sierra, etc). Gordon Bierch makes a crisp golden lager, and this new Berkeley company Trumer is pushing its pilsner hard... Incidentally, I think it was Fanhome a few years ago where someone reproduced a worldwide beer sales-by-label listing which I found quite interesting (Bud & Bud Light were #1 & 2 ). Anyone know where I can find an updated version? Google provided nothing...

January 30th, 2007, 12:28 AM	#54 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Nat, You are referring to the taste of the Hops used in the brewing. Extra hops ("hoppiness") provide a characteristic bite to a brew. I happen to like it most of the time, but it's not always what I'm in the mood to taste. It's OK to have a preference, man. Anyway, I think you'll find that many beers brewed by those same people do NOT have the same levels of hoppiness to them. Try the lagers and (some) pilsners made by those same folks, or look at brown ales & stouts.

February 12th, 2007, 07:07 AM	#55 (permalink)
TST Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 22	Beer Ratings, brewer, brewpub, bar, beer reviews and more This is a great listing of quality beers. Unfortunately, my personaly favorite (Westvleteren) just got overtaken by a Swedish beer i have never heard of.

February 12th, 2007, 08:40 AM	#56 (permalink)
Top Cat Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bellingham Posts: 2,309	Typically easily available...Alaskan Amber in an often overlooked jewel.

February 12th, 2007, 05:39 PM	#58 (permalink)
rrandom Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 65	Another thing to keep in mind is that the hops will have different effects on the beer depending on when in the process they are added. You control whether the hops will contribute to the initial smell/nose of the beer, the flavor of it, or a lingering aftertaste. Depending on the style of the beer and the preference of the brewer, there can be a great many points over the course of brewing when hops are added. And, of course, different hops have vastly different smells, tastes, levels of bitterness, etc.

February 12th, 2007, 07:39 PM	#60 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Have you had their Champagne Ale, NH? I have been to the Dogfish Head brewery in Delaware -- it was pretty sweet.