Rock Bottom - Cubs 10, Rockies 9

Dante Bichette · 05-30-2008, 07:34 PM

Well, I have seen a lot of bad baseball this year from the local team, but this one takes the cake. They blew an 8-0 lead with Cook on the mound. Even Lou Pinella thought it was over, considering he took Derek Lee and Giavony Soto out of the game. I don't see how it can get much worse than this.

As a Rockies fan, I can only hope the skid continues so that Hurdle and O'Dowd may be held accountable for once, not to mention ownership re-thinking their SOP.

wolf213 · 05-30-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante Bichette

As a Rockies fan, I can only hope the skid continues so that Hurdle and O'Dowd may be held accountable for once, not to mention ownership re-thinking their SOP.

Thats been my train of thought also, however how bad does it have to get before something gets done? Any other team out there, Hurdle and O'Dowd are fired a long time ago.... it seems to me that Hurdle will be this teams manager until he dies... by then Holliday, Atkins, Tulo, Hawpe, Corpas, Francis, Cook, Stewart, Helton, Fowler, Reynolds, Morales, Jiminez, Fuentes etc. will all have been traded to "cut cost"

BigRapidsJackass · 05-31-2008, 02:02 PM

Rockies Nation turns its lonely eyes to ...

... Glendon Rusch ...

... to rescue the season.

Another example of how lost O'Dowd can get when things go wrong.

Remember the "starting pitching depth" O'Dowd collected this year?

Kip Wells: DL
Mark Redman: back in AAA
Josh Towers: started in AAA
de la Rosa: relegated to the pen

Let me pose one simple question:

Dear Dan O'Dowd:

You apparently expect Glendon Rusch to be "better" in some meaningful way than Josh Towers or Mark Redman. Please explain.

Here's Heltonfan's preseason ERA projections. Note that none of the above has done anything this season to make us think that any of these guys is likely to outperform their projections:

Redman: 5.17
Towers: 4.84
de la Rosa: 4.72
Rusch: 5.81

I can think of no reason -- absolutely none -- for why we would expect Rusch to be any better than the available in-house (and already on the payroll) candidates.

They're all crap. They're all basically replacement level pitchers. That's why they're kicking around without jobs.

This is not strategy. It is a lack of strategy. Let's pick up some other waiver wire guy and throw him out there; hey, he can't be worse than what we've tried before, right?

GerryInCS · 05-31-2008, 02:14 PM

There is no BRJ, Jason Hirsh has sarted his rehab assignment, the sooner he's ready, the sooner that Rusch/Reynolds/Jimenez/De La Rosa gets moved out of the rotation and back to AAA where they damned well belong (or out baseball altogether for everyone but Jimenez)

BigRapidsJackass · 06-03-2008, 12:48 AM

No offense, Bichette, but that Cubs game wasn't rock bottom.

This is rock bottom. 8-2 loss to the previously punchless Dodgers. Bad pitching, no hitting, mental errors on defense, some obvious lack of effort (I'm talking to you, Yorvit ... move that butt and block those balls in the dirt).

Time for a major rethinking. And I think it starts with sending Hurdle packing.

GerryInCS · 06-03-2008, 05:26 AM

Plus Reynolds serving up two more HRs (8 in his 5 starts) doesn't help. I was shocked to Ardoin is still playing baseball.

BigRapidsJackass · 06-03-2008, 10:10 AM

Somehow I've blocked out the fact that Hurdle will be managing the NL in the All Star Game. No way he gets fired before then. And didn't he pick Willie Randolph to be one of his coaches? I doubt the NY media will be similarly gentle on Willie.

05-30-2008, 07:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dante Bichette Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 268	Rock Bottom - Cubs 10, Rockies 9 Well, I have seen a lot of bad baseball this year from the local team, but this one takes the cake. They blew an 8-0 lead with Cook on the mound. Even Lou Pinella thought it was over, considering he took Derek Lee and Giavony Soto out of the game. I don't see how it can get much worse than this. As a Rockies fan, I can only hope the skid continues so that Hurdle and O'Dowd may be held accountable for once, not to mention ownership re-thinking their SOP.

05-31-2008, 02:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
GerryInCS Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 634	There is no BRJ, Jason Hirsh has sarted his rehab assignment, the sooner he's ready, the sooner that Rusch/Reynolds/Jimenez/De La Rosa gets moved out of the rotation and back to AAA where they damned well belong (or out baseball altogether for everyone but Jimenez) __________________ Americans aren't afraid of Mexicans, Americans are afraid that Mexicans are turning America into Mexico.

06-03-2008, 05:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
GerryInCS Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 634	Plus Reynolds serving up two more HRs (8 in his 5 starts) doesn't help. I was shocked to Ardoin is still playing baseball. __________________ Americans aren't afraid of Mexicans, Americans are afraid that Mexicans are turning America into Mexico.

05-31-2008, 02:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,146	Rockies Nation turns its lonely eyes to ... ... Glendon Rusch ... ... to rescue the season. Another example of how lost O'Dowd can get when things go wrong. Remember the "starting pitching depth" O'Dowd collected this year? Kip Wells: DL Mark Redman: back in AAA Josh Towers: started in AAA de la Rosa: relegated to the pen Let me pose one simple question: Dear Dan O'Dowd: You apparently expect Glendon Rusch to be "better" in some meaningful way than Josh Towers or Mark Redman. Please explain. Here's Heltonfan's preseason ERA projections. Note that none of the above has done anything this season to make us think that any of these guys is likely to outperform their projections: Redman: 5.17 Towers: 4.84 de la Rosa: 4.72 Rusch: 5.81 I can think of no reason -- absolutely none -- for why we would expect Rusch to be any better than the available in-house (and already on the payroll) candidates. They're all crap. They're all basically replacement level pitchers. That's why they're kicking around without jobs. This is not strategy. It is a lack of strategy. Let's pick up some other waiver wire guy and throw him out there; hey, he can't be worse than what we've tried before, right?

06-03-2008, 12:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,146	No offense, Bichette, but that Cubs game wasn't rock bottom. This is rock bottom. 8-2 loss to the previously punchless Dodgers. Bad pitching, no hitting, mental errors on defense, some obvious lack of effort (I'm talking to you, Yorvit ... move that butt and block those balls in the dirt). Time for a major rethinking. And I think it starts with sending Hurdle packing.

06-03-2008, 10:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
BigRapidsJackass Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,146	Somehow I've blocked out the fact that Hurdle will be managing the NL in the All Star Game. No way he gets fired before then. And didn't he pick Willie Randolph to be one of his coaches? I doubt the NY media will be similarly gentle on Willie.