Celebrity Apprentice

djwhokid · January 3rd, 2008, 11:04 PM

Here are how the teams were divided in the first show:

Men: Hydra
Trace Adkins
Stephen Baldwin
Lennox Lewis
Piers Morgan
Tito Ortiz
Vincent Pastore
Gene Simmons

Female: Empressario
Carol Alt
Nadia Camaneci
Jennie Finch
Nely Galan
Marilu Henner
Omarosa
Tiffany Fallon

Episode 1 recap: The boys cleaned up in the hot dog selling competition. The men used their celebrity status and got large donations. Ah, no cameo from Alec Baldwin? We did get to see Jenna Jameson.

Omarosa wanted to use her business skills and not sex appeal or celebrity status. Despite some help from David Wright, they got blown out. The boys made $52,286, the girls only made $17,038.79.

IMO Omarosa should have been fired however Tiffany, the former playmate of the year was fired for not using her personal contact, Hugh Heff.

Piers Morgan is annoying. He wouldn't sell hot dogs to people with less than $10. What an arrogant prick. Lennox Lewis and Tito Ortiz looked like typical jocks, clueless.

Gene Simmons could be the superstar of the show but in the preview for next weeks show they showed him insulting Donald Trump's daughter... ugh oh!

djwhokid · January 4th, 2008, 01:01 AM

Bah! I am really disappointed in this cast.

These are C-list celebrities. Man, I really wish Rosie O'Donnell didn't turn this show down.

Are you telling me the biggest actor Donald Trump could find is Big *****?
I would have founded 7 young celebrities (under 40) and had them go against 7 older celebrities.

Here would be my hypothetical celebrity apprentice (realistic):

Team A:
Gene Simmons
Bill O'Reilly
Charles Barkley
Simon Cowell
Kathy Griffin
Star Jones
Sharon Osbourne

Team B:
Mary-Kate + Ashley Olsen (they count as 1)
Gisele or some other famous model/playmate
Sarah Silverman
Heather Mitts or Jennie Finch
Frankie Muniz
Sean "P Diddy" Combs or Ludacris (imagine him vs. Bill O)
Dave Chappelle or some other funny comedian like Chris Tucker, Chris Rock.

AlexdeLarge · January 4th, 2008, 04:43 AM

who cares, reality TV is the PITS

bedir than average · January 4th, 2008, 10:31 AM

Totally a production decision to go with keeping Omorrosa. She's only there to create division.

As for the level of celebrity, this is the first "celebrity" reality show where I've known more than half the candidates. The producers have some fairly big names - Lennox Lewis and Tito Ortiz aren't C listers.

Zen653 · January 4th, 2008, 11:32 AM

I'm going to predict a victory for Lennox Lewis. Network television will want a minority to win and Omarosa already had her day in the sun.

skrable · January 4th, 2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen653

Network television will want a minority to win ....

You've said a lot of intellectually questionable things in your time, but this one is a head-scratcher. There have been countless reality shows and game shows on "network tv" and there seems to be very little pattern in the gender, race, religion or ethnic background of the winners.

What are you basing this claim on? Signals received from your tinfoil beanie?

Zen653 · January 4th, 2008, 12:10 PM

Most of the reality shows require objective competitions where it's more difficult to manipulate the results. The Apprentice is entirely subjective. This makes it easier to pick the politically correct choice.

Look at the list of six winners: two white males, two white females, one black male, one Arab. We're either due for another black male (Lennox Lewis), our first Hispanic (Tito Ortiz), a woman of color (to even out the 4-2 male/female disparity) or a Jew (Gene Simmons.) Once all the minority bases are covered, then we'll get another white man.

bedir than average · January 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM

Totally subjective in Zens world is "who made the most money"

Zen653 · January 4th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Totally subjective in Zens world is "who made the most money"

The participants are broken into teams. The firing of each team member is entirely subjective. So-and-so didn't show good leadership skills, so-and-so was too lazy, so-and-so was difficult to work with, etc.

It's naive to think that actual skill is the only thing that determines the results. From Day 1, you're dealing with a socially engineered group of contestants designed to reflect the overall demographics of the U.S. You have about as many males as females, and about as many blacks, Hispanics and Asians (by percentage) as you would find in the general population.

I'm not saying there's necessarily anything wrong with this formula. It is what it is, and I understand the purpose behind it. I just find it laughable that people think these shows are an actual meritocracy. They're politically correct popularity contests manipulated to achieve maximum ratings.

apicalbodscan · January 4th, 2008, 09:06 PM

Why would anyone pay to see Donald trump? What a blithering bag of BS.

Jay · January 8th, 2008, 10:43 AM

Gene Simmons is a rediculous businessman. I'd be surprised if he didn't win.

DiamondDave · January 8th, 2008, 11:09 AM

With his ego against Trump's ego though.... I don't think he will last long

Wiggen · January 8th, 2008, 11:22 AM

I remain amazed that anybody watches this. The first one was sort of interesting, but it's been a steep and steady decline since.

SugarBaby · January 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM

I've never watched a single reality show.

DiamondDave · January 8th, 2008, 04:53 PM

I am just giving an opinion based on what we know about the egos of both Gene Simmons and Donald Trump... and what we have all heard about the previous seasons of "the Apprentice"... I am not a reality show guy

January 4th, 2008, 04:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
AlexdeLarge Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,409	who cares, reality TV is the PITS __________________ I've been a bad boy again Now I've been a bad boy again And all the trouble that I'm in Makes me a bad boy again John Prine

January 4th, 2008, 10:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Totally a production decision to go with keeping Omorrosa. She's only there to create division. As for the level of celebrity, this is the first "celebrity" reality show where I've known more than half the candidates. The producers have some fairly big names - Lennox Lewis and Tito Ortiz aren't C listers. __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

January 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
bedir than average Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,258	Totally subjective in Zens world is "who made the most money" __________________ I'm sorry I left for a while. I needed a vaction, and then work changed substantially. I'm over 50 hour weeks, plus two hours a day of commuting time. A few weeks ago I launched my own blog about Seattle Sounders FC and Life in Puget Sound. I won't be by these parts often as my focus has changed. Sorry about the unannounced retirement.

January 8th, 2008, 11:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	With his ego against Trump's ego though.... I don't think he will last long __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

January 8th, 2008, 04:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
DiamondDave Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MD, on the Potomac River Posts: 5,390	I am just giving an opinion based on what we know about the egos of both Gene Simmons and Donald Trump... and what we have all heard about the previous seasons of "the Apprentice"... I am not a reality show guy __________________ Reagan in 08... Even though he's dead, he's the better choice! Superdelegates - Because even the Democratic party knows it's base is too stupid to make really important decisions.

January 4th, 2008, 11:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Zen653 Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,282	I'm going to predict a victory for Lennox Lewis. Network television will want a minority to win and Omarosa already had her day in the sun.

January 4th, 2008, 12:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Zen653 Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,282	Most of the reality shows require objective competitions where it's more difficult to manipulate the results. The Apprentice is entirely subjective. This makes it easier to pick the politically correct choice. Look at the list of six winners: two white males, two white females, one black male, one Arab. We're either due for another black male (Lennox Lewis), our first Hispanic (Tito Ortiz), a woman of color (to even out the 4-2 male/female disparity) or a Jew (Gene Simmons.) Once all the minority bases are covered, then we'll get another white man.

January 4th, 2008, 09:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
apicalbodscan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,448	Why would anyone pay to see Donald trump? What a blithering bag of BS.

January 8th, 2008, 10:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jay Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester/Buffalo Posts: 21	Gene Simmons is a rediculous businessman. I'd be surprised if he didn't win.

January 8th, 2008, 11:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
Wiggen Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,287	I remain amazed that anybody watches this. The first one was sort of interesting, but it's been a steep and steady decline since.

January 8th, 2008, 03:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
SugarBaby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,114	I've never watched a single reality show.