altitude partnering with fox sports?

denverbearsfan · 12-12-2006, 09:34 AM

Read this story in today's Denver Post:

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_4822236

If Altitude/Nuggets/Avalanche owner Stan Kroenke can have Fox Sports or a partnership with Fox Sports in his empire, could it open the way for Kroenke getting an ownership stake in the Rockies? No mention of this in the article, but I can dream. Kroenke has the bucks to buy and fund the franchise at the level it deserves.

Below C-Level · 12-12-2006, 10:51 AM

Be careful what you wish for...

GerryInCS · 12-12-2006, 01:27 PM

What's wrong with Kroenke? From what I've seen he wants teams that will win. How could that offend a Rockies fan?

denverbearsfan · 12-12-2006, 02:27 PM

In the pre-salary cap era for the NHL Kroenke was not afraid to open the checkbook to fund the Avs 2001 Stanley Cup Team (taking on big contracts of Roy, Blake, Bourque, and others). And he didn't hesitate this past offseason to sign Carmelo to a big $$ long term deal for the Nuggets. Kroenke would have to be an improvement over the Monforts if he owned the Rockies.

Still just wishful thinking (no evidence Kroenke is interested) - I just want the Monforts to sell!

Rox Girl · 12-12-2006, 02:48 PM

The value of the franchise has stagnated over the last five or six seasons while those of just about every other MLB team have gone up significantly. I think the worst indictment of the O'Dowd tenure more than any on the field issue is the erosion of the Rockies brand. Now with the new media/labor agreements in place and the FO's care to keep the team profitable the last couple of years plus the increase in ticket prices, plus the emergence of our cheap and young players contributing to a few more wins and tickets sold, the value of the Rockies should go up dramatically. It would be like selling pharmaceutical stock right as a major drug is introduced. The Monforts would be pretty dumb to get rid of the team right now.

Rankal · 12-13-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rox Girl

The value of the franchise has stagnated over the last five or six seasons while those of just about every other MLB team have gone up significantly. I think the worst indictment of the O'Dowd tenure more than any on the field issue is the erosion of the Rockies brand. Now with the new media/labor agreements in place and the FO's care to keep the team profitable the last couple of years plus the increase in ticket prices, plus the emergence of our cheap and young players contributing to a few more wins and tickets sold, the value of the Rockies should go up dramatically. It would be like selling pharmaceutical stock right as a major drug is introduced. The Monforts would be pretty dumb to get rid of the team right now.

Have to agree.

The reason other teams have gone up in value is because they're spending more. Simple economics. Spend more = worth more. The Rockies did that in 2001 with Hampton and Neagle, and they were "considered" to be worth more than ever, with huge aspirations. However, when all that spending collapsed and the Rockies went down with it, the spending was still high and the value reached an all-time low.

Now we try to balance out the spending to be equal to the value. You find a few diamonds in the rough, and suddenly your team grows from spending little and being worth little, to spending moderately and being worth a ton (see: Oakland Athletics). The only case this isn't necessarily true is the Florida Marlins, who seem to be on the market every freakin' year.

The Monforts, as much as we all may loathe them from time to time, need to hold on to this team for a few more years before thinking about selling. You sell high, buy low. Trick is to generate interest when you're not worth much, hold them at the doorstep until you've increased the value (by having a better team), then getting out and selling high.

Next thing you know, they've sold the Rockies for $800 million and they're an 86-78 team with a solid group of players. Because their value of being an even BETTER team the next year is enough to offset what their current value may be.

That was confusing. Sorry.

Below C-Level · 12-13-2006, 09:31 AM

There are any number of things that you may be justified in taking the Rockies to task on, but ticket prices and the cost of a day at the ballpark just isn't one of them.

http://www.teammarketing.com/fci.cfm

Rox Girl · 12-13-2006, 12:16 PM

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There are any number of things that you may be justified in taking the Rockies to task on, but ticket prices and the cost of a day at the ballpark just isn't one of them

I think you might have misread what I meant. I'm saying the rise in ticket prices is a good thing in regards to the value of the franchise. Higher ticket prices plus higher attendance plus lower payroll = greater profit and franchise value.

Below C-Level · 12-13-2006, 12:24 PM

Sorry, Roxgirl, I absolutely misread that. My apologies.

BigRapidsJackass · 12-13-2006, 11:42 PM

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There are any number of things that you may be justified in taking the Rockies to task on, but ticket prices and the cost of a day at the ballpark just isn't one of them.

Yeah, gotta love that "Interleague Pack" they're selling over at coloradorockies.com.

To see that Yankees, you have to buy a 3-game pack including games with those other interleague faves, the Royals and the Devil Rays.

Effective cost of an infield box seat to see the Yankees: $159.

(I'm assuming everyone's going to throw away the Royals/D'Rays ticket).

I have a strange feeling that some club somewhere else is forcing it's fans to buy Rockies tickets if they also want to see the Cardinals ...

GerryInCS · 12-14-2006, 12:27 AM

If I'm paying the pack, I'm seeing the games. Plus the Royals have mase some moves, not necessarily the right ones, soit should be more interesting to watch them play.

BigRapidsJackass · 12-14-2006, 12:33 AM

Gerry in CS, I'm sure the Rockies will reward your loyalty many times over.

Next year: to see the Red Sox, you've gotta buy Sky Sox season tickets!

Below C-Level · 12-14-2006, 02:17 PM

Look on the bright side: at least you're not being asked to shell out $199 for a "guaranteed opportunity" to purchase Monster seats. Is that sort of like a posting fee for the Monster seats?

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/...sox_nation.jsp

RMF · 12-14-2006, 05:32 PM

Plus the Rockies have a better chance of actually winning the TB and KC games. That should eliminate some post purchas dissonance. Yeah Baby!

madness · 12-14-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GerryInCS

If I'm paying the pack, I'm seeing the games. Plus the Royals have mase some moves, not necessarily the right ones, soit should be more interesting to watch them play.

Getting to see Shealy play should be fun and maybe Gordon and/or Butler will be up by then (not sure why Gordon isn't up already).

12-12-2006, 09:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
denverbearsfan Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	altitude partnering with fox sports? Read this story in today's Denver Post: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_4822236 If Altitude/Nuggets/Avalanche owner Stan Kroenke can have Fox Sports or a partnership with Fox Sports in his empire, could it open the way for Kroenke getting an ownership stake in the Rockies? No mention of this in the article, but I can dream. Kroenke has the bucks to buy and fund the franchise at the level it deserves.

12-12-2006, 02:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rox Girl Rookie Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11	The trouble is the Monforts aren't interested The value of the franchise has stagnated over the last five or six seasons while those of just about every other MLB team have gone up significantly. I think the worst indictment of the O'Dowd tenure more than any on the field issue is the erosion of the Rockies brand. Now with the new media/labor agreements in place and the FO's care to keep the team profitable the last couple of years plus the increase in ticket prices, plus the emergence of our cheap and young players contributing to a few more wins and tickets sold, the value of the Rockies should go up dramatically. It would be like selling pharmaceutical stock right as a major drug is introduced. The Monforts would be pretty dumb to get rid of the team right now. __________________ Strikeouts are boring - besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. More democratic.

12-12-2006, 10:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Below C-Level Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55	Be careful what you wish for...

12-12-2006, 01:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
GerryInCS Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 634	What's wrong with Kroenke? From what I've seen he wants teams that will win. How could that offend a Rockies fan?

12-12-2006, 02:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
denverbearsfan Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	In the pre-salary cap era for the NHL Kroenke was not afraid to open the checkbook to fund the Avs 2001 Stanley Cup Team (taking on big contracts of Roy, Blake, Bourque, and others). And he didn't hesitate this past offseason to sign Carmelo to a big $$ long term deal for the Nuggets. Kroenke would have to be an improvement over the Monforts if he owned the Rockies. Still just wishful thinking (no evidence Kroenke is interested) - I just want the Monforts to sell!

12-13-2006, 09:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Below C-Level Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55	There are any number of things that you may be justified in taking the Rockies to task on, but ticket prices and the cost of a day at the ballpark just isn't one of them. http://www.teammarketing.com/fci.cfm

12-13-2006, 12:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Below C-Level Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55	Sorry, Roxgirl, I absolutely misread that. My apologies.

12-14-2006, 12:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
GerryInCS Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 634	If I'm paying the pack, I'm seeing the games. Plus the Royals have mase some moves, not necessarily the right ones, soit should be more interesting to watch them play.

12-14-2006, 12:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,146	Gerry in CS, I'm sure the Rockies will reward your loyalty many times over. Next year: to see the Red Sox, you've gotta buy Sky Sox season tickets!

12-14-2006, 02:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
Below C-Level Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 55	Look on the bright side: at least you're not being asked to shell out $199 for a "guaranteed opportunity" to purchase Monster seats. Is that sort of like a posting fee for the Monster seats? http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/...sox_nation.jsp

12-14-2006, 05:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
RMF Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 201	Plus the Rockies have a better chance of actually winning the TB and KC games. That should eliminate some post purchas dissonance. Yeah Baby!