giants at rockies

indianadrew · 04-16-2007, 08:13 PM

why is barry wearing #42 tonight?

hiaspire · 04-16-2007, 09:15 PM

For those who focus on Hurdle being stuborn and inflexible as things go bad, he's removed the pricey off-season setup man from his 8th inning role now. For someone they had put a lot of personnel decision-making faith and investment into at a self-described critical area, that was a fairly quick change in mid-April.

I didn't view Zito as drastically negative as most (not just here but also in most analytical places). Wish he wasn't doing it against us tonight, but believe he'll see more nights like tonight throughout the rest of the season in making the favorable switch to the NL.

BigRapidsJackass · 04-16-2007, 10:07 PM

Well, if you're going to throw a stinker, Jeff Francis, you might as well do it on a night when your offense is getting shut out.

What's bothering me now: if Hurdle hadn't gotten that idiotic contract extension, I'd be getting pretty pumped up right about now, waiting for the axe to come down.

As it is, Monfort has given me absolutely no reason to even pay attention.

Newman · 04-16-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by indianadrew

why is barry wearing #42 tonight?

Because the Giants were rained out yesterday in Pittsburgh.

At least Barry didn't homer. Missed it by that much.

Latroy has been demoted to the 7th inning? Is that right? Didn't seem to matter much tonite.

BigRapidsJackass · 04-16-2007, 11:08 PM

Newman, I just don't get that 7th/8th inning distinction. If the Rockies are ahead after 6, is it somehow better lose the lead in the 7th instead of the 8th? So LaTroy will blow the lead in the 7th, and then Hurdle won't even need to use his setup guy, Corpas, at all?

In other words, if Hurdle believes LaTroy is pitching like crap, shouldn't LaTroy be relegated to middle relief or mop-up roles?

TheIncredibleRox · 04-17-2007, 12:18 AM

Screw middle relief. Can we demote him to batting practice? (Which the Giants took during the game today)

Newman · 04-17-2007, 07:45 AM

Hey, Hurdle got the extension, right? He must know what he's doing?

Yeah, when exactly is the right time to insert Hawkins so he can blow the lead? Damn good question.

We could save money by cutting LaTroy and using the batting practice pitcher in the 7th? Just a thought.

I don't understand why Hurdle played Hawpe in RF yesterday instead of righty hitting Baker. Zito has one of the best curveballs in baseball. Granted Hawpe got a hit and Baker was 0-5 the day before, but still?

But Hurdle is our manager for life. Who are we to question his moves?

DieHardRoxFan · 04-17-2007, 05:24 PM

The Cooler says "Now is not the time to panic". Announced crowd of 18,000 last night looked more like 4 or 5 thousand. The Monfort's killed the golden goose and are now pissing on the grave. I normally go to 5 or 6 games a year but the Monfort's will get no more of my money. The Rockies have become irrelevant. I love the game so will continue to watch the development of the youngsters but I don't think the Rockies will have a winning record anytime soon with this bunch of Bozos running the show.

BigRapidsJackass · 04-17-2007, 08:49 PM

Willy T. starts it off tonight in the usual way -- STRIKEOUT!

5 for 38 on the year, 4 BB, 11 K, 3 SB, 2 CS

Oh, how I miss Choo Freeman ...

BigRapidsJackass · 04-17-2007, 09:33 PM

Matt Cain goes headhunting.

Who will do the honors for the Rockies? My vote: Affeldt.

Dante Bichette · 04-17-2007, 11:25 PM

Well, I had all kinds of sarcastic things to say about this team and this game tonight, but now I will have to save them for another time. That was a good win and a nice comeback, something we have shown absolutely no ability to do until this point.

BigRapidsJackass · 04-18-2007, 12:16 AM

About time for the bats to bust out. For a while there I was afraid that Tavares getting picked off would be the difference in this game. And how 'bout that Steve Finley ...

... that Tulo leaping grab in the 9th was beautiful.

Dante Bichette · 04-18-2007, 01:20 AM

Speaking of the Tavares nap, why is it that the Rockies seem to always do stupid things? We get picked off base, pitchers ignore base runners, hitters swing at the first pitch in important situations, outfielders (mostly Holiday) throw to the wrong base, bunt attempts are frequently popped up?

I know I blame Hurdle for a lot of things, but isn't it ultimately the managers job to teach the players the correct way to play the game? Or, at the very least, shouldn't he hold them accountable for their mistakes?

04-16-2007, 08:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
indianadrew Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: indianapolis Posts: 570	giants at rockies why is barry wearing #42 tonight?

04-16-2007, 09:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
hiaspire Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 479	For those who focus on Hurdle being stuborn and inflexible as things go bad, he's removed the pricey off-season setup man from his 8th inning role now. For someone they had put a lot of personnel decision-making faith and investment into at a self-described critical area, that was a fairly quick change in mid-April. I didn't view Zito as drastically negative as most (not just here but also in most analytical places). Wish he wasn't doing it against us tonight, but believe he'll see more nights like tonight throughout the rest of the season in making the favorable switch to the NL.

04-16-2007, 10:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,147	Well, if you're going to throw a stinker, Jeff Francis, you might as well do it on a night when your offense is getting shut out. What's bothering me now: if Hurdle hadn't gotten that idiotic contract extension, I'd be getting pretty pumped up right about now, waiting for the axe to come down. As it is, Monfort has given me absolutely no reason to even pay attention.

04-16-2007, 11:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,147	Newman, I just don't get that 7th/8th inning distinction. If the Rockies are ahead after 6, is it somehow better lose the lead in the 7th instead of the 8th? So LaTroy will blow the lead in the 7th, and then Hurdle won't even need to use his setup guy, Corpas, at all? In other words, if Hurdle believes LaTroy is pitching like crap, shouldn't LaTroy be relegated to middle relief or mop-up roles?

04-17-2007, 12:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
TheIncredibleRox Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 285	Screw middle relief. Can we demote him to batting practice? (Which the Giants took during the game today)

04-17-2007, 07:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Newman Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Aurora Posts: 553	Hey, Hurdle got the extension, right? He must know what he's doing? Yeah, when exactly is the right time to insert Hawkins so he can blow the lead? Damn good question. We could save money by cutting LaTroy and using the batting practice pitcher in the 7th? Just a thought. I don't understand why Hurdle played Hawpe in RF yesterday instead of righty hitting Baker. Zito has one of the best curveballs in baseball. Granted Hawpe got a hit and Baker was 0-5 the day before, but still? But Hurdle is our manager for life. Who are we to question his moves?

04-17-2007, 05:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
DieHardRoxFan Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 153	The Cooler says "Now is not the time to panic". Announced crowd of 18,000 last night looked more like 4 or 5 thousand. The Monfort's killed the golden goose and are now pissing on the grave. I normally go to 5 or 6 games a year but the Monfort's will get no more of my money. The Rockies have become irrelevant. I love the game so will continue to watch the development of the youngsters but I don't think the Rockies will have a winning record anytime soon with this bunch of Bozos running the show.

04-17-2007, 08:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,147	Willy T. starts it off tonight in the usual way -- STRIKEOUT! 5 for 38 on the year, 4 BB, 11 K, 3 SB, 2 CS Oh, how I miss Choo Freeman ...

04-17-2007, 09:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,147	Matt Cain goes headhunting. Who will do the honors for the Rockies? My vote: Affeldt.

04-17-2007, 11:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dante Bichette Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 268	Well, I had all kinds of sarcastic things to say about this team and this game tonight, but now I will have to save them for another time. That was a good win and a nice comeback, something we have shown absolutely no ability to do until this point.

04-18-2007, 12:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,147	About time for the bats to bust out. For a while there I was afraid that Tavares getting picked off would be the difference in this game. And how 'bout that Steve Finley ... ... that Tulo leaping grab in the 9th was beautiful.

04-18-2007, 01:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dante Bichette Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 268	Speaking of the Tavares nap, why is it that the Rockies seem to always do stupid things? We get picked off base, pitchers ignore base runners, hitters swing at the first pitch in important situations, outfielders (mostly Holiday) throw to the wrong base, bunt attempts are frequently popped up? I know I blame Hurdle for a lot of things, but isn't it ultimately the managers job to teach the players the correct way to play the game? Or, at the very least, shouldn't he hold them accountable for their mistakes?