2007 Minor League Thread - Page 3

Roxpert · April 20th, 2007, 10:45 AM

So this appears to be an organization-wide prospect slump, if you count the Rockies, considering the starts of Tulowitski and Iannetta. Things had better pick up or our #3 ranking as a farm system is going to take a major hit this year, just as DOD got an extension due to the improvement of the farm system. Truly ironic development if things don't improve.

RockieRooter · April 20th, 2007, 11:59 AM

First, I think it's too early to say anything. Second, I think the key in looking for breakouts is to understand what a players weaknesses have been in the past and watch if they're making any progress in addressing them. IMHO Stewart's early lack of power may be due to working on his approach at the plate - trying to have better ABs, cut down on K's and make more consistent contact. If this is the case, and if his line represents progress in this area, then I think the power will come and all is right with the world. I'm looking forward to a couple of more months of the season to see what happens.

PurnGoldy · April 20th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Organization-wide prospect slump? Come on. It's only been a couple of weeks. What, are Tulo's and Iannetta's careers already doomed? The cherry-picking lengths you will go to to paint the Rockies organization in a bad light are truly amazing.

Heltonfan · April 20th, 2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockieRooter

Second, I think the key in looking for breakouts is to understand what a players weaknesses have been in the past and watch if they're making any progress in addressing them.

That's generally the approach I take as well. I'm just not sure that it applies in Stewart's case, because he's not a guy that has glaring strengths and weaknesses. Breaking down his '06 season:

K/PA: .201 (TL average .183)
BB/PA: .098 (TL average .094)
BABIP: .327 (TL average .315)
ISO: .184 (TL average .151)

This isn't a Dunn or Soriano-like statistical profile, where you can identify one area (strikeouts for Dunn, walks for Soriano) where, if they improve, they'll be world-beaters. It's much more balanced. I'm not sure if that makes Stewart a less likely candidate for a breakout, but it suggests to me that he has less room to grow in any one category than other prospects do. So a breakout, in his case, might be expected to consist of an all-around improvement rather than a dramatic step forward in one aspect of the game.

RMF · April 20th, 2007, 09:46 PM

Jiminez gets absolutely bombed again.He's definitely ready for Coors field.

Heltonfan · April 21st, 2007, 09:16 AM

Colorado Springs
Ubaldo Jimenez: 3.2 IP, 7 H, 5 BB, 3 K
Ryan Spilborghs: 2-5, 3B
Ian Stewart: 2-4, HR
Tulsa
Ching-Lung Lo: 5 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 4 K, 3 HR
Jonathan Herrera: 2-4, 2B
Modesto
Brandon Hynick: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 3 K
Chris Nelson: 3-4, 2 2B - .250/.304/.423
Asheville
Simon Ferrer: 6 IP, 9 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HR
Daniel Mayora: 2-4, 2B

At this rate, Hynick will be in Tulsa by July. He's a strike-thrower, plain and simple.

Nice of Stewart to go out and show some power right after I called attention to his lack thereof...

madness · April 21st, 2007, 09:48 AM

Herrera is on fire.

He even came back from getting hit in the head by a pitch and hit well again in his first game back.

Heltonfan · April 21st, 2007, 10:39 AM

Herrera is indeed on fire. In his own way, he's doing exactly what RockieRooter mentioned yesterday in regard to Stewart; sacrificing some pop in order to make more contact. It's a tiny sample, but striking out at less than half the league-average rate, at a level where he has no previous experience, is definitely a good sign.

More thoughts on Hynick... here's an interesting comparison. The first line is Hynick's 2006 season at Birmingham-Southern; the second is Greg Reynolds' 2006 season at Stanford:

Hynick: .216 K/BF, .063 BB/BF, .002 HR/BF, .302 BABIP
Reynolds: .206 K/BF, .061 BB/BF, .013 HR/BF, .294 BABIP

Now, there are some important differences... First, Hynick had never dominated like that before, whereas Reynolds had. Second, quality of competition. Birmingham-Southern doesn't play a cupcake schedule by any means - it's a legit Division I program - but it ain't Stanford. And finally, Hynick's apparent advantage in HR rate shouldn't be taken very seriously, because of a) sample size and b) Reynolds' known groundball tendencies.

But nevertheless, those are two eerily similar performances. And while it's yet another piece of evidence that you shouldn't take a guy like Reynolds at #2 overall, it also suggests that Hynick was a hell of an 8th-round pick. The Rockies' scouting department deserves some real credit for this one (well, I guess it sounds odd to say that the scouts deserve credit when I reached the same conclusion after looking at my spreadsheets for five minutes... but you know what I mean).

Heltonfan · April 22nd, 2007, 08:14 AM

Colorado Springs
Alberto Arias: 5.1 IP, 8 H, 0 BB, 3 K
Tom Martin: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 2 K
Ian Stewart: 2-4, 2B, BB - .340/.397/.434
Joe Koshansky: 3-4, 2B - .306/.386/.490
Tulsa
Jon Asahina: 5 IP, 7 H, 3 BB, 1 K
Jonathan Herrera: 3-4, 2B - .383/.413/.450
Modesto
Pedro Strop: 2 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 6 K
Asheville
Josh Sullivan: 6 IP, 4 H, 3 BB, 8 K
Michael Paulk: 4-4, 2B - .415/.515/.509

Heltonfan · April 22nd, 2007, 07:43 PM

Colorado Springs
Byung-Hyun Kim: 3.2 IP, 1 H, 3 BB, 6 K
Jayson Nix: 3-4, 2B
Sean Barker: 2-4, HR - .452/.469/.935
Seth Smith: 2-4, 2B - .250/.327/.386
Tulsa
Greg Reynolds: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 6 K, 2 HR
Matt Miller: 2-4, HR
Modesto
Alan Johnson: 7 IP, 7 H, 0 BB, 5 K
Eric Young: 3-5, 2 SB - .213/.265/.230
Chris Nelson: 3-5, 2B
Asheville
Andy Graham: 6 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 5 K
Michael McKenry: 2-4, 2B, HR - .250/.323/.500

Heltonfan · April 24th, 2007, 08:25 AM

Colorado Springs
Jayson Nix: 2-4, 2B, BB, SB - .293/.408/.366
Ryan Spilborghs: 2-5, HR
Sean Barker: 2-4, HR, BB
Omar Quintanilla: 3-4, 2B
Tulsa
Franklin Morales: 6 IP, 2 H, 2 BB, 6 K
Steven Register: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K - 14/0 K/BB
Joe Gaetti: 3-4, 3 2B, BB
Modesto
Chaz Roe: 6 IP, 1 H, 4 BB, 3 K
Asheville
Keith Weiser: 6 IP, 5 H, 0 BB, 6 K, 2 HR
Hector Gomez: 1-4, HR, BB
Michael Paulk: 2-4, 2B
Daniel Mayora: 2-4, 2B, SB - .288/.314/.409

Heltonfan · April 25th, 2007, 07:43 AM

Tulsa
Ryan Mattheus: 7.1 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 2 K
Modesto
Brandon Durden: 5.2 IP, 9 H, 3 BB, 4 K
Chris Nelson: 2-5, 2B
Asheville
Aneury Rodriguez: 7 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 6 K - 22/7 K/BB in 20 IP
Daniel Mayora: 2-4, SB - .300/.333/.414
Michael Paulk: 2-5, 2B, SB
Victor Ferrante: 2-2, BB

Heltonfan · April 25th, 2007, 10:57 PM

Tulsa
Ching-Lung Lo: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 1 K - left after rain delay
Jonathan Herrera: 4-5
Modesto
Brandon Hynick: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 4 K - 15/3 K/BB in 23 IP

Hynick continues to impress...

Heltonfan · April 27th, 2007, 09:38 AM

Colorado Springs
Ubaldo Jimenez: 6 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 4 K
Joe Koshansky: 1-3, HR, BB
Tulsa
Juan Morillo: 1.1 IP, 2 H, 3 BB, 2 K - 10 BB in 7 IP
Modesto
Sam Deduno: 5 IP, 5 H, 3 BB, 3 K, 2 HBP - '07 debut
Asheville
Simon Ferrer: 5 IP, 9 H, 0 BB, 2 K, 1 HR
Ethan Katz: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 3 K - 23 years old, but 14/2 K/BB still looks pretty good
Daniel Mayora: 2-3, 2B, BB

Heltonfan · April 27th, 2007, 11:21 PM

Colorado Springs
Byung-Hyun Kim: 4 IP, 5 H, 3 BB, 2 K
Alberto Arias: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 4 K - 11/3 K/BB in 18 IP
Ian Stewart: 1-3, HR - .313/.370/.433
Tulsa
Greg Reynolds: 6 IP, 6 H, 2 BB, 5 K
Modesto
Alan Johnson: 6 IP, 5 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HR
Pedro Strop: 1 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 2 K
Eric Young: 2-4, 2B
Asheville
Josh Sullivan: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 4 BB, 2 K
Michael Paulk: 2-4, HR, BB - .397/.489/.534
Logan Wiens: 3-4, 2B, HR, BB

April 21st, 2007, 09:16 AM	#36 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 20 Colorado Springs Ubaldo Jimenez: 3.2 IP, 7 H, 5 BB, 3 K Ryan Spilborghs: 2-5, 3B Ian Stewart: 2-4, HR Tulsa Ching-Lung Lo: 5 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 4 K, 3 HR Jonathan Herrera: 2-4, 2B Modesto Brandon Hynick: 7 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 3 K Chris Nelson: 3-4, 2 2B - .250/.304/.423 Asheville Simon Ferrer: 6 IP, 9 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HR Daniel Mayora: 2-4, 2B At this rate, Hynick will be in Tulsa by July. He's a strike-thrower, plain and simple. Nice of Stewart to go out and show some power right after I called attention to his lack thereof...

April 22nd, 2007, 08:14 AM	#39 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 21 Colorado Springs Alberto Arias: 5.1 IP, 8 H, 0 BB, 3 K Tom Martin: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 2 K Ian Stewart: 2-4, 2B, BB - .340/.397/.434 Joe Koshansky: 3-4, 2B - .306/.386/.490 Tulsa Jon Asahina: 5 IP, 7 H, 3 BB, 1 K Jonathan Herrera: 3-4, 2B - .383/.413/.450 Modesto Pedro Strop: 2 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 6 K Asheville Josh Sullivan: 6 IP, 4 H, 3 BB, 8 K Michael Paulk: 4-4, 2B - .415/.515/.509

April 22nd, 2007, 07:43 PM	#40 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 22 Colorado Springs Byung-Hyun Kim: 3.2 IP, 1 H, 3 BB, 6 K Jayson Nix: 3-4, 2B Sean Barker: 2-4, HR - .452/.469/.935 Seth Smith: 2-4, 2B - .250/.327/.386 Tulsa Greg Reynolds: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 6 K, 2 HR Matt Miller: 2-4, HR Modesto Alan Johnson: 7 IP, 7 H, 0 BB, 5 K Eric Young: 3-5, 2 SB - .213/.265/.230 Chris Nelson: 3-5, 2B Asheville Andy Graham: 6 IP, 7 H, 1 BB, 5 K Michael McKenry: 2-4, 2B, HR - .250/.323/.500

April 24th, 2007, 08:25 AM	#41 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 23 Colorado Springs Jayson Nix: 2-4, 2B, BB, SB - .293/.408/.366 Ryan Spilborghs: 2-5, HR Sean Barker: 2-4, HR, BB Omar Quintanilla: 3-4, 2B Tulsa Franklin Morales: 6 IP, 2 H, 2 BB, 6 K Steven Register: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K - 14/0 K/BB Joe Gaetti: 3-4, 3 2B, BB Modesto Chaz Roe: 6 IP, 1 H, 4 BB, 3 K Asheville Keith Weiser: 6 IP, 5 H, 0 BB, 6 K, 2 HR Hector Gomez: 1-4, HR, BB Michael Paulk: 2-4, 2B Daniel Mayora: 2-4, 2B, SB - .288/.314/.409

April 25th, 2007, 07:43 AM	#42 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 24 Tulsa Ryan Mattheus: 7.1 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 2 K Modesto Brandon Durden: 5.2 IP, 9 H, 3 BB, 4 K Chris Nelson: 2-5, 2B Asheville Aneury Rodriguez: 7 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 6 K - 22/7 K/BB in 20 IP Daniel Mayora: 2-4, SB - .300/.333/.414 Michael Paulk: 2-5, 2B, SB Victor Ferrante: 2-2, BB

April 20th, 2007, 10:45 AM	#31 (permalink)
Roxpert Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 1,082	So this appears to be an organization-wide prospect slump, if you count the Rockies, considering the starts of Tulowitski and Iannetta. Things had better pick up or our #3 ranking as a farm system is going to take a major hit this year, just as DOD got an extension due to the improvement of the farm system. Truly ironic development if things don't improve.

April 20th, 2007, 11:59 AM	#32 (permalink)
RockieRooter Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 62	First, I think it's too early to say anything. Second, I think the key in looking for breakouts is to understand what a players weaknesses have been in the past and watch if they're making any progress in addressing them. IMHO Stewart's early lack of power may be due to working on his approach at the plate - trying to have better ABs, cut down on K's and make more consistent contact. If this is the case, and if his line represents progress in this area, then I think the power will come and all is right with the world. I'm looking forward to a couple of more months of the season to see what happens.

April 20th, 2007, 12:06 PM	#33 (permalink)
PurnGoldy Rookie Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13	Organization-wide prospect slump? Come on. It's only been a couple of weeks. What, are Tulo's and Iannetta's careers already doomed? The cherry-picking lengths you will go to to paint the Rockies organization in a bad light are truly amazing.

April 20th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#35 (permalink)
RMF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 206	Jiminez gets absolutely bombed again.He's definitely ready for Coors field.

April 21st, 2007, 09:48 AM	#37 (permalink)
madness Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 21	Herrera is on fire. He even came back from getting hit in the head by a pitch and hit well again in his first game back.

April 21st, 2007, 10:39 AM	#38 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Herrera is indeed on fire. In his own way, he's doing exactly what RockieRooter mentioned yesterday in regard to Stewart; sacrificing some pop in order to make more contact. It's a tiny sample, but striking out at less than half the league-average rate, at a level where he has no previous experience, is definitely a good sign. More thoughts on Hynick... here's an interesting comparison. The first line is Hynick's 2006 season at Birmingham-Southern; the second is Greg Reynolds' 2006 season at Stanford: Hynick: .216 K/BF, .063 BB/BF, .002 HR/BF, .302 BABIP Reynolds: .206 K/BF, .061 BB/BF, .013 HR/BF, .294 BABIP Now, there are some important differences... First, Hynick had never dominated like that before, whereas Reynolds had. Second, quality of competition. Birmingham-Southern doesn't play a cupcake schedule by any means - it's a legit Division I program - but it ain't Stanford. And finally, Hynick's apparent advantage in HR rate shouldn't be taken very seriously, because of a) sample size and b) Reynolds' known groundball tendencies. But nevertheless, those are two eerily similar performances. And while it's yet another piece of evidence that you shouldn't take a guy like Reynolds at #2 overall, it also suggests that Hynick was a hell of an 8th-round pick. The Rockies' scouting department deserves some real credit for this one (well, I guess it sounds odd to say that the scouts deserve credit when I reached the same conclusion after looking at my spreadsheets for five minutes... but you know what I mean).

April 25th, 2007, 10:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 25 Tulsa Ching-Lung Lo: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 1 K - left after rain delay Jonathan Herrera: 4-5 Modesto Brandon Hynick: 5 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, 4 K - 15/3 K/BB in 23 IP Hynick continues to impress... Last edited by Heltonfan; April 26th, 2007 at 10:41 AM.

April 27th, 2007, 09:38 AM	#44 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 26 Colorado Springs Ubaldo Jimenez: 6 IP, 3 H, 2 BB, 4 K Joe Koshansky: 1-3, HR, BB Tulsa Juan Morillo: 1.1 IP, 2 H, 3 BB, 2 K - 10 BB in 7 IP Modesto Sam Deduno: 5 IP, 5 H, 3 BB, 3 K, 2 HBP - '07 debut Asheville Simon Ferrer: 5 IP, 9 H, 0 BB, 2 K, 1 HR Ethan Katz: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 3 K - 23 years old, but 14/2 K/BB still looks pretty good Daniel Mayora: 2-3, 2B, BB

April 27th, 2007, 11:21 PM	#45 (permalink)
Heltonfan Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 902	Farm Report, April 27 Colorado Springs Byung-Hyun Kim: 4 IP, 5 H, 3 BB, 2 K Alberto Arias: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 4 K - 11/3 K/BB in 18 IP Ian Stewart: 1-3, HR - .313/.370/.433 Tulsa Greg Reynolds: 6 IP, 6 H, 2 BB, 5 K Modesto Alan Johnson: 6 IP, 5 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 HR Pedro Strop: 1 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 2 K Eric Young: 2-4, 2B Asheville Josh Sullivan: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 4 BB, 2 K Michael Paulk: 2-4, HR, BB - .397/.489/.534 Logan Wiens: 3-4, 2B, HR, BB