Is Helton Done?

HoyaRoxFan · 07-19-2008, 07:59 PM

Stewart up, Atkins moved to first - The Denver Post

Atkins and Stewart are now to man the corners "indefinitely." Any chance Helton retires at year's end? How tragic that would be and yet what new life it would give to the franchise... you'd have to think this would kill the notion of trading Holliday (and Atkins too, but that goes without saying) for at least the remainder of the year, giving new potential to the future of this franchise and its scanty resources...

wolf213 · 07-19-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HoyaRoxFan

Stewart up, Atkins moved to first - The Denver Post

Atkins and Stewart are now to man the corners "indefinitely." Any chance Helton retires at year's end? How tragic that would be and yet what new life it would give to the franchise... you'd have to think this would kill the notion of trading Holliday (and Atkins too, but that goes without saying) for at least the remainder of the year, giving new potential to the future of this franchise and its scanty resources...

That would be tragic if Todd was done.... I seriously doubt he is close to retirement, however I think there is a very real possibility that he's out for the season. His back has been bugging him for about 3 or 4 years now, and it looks like it may have gotten the best of him.

Newman · 07-20-2008, 08:59 AM

From a fantasy baseball perspective I was about to jump all over Ian Stewart and grab him right away. I counted to 10 and just put him on my watch list. What about Koshanski? I guess he's just batting .143 as I type, just a AAA player.

I think Helton may BE done. Who was the last player you can think of who came back from a serious back injury? If you can't twist your back up at the plate, produce torque without pain, open up the hips - well - how can you hit, and especially how can you hit with power?

Lots of pressure on Stewart to realize his Potential, the dreaded P word. God, I hope he comes thru.

BigRapidsJackass · 07-21-2008, 04:16 AM

Finally some good sense prevails.

Right now this makes the club better. You get a better defensive third baseman in Stewart, and Atkins is going to be better at 1B than Baker. Plus, you free up Baker to play 2B most of the time. Koshansky strikes me as the classic AAAA guy. Plus, so far he looks like a butcher defensively at 1B.

Whether Helton comes back or not, it was high time to start making arrangements for a future without him. I think he will be back for two reasons: pride (he doesn't want it to end like this) and money (when's the last time a guy retired with $50 million left sitting on the table?). But I think even in his healthy stretches we'll see the 2008-type Helton, a guy whose value comes almost completely from OBP, and we'll see that OBP start to decline pretty quickly.

07-19-2008, 07:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
HoyaRoxFan Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 280	Is Helton Done? Stewart up, Atkins moved to first - The Denver Post Atkins and Stewart are now to man the corners "indefinitely." Any chance Helton retires at year's end? How tragic that would be and yet what new life it would give to the franchise... you'd have to think this would kill the notion of trading Holliday (and Atkins too, but that goes without saying) for at least the remainder of the year, giving new potential to the future of this franchise and its scanty resources...

07-20-2008, 08:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Newman Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Aurora Posts: 521	From a fantasy baseball perspective I was about to jump all over Ian Stewart and grab him right away. I counted to 10 and just put him on my watch list. What about Koshanski? I guess he's just batting .143 as I type, just a AAA player. I think Helton may BE done. Who was the last player you can think of who came back from a serious back injury? If you can't twist your back up at the plate, produce torque without pain, open up the hips - well - how can you hit, and especially how can you hit with power? Lots of pressure on Stewart to realize his Potential, the dreaded P word. God, I hope he comes thru.

07-21-2008, 04:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,101	Finally some good sense prevails. Right now this makes the club better. You get a better defensive third baseman in Stewart, and Atkins is going to be better at 1B than Baker. Plus, you free up Baker to play 2B most of the time. Koshansky strikes me as the classic AAAA guy. Plus, so far he looks like a butcher defensively at 1B. Whether Helton comes back or not, it was high time to start making arrangements for a future without him. I think he will be back for two reasons: pride (he doesn't want it to end like this) and money (when's the last time a guy retired with $50 million left sitting on the table?). But I think even in his healthy stretches we'll see the 2008-type Helton, a guy whose value comes almost completely from OBP, and we'll see that OBP start to decline pretty quickly.