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Roxpert · April 11th, 2007, 09:27 PM

We couldn't use Fuentes in high leverage situations in two San Diego losses, and now Clint brings him in for some mopup work in the 8th inning of a 3-0 game. Wonderful.

GerryInCS · April 11th, 2007, 09:34 PM

1st Inning, Bases Loaded with one out and we get nothing. This team is pathetic at this early stage of the season. It would have been great to knock Penny out in the 1st. Instead, he works his way out of the jam and stymies the offense for the next six innings. This team sucks, sucks long and hard.

Dante Bichette · April 11th, 2007, 09:37 PM

Relax guys, you know the offense is going to come around and the hitters will start hitting.

Yeah, as soon as we are 10 games below .500, the pressure is off, and the starting pitching begins to stumble.

I bet we tear it up in August, and then are forced to listen to Rockies management and apologists talk about how good the Rockies young hitters have become and how much they have learned from this year.

RMF · April 11th, 2007, 09:39 PM

I sense the return of the bunt happy maniac. Well the starting pitching has been very enjoyable to watch. And if we had a major league lineup we would have a very nice record.

Barmes walked twice in a game. The End is near.

Good thing we extended Hurdle. We wouldn't have wanted his contract situation to become a distraction. Apparently Jeff Baker is the best player on this team.

Roxpert · April 11th, 2007, 09:40 PM

Dante, you are absolutely right. The Rockies and their sycophants like to point to the raw numbers, but the truth is that we don't seem to hit when we are in pressure situations in close games, and when the games really matter. This has become the trend this early season, just like what we saw last year.

DieHardRoxFan · April 11th, 2007, 09:49 PM

Rockies lead MLB in striking out. George Frazier the Rockie pimp making excuses. The Cooler hasn't learned anything. Webb is next up. Rockies still road kill. To this point nothing's changed.

wolf213 · April 11th, 2007, 09:50 PM

This is the offense that most said would be the best in the division..... its has been frustrating non-the less but lets take a closer look before we get our panties in a bunch

Using the most recent data from Fan Graphs here is the BABIP compared to their career totals.

Helton .280 .342 - I wouldn't put money down on him not hitting above .300 this year

Atkins .250 .320 - He's hit a couple of shots right at people in the early going. He will come around

Ianetta .200 .294

Taveras .284 .339

While its been frustrating, I don't think anyone can honestly convince themselves that based on the low sample sizes we have here, this team is going to be this bad at scoring runs.

Its only April.... lets at least give them until June to prove something rather then just the first week of the season.

Roxpert · April 11th, 2007, 10:05 PM

Wolf, I don't know if you read another post in a thread I created the other night, but some strange offensive struggles are infecting teams this early season, and it has not gotten any better. Tonight, less than 8 runs per game were scored around the majors. The Padres bullpen hasn't allowed a single run yet in over 27 innings.

The Rox could have a disappointing offense this season, but this could be the case for many team offenses this year if the league level of offense is down. 10 days don't make a trend, but I haven't seen this type of low-scoring environment since before the Rockies were born, probably before your time.

EDIT: To be precise, exactly 6.6 runs per game were scored tonight, in 14 major league games. Better pitching? Bigger umpire strike zones? Or are the PEDs gone???

Maybe just a fluke.

Dante Bichette · April 11th, 2007, 10:22 PM

I have seemed to notice that the umpire's strike zones seem larger this year. It seems like in all of the games I watch there are a lot of called strikes and strikeouts, more so than in the past.

Roxpert · April 11th, 2007, 10:35 PM

I've observed the same thing, Dante. What I'm seeing are more marginal pitches, a bit low or a bit outside, being called strikes, and batters being rung up on such pitches when they have 2 strikes.

It's a nice conspiracy theory to think that MLB umpires were told by the commisioner's office secretly to call the borderline pitches more liberally, both to speed up the games and give the appearance that their steroids testing program is working. Lower scoring games could convince the public of that. But wouldn't somebody leak this secret?

April 11th, 2007, 09:34 PM	#32 (permalink)
GerryInCS New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 635	1st Inning, Bases Loaded with one out and we get nothing. This team is pathetic at this early stage of the season. It would have been great to knock Penny out in the 1st. Instead, he works his way out of the jam and stymies the offense for the next six innings. This team sucks, sucks long and hard. __________________ Americans aren't afraid of Mexicans, Americans are afraid that Mexicans are turning America into Mexico.

April 11th, 2007, 09:39 PM	#34 (permalink)
RMF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 206	I sense the return of the bunt happy maniac. Well the starting pitching has been very enjoyable to watch. And if we had a major league lineup we would have a very nice record. Barmes walked twice in a game. The End is near. Good thing we extended Hurdle. We wouldn't have wanted his contract situation to become a distraction. Apparently Jeff Baker is the best player on this team. Last edited by RMF; April 11th, 2007 at 09:45 PM.

April 11th, 2007, 10:05 PM	#38 (permalink)
Roxpert Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 1,082	Wolf, I don't know if you read another post in a thread I created the other night, but some strange offensive struggles are infecting teams this early season, and it has not gotten any better. Tonight, less than 8 runs per game were scored around the majors. The Padres bullpen hasn't allowed a single run yet in over 27 innings. The Rox could have a disappointing offense this season, but this could be the case for many team offenses this year if the league level of offense is down. 10 days don't make a trend, but I haven't seen this type of low-scoring environment since before the Rockies were born, probably before your time. EDIT: To be precise, exactly 6.6 runs per game were scored tonight, in 14 major league games. Better pitching? Bigger umpire strike zones? Or are the PEDs gone??? Maybe just a fluke. Last edited by Roxpert; April 11th, 2007 at 10:11 PM.

April 11th, 2007, 09:27 PM	#31 (permalink)
Roxpert Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 1,082	We couldn't use Fuentes in high leverage situations in two San Diego losses, and now Clint brings him in for some mopup work in the 8th inning of a 3-0 game. Wonderful.

April 11th, 2007, 09:37 PM	#33 (permalink)
Dante Bichette Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 272	Relax guys, you know the offense is going to come around and the hitters will start hitting. Yeah, as soon as we are 10 games below .500, the pressure is off, and the starting pitching begins to stumble. I bet we tear it up in August, and then are forced to listen to Rockies management and apologists talk about how good the Rockies young hitters have become and how much they have learned from this year.

April 11th, 2007, 09:40 PM	#35 (permalink)
Roxpert Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 1,082	Dante, you are absolutely right. The Rockies and their sycophants like to point to the raw numbers, but the truth is that we don't seem to hit when we are in pressure situations in close games, and when the games really matter. This has become the trend this early season, just like what we saw last year.

April 11th, 2007, 09:49 PM	#36 (permalink)
DieHardRoxFan Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 153	Rockies lead MLB in striking out. George Frazier the Rockie pimp making excuses. The Cooler hasn't learned anything. Webb is next up. Rockies still road kill. To this point nothing's changed.

April 11th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#37 (permalink)
wolf213 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Thornton Co Posts: 197	This is the offense that most said would be the best in the division..... its has been frustrating non-the less but lets take a closer look before we get our panties in a bunch Using the most recent data from Fan Graphs here is the BABIP compared to their career totals. Helton .280 .342 - I wouldn't put money down on him not hitting above .300 this year Atkins .250 .320 - He's hit a couple of shots right at people in the early going. He will come around Ianetta .200 .294 Taveras .284 .339 While its been frustrating, I don't think anyone can honestly convince themselves that based on the low sample sizes we have here, this team is going to be this bad at scoring runs. Its only April.... lets at least give them until June to prove something rather then just the first week of the season.

April 11th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#39 (permalink)
Dante Bichette Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 272	I have seemed to notice that the umpire's strike zones seem larger this year. It seems like in all of the games I watch there are a lot of called strikes and strikeouts, more so than in the past.

April 11th, 2007, 10:35 PM	#40 (permalink)
Roxpert Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 1,082	I've observed the same thing, Dante. What I'm seeing are more marginal pitches, a bit low or a bit outside, being called strikes, and batters being rung up on such pitches when they have 2 strikes. It's a nice conspiracy theory to think that MLB umpires were told by the commisioner's office secretly to call the borderline pitches more liberally, both to speed up the games and give the appearance that their steroids testing program is working. Lower scoring games could convince the public of that. But wouldn't somebody leak this secret?