random off-topic thread

[Newman]

Doing what is expected, would your father give you props for that? Mine wouldn't. Monfort/O'Dowd did what was expected over the winter. They didn't go the extra yard.

Posednik to a minor league deal? That's the best you can come up with as criticism of Monfort/O'Dowd, JC?

I think you're just trying to cozy up to me, show the group that you're really a nice guy deep down, and hope that we forget that you drove Roxpert out of the family.

That's not going to work with me, JC.

I miss Roxpert. He was the most important contributor to this site IMHO.

[John Cocktoston]

Originally Posted by Newman

I think you're just trying to cozy up to me, show the group that you're really a nice guy deep down, and hope that we forget that you drove Roxpert out of the family.

That's not going to work with me, JC.

I miss Roxpert. He was the most important contributor to this site IMHO.

Newman, please don't flatter yourself...

And again with the "Royal We", huh? Who, dare I ask, are you speaking for now, Newman?

Listen, I think I've demonstrated that I am not overly concerned with what you or your crony (singular) think of me.

Roxpert decided to leave and Roxpert can return whenever he pleases. That's called personal responsibility. I know it's a concept you people struggle with sometimes...

[BigRapidsJackass]

Bring back Roxpert!

Podsednik? Why? He's a horrible player. Really one of the worst (the worst?) "regular" player in baseball when you take into account that he's only equipped to play LF.

Last year everyone got bent out of shape when people like me went off on Finley and Erstad. Well guess what: we were right. Unlike last year, they seem to now understand that Spilly has value. Unless they're thinking trade (Willy T?) Even so, Podsednik is just about the worst answer out there. Even Erstad is probably more valuable since it appears that he's still got something left defensively.

EDIT: Looking through a few of the minor transactions I hadn't paid attention to, I found this:

Jody Gerut

Padres sign OF Jody Gerut to a minor league contract with invitation to spring training. Gerut is former Rox property, he had a couple nice seasons, and is now coming off an injury. He's 30. Will he make it back all the way? Probably not, and he was nothing special to begin with. BUT THERE'S A HELL OF A LOT BETTER CHANCE THAT HE'LL BE USEFUL TO A MAJOR LEAGUE CLUB! Just another example of how the Padres always seem to be watching the waiver wire and picking up useful players while we "snag" the Steve Finleys of the world.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by John Cocktoston

Newman, please don't flatter yourself...

And again with the "Royal We", huh? Who, dare I ask, are you speaking for now, Newman?

Listen, I think I've demonstrated that I am not overly concerned with what you or your crony (singular) think of me.

Roxpert decided to leave and Roxpert can return whenever he pleases. That's called personal responsibility. I know it's a concept you people struggle with sometimes...

I think it's pretty clear to everyone in this group, Cocktoston, that you only care about yourself.

I love your use of the phrase "you people". Telling.

This is a writing group. You drove out the best writer in the group. Be proud. And of course don't apologize. Republicans never apologize. It shows weakness.

And as a result our group is weaker because of YOU, Cocktoston. Will YOU take personal responsibility for YOUR part in that? The wrong guy left the group. It's sad. What do you ever add to this group anyway, besides a defense of Monfort?

Jackass, you were right about those over the hill players such as Finley. Props to you.

[John Cocktoston]

Originally Posted by Newman

I think it's pretty clear to everyone in this group, Cocktoston, that you only care about yourself.

Why don't you try to just speak for yourself for a change, Newman? You're constantly telling me what "everyone" feels and what "we" know. I think it's fairly selfish to presume that you speak for anyone other than yourself, let alone everyone else on this site or in this country. Why is your opinion any greater than anyone elses, Newman?

Originally Posted by Newman

I love your use of the phrase "you people". Telling.

Is it telling? What does it tell you? I used it to mean "you and people like you", but tell me what I really mean, Newman. Did Roxpert pass on his secret for divining the true meaning of what I say before he bailed on you?

Originally Posted by Newman

This is a writing group. You drove out the best writer in the group. Be proud. And of course don't apologize. Republicans never apologize. It shows weakness.

I didn't drive anyone anywhere, Newman. Roxpert decided to leave; it's as simple as that. When and if Roxpert decides to return, he will do so. I won't "bring him back" anymore than I "drove him away".

I have nothing to apologize for, though. The man implied that I am an anti-semite on the basis that I do not agree with his politics and he happens to be Jewish. That is a ****ing disgrace and he should be ashamed of himself. Hell, if I were him, I would have left too after saying something like that...

[indianadrew]

Originally Posted by Newman

Republicans never apologize. It shows weakness.

please newman... BS... thats like saying all democrats are skinny weaklings. i dont believe eithor.

as far as JC driving roxpert off the board, i think thats BS too. roxpert is a grown man, who makes his own decisions. nobody MADE him leave.

with that said, i have to semi-agree with what you said about roxpert being the most important poster on this board. he WAS a major contributor, but i would not say anybody is the MVP. i would like to see him come back, but his exit was a bit pretentious.

if hillary gets the nomination, i doubt she will win. i think there are too many people that dislike her. the republicans will beat her. if obama gets the nod, i think the democrats will win.

[Newman]

Drew, have you ever heard Bush apologize for taking us to war on a lie? For ruining our economy? He never did. He never will. Hillary never apologized for voting for the war in the beginning either. Maybe I should have said "politicians" never apologize because it shows weakness. My bad. I apologize (LOL).

Drew I never read the interaction between Roxpert and Coctoston; so I can't comment on it any more than I have. I agree with you. It was Roxpert's decision to leave. I would say he was the best writer in this group. Maybe Heltonfan is the best number cruncher, if we were to give out mvp awards each year. For me, I enjoy the writing more than the number crunching, which has to be distilled and interpreted and my math phobia precludes me from enjoying that very much.

Hillary v McCain would be interesting. The on air radio Conservatives absolutely HATE McCain. They may hate him more than Hillary, if that's possible. For the country's sake let's hope it doesn't come to that. The radio bigots don't care. All that hate stirs up their base and increases their ratings they think. And that's all that Rush, Hannity, and O'Reilly care about. Ratings and revenue. Not our country. Not the world.

[indianadrew]

you should go back and read it. it's good. 2 strong willed well-versed writers who have fundamentally opposite opinions. nothing is gonna give. some feelings were hurt. gotta go. later

[John Cocktoston]

Originally Posted by indianadrew

you should go back and read it. it's good. 2 strong willed well-versed writers who have fundamentally opposite opinions. nothing is gonna give. some feelings were hurt. gotta go. later

Just FYI, certain posts appear to have been removed. Specifically, the exchange during which he called me a "goosestepper", among other things, no longer appears on the thread.

It's not my call to make, but if anything is going to be removed, I would rather see the whole thing wiped out as opposed to a post here and a post there. Otherwise, none of what remains is in context.

[indianadrew]

The Politics Test!

cool test that seems pretty accurate

socially liberal/ fiscally conservative


i am libertarian...go figure

[wolf213]

Originally Posted by indianadrew

The Politics Test!

cool test that seems pretty accurate

socially liberal/ fiscally conservative


i am libertarian...go figure

Very cool test, I'm right where I thought I would be, Centrist

Social Moderate
(43% permissive)

Economic Moderate
(41% permissive)

[wolf213]

Originally Posted by Newman

Hillary v McCain would be interesting. The on air radio Conservatives absolutely HATE McCain. They may hate him more than Hillary, if that's possible.

Thats probably because McCain really is more of a moderate then he is conservative. I actually like the guy, but his age bothers me a bit much. But of the republican field, he's probably the best choice, and he's not your W. Bush republican thats for sure.

However, my vote goes to Obama. After 8 years of Bush, the country's leadership needs to swing a bit back to the middle again, and I think Obama is the guy to do that. While I don't agree with some of his policies, he is a very well spoken, and intelligent person, and he would be a breath of fresh air. I also think that he is capable of working across party lines to get things done.

I'm not a big fan of Billary, just because she has to much baggage, and she seems dishonest and like she would do whatever it takes to win. I have no facts to support this, but something about her just screams "I'm a snake". I've had more then enough Bush's and Clintons in my lifetime, and if America is ready for change, Obama is the guy to do it.

Basically though, if it comes time for November, and we have to choose between Obama and McCain, I think we are in pretty good shape either way.

[Newman]

McCain is an extreme hawk, which is a very Conservative view. He thinks we may have to stay in Iraq for 100 years. If elected how long would it take for him to attack, invade, and occupy Iran? Not long.

McCain is also anti abortion rights. He would nominate extreme Conservative Supreme Court Justices and America would go back to the dark ages, return to back alley abortions, where only the wealthy can fly to Sweden and get one. Every civilized western nation has abortion rights. McCain would do away with them.

He's a dinosaur. And a lame duck president as soon as he would be elected at age 72. Who's going to re-elect someone at age 76? No one.

[wolf213]

Originally Posted by Newman

McCain is an extreme hawk, which is a very Conservative view. He thinks we may have to stay in Iraq for 100 years. If elected how long would it take for him to attack, invade, and occupy Iran? Not long.

McCain is also anti abortion rights. He would nominate extreme Conservative Supreme Court Justices and America would go back to the dark ages, return to back alley abortions, where only the wealthy can fly to Sweden and get one. Every civilized western nation has abortion rights. McCain would do away with them.

He's a dinosaur. And a lame duck president as soon as he would be elected at age 72. Who's going to re-elect someone at age 76? No one.

Yup, but would you rather have Romney or Huckabey?

I'm also not sure if leaving Iraq would be a good thing or not. Sure its a screwed up situation, but we might make it worse by leaving.

[indianadrew]

YouTube - FSN Sport Science - Episode 4 - Cheap Shots - Crotch Test 2

ouch this was on fox sports net the other night