YOUR tax money.

[SugarBaby]

Originally Posted by AlexdeLarge

Typical southener, walking around with their head up their a$$ all their life

Least I don't have my head up some slimey Democrat's a$$.

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by SugarBaby

Y'all don't have the sense to get in out of a shower of rain.

But I do know rain when I see it.

[AlexdeLarge]

I think your time as a good Repblican could be better spent on figuring out a way you can fix this election like you did the last two

[DiamondDave]

Originally Posted by jtur88

DD, do you think that 800-billion will be in addition to what we are currently paying to private health insurers, who will keep on collecting from us? Or will the people who pay that 800-billion in taxes be able to stop paying it to the insurance companies?

The 800BIL is probably a low ball estimate....

and again.. .this will not be an equal tax to each person either... nor will it be efficient in spending with the bureaucratic crap that is inherent in the government

I guarantee you that my tax increase would be more than the amount I pay every month to pay for my insurance now

[DiamondDave]

Originally Posted by FiveStars

Better than a $2 Trillion war.

Military and national defense are something the government is charged with... not being mommy and kissing boo-boos

[SugarBaby]

Originally Posted by AlexdeLarge

I think your time as a good Repblican could be better spent on figuring out a way you can fix this election like you did the last two

I'm not a Republican.

[AlexdeLarge]

You act like one. Any person that in their own mind thinks Bill Clinton wasn't a good President must have Repblican blood flowing through their veins or else they must be a fool

[DiamondDave]

He wasn't as bad as a Carter... but I would hardly call him a good President...

I'll tell you... being active duty military within his regime... he was a hated president within the ranks.... his horrid record toward the military would make him average at best.... and when I count many other things that I found him lacking at, I place him as a below average prez

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by DiamondDave

I guarantee you that my tax increase would be more than the amount I pay every month to pay for my insurance now

Of course, as usual, you are only thinking of yourself, and what is good for DD is good for America.

"This year, the average annual premium for single coverage is $4,242, of which workers pay $627, up from $610 in 2005. Family coverage costs an average of $11,480, with workers paying $2,973 annually, up from $2,713 last year." (Health Insurance Premiums Continue to Soar )

You are actually paying $11,480, with only 2,713 coming directly out of your pocket, and the rest is paid by you, with your employer just giving the money to the insurance company instead of in your pay envelope. The fact that you are in such a high bracket that a small income tax increase would cost you over 11K means that you are being very selfish to demand that you should get to keep all that, too. You are guaranteeing that your tax increase will be more than 11K---do I understand that correctly?

[DiamondDave]

yep.... for the DEMs will not ensure that if this DOES happen, that EVERYONE pays the same EXACT amount for their healthcare.... it will come down to the Robin Hood theory that they love SO much.... that everyone else is OWED healthcare from those who earn more income

And what is good or earned by DD is not earned by the rest of America to put their hands into to pay for something that they can receive themselves from their employment

And if you think I do not take bennies into account when choosing between jobs, you are sadly mistaken... I could earn more and I would ask for more if I had to pay for my own bennies as a person choosing to work contract jobs continually

and with a US population of ~303,430,021.... 11K or so per person (but it would certainly be higher because of govt bureaucracy) for healthcare would be how much to pay out??? I certainly do not think it is 2500 or so per person per year for healthcare to get to the supposed 800BIL

[heyterry]

The election was fixed?

Sorry, some of the democrats in Florida were just too stupid to punch a chad from a ballot.

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by DiamondDave

(but it would certainly be higher because of govt bureaucracy)

Yes, there is no bureaucracy in thousands of insurance companies all requiring that different sets of forms be filled by doctors billing offices. And there is no bureaucracy in doctors offices where billing clerks try to keep track of which patient is covered by which insurer and which treatments that insurer A or B or C is covering this month and which ones they will add or remove from the list of covered expenses next month and how much their copay is.

[DiamondDave]

In private practice, there is competition... what competition is there in bureaucracy?

[SugarBaby]

Originally Posted by DiamondDave

In private practice, there is competition... what competition is there in bureaucracy?

God help us if we are forced into universal healthcare.

[jtur88]

Originally Posted by DiamondDave

In private practice, there is competition... what competition is there in bureaucracy?

Ever heard of price-fixing? Ever wonder why so many oil companies all turned in record profits the same year?

It is amazing how many people believe that those with unimaginably huge amounts of money are the most trustworthy. The people who are most likely to be fair in business dealings.

Since you don't already know this, I'll pass it along. A health care provider is not in business to provide health care. It is in business to extract massive profits from people who need health care.

So now, competition is your magic bullet, and competition is the only ingredient necessary for any enterprise to be perfect. Even if it is some phony appearance of competition by people who are colluding to manpulate the marketplace. Just slap the 'competition' label on it, and nothing else matters.