random off-topic thread

[Newman]

Will the players be wearing black face?

Who got to approve that? Everyone wears 42? Who's the GM at St Louis now? Who gets "credit for this?"

Hadn't heard of this.

You can learn a lot coming to this site.

It's retarded.

[indianadrew]

"Will the players be wearing black face?"

AYFKM wow newman that has to be one of the most insensitive things i have ever read. you just know somebody was going to say it though. leave it to newman to break the seal on that one.

i was listening to rome last week and he briefly had an author on. i dont think that it was a regular segment though. the author was getting ready to release a book that was memoirs of a baseball dad. i want to get this book and i cant find out who the author is. i thought i might ask here. he was on the tues or wed show last week. he told a story about being at his sons baaseball game and there not being an umpire. he regreted volunteering and advised against it.

anyway, if any of you guys can help me i would appreciate it

[indianadrew]

just read in the local rag that jose hernandez was going to be playing for the indianapolis indians this season

[Newman]

Drew, I heard that same interview. I can't recall the author either, but I do remember that advice about not umpiring.

I generally listen to Dan Patrick instead of Romey. I get tired of the clones after awhile. I'd rather hear sportswriters. Gammons. Kirkjian. It was a better show when Dan had Rob Dibble on as his sidekick. Almost all shows are better with a partner.

Have you tried going to Rome's website. Maybe there's some mention of the author there.

[Newman]

Drew, I didn't mean my blackface comment to be insensitive. I am not Don Imus. I was just elaborating on the "retarded" comment of the Jackass, everyone wearing number 42 today, to honor Jackie Robinson.

I've heard it both ways, that it's stupid and that its a great honor for Jackie.

I don't know.

White people wearing 42 to honor JR?

What was the high percentage wise of blacks in baseball, in the l970s? Now it's down to 8%. Are there teams where there are no blacks now? But now there are Asians and Latinos by the score. There is some diversity, except in ownership, management, front office of course.

I guess I'll have to see the highlights tonite. What it looks like to see everyone on a team wearing 42. It still seems like a circus. I don't think of Jackie Robinson as some sort of clown in a circus.

I didn't know he was court martialed in the Army for refusing to go to the back of the bus. Was this before the Rosa Parks thing? He won that battle. He lost his battle with diabetes. Stem cell research comes to mind as I sip my coffee.

Maybe MLB should contribute to Diabetes cures, as a tribute to Jackie...

[indianadrew]

newman,

i agree with your comment. they are making a mockery of the whole situation. do you think jackie robinson would want all this attention. i dont think that he would. i found out who wrote that book. dan schaunessy from the boston globe. i am getting it for my dad for his birthday.
BTW #42 is not completly retired from baseball anyway. it is turning into a circus as you said.

days like today just keep bring up the fact that only 60 years ago there was not racial equality. i for one was not born then, and i have always treated others based on the content of their character not on the color of their skin.

with that said i dont feel like an entire team of #42's is an appropriate way to honor a man who just wanted to play baseball.

[Newman]

What are our Rockies doing to celebrate Jackie Robinson Day.?

I also don't like it that it's on April 15. That is Tax Day in America. It's a stressed out angry day for a lot of us.

JR day should be a day of celebration, not of stress, a day of racial equality, a day of not judging a person by his skin color.

Isn't Latroy Hawkins going to be our #42 today? Is that really honoring Jackie? Didn't Latroy blow the game last night? How is an ERA of 10.13 an honor?

I heard that baseball was Jackie's 4th best sport. If he were alive today, and a teenager, he'd probably be playing football or B-ball, and he wasn't tall enough for basketball.

I think Jackie might speak out against Don Imus. Then again he might speak out against Rush Limbaugh too. Rush called Barack Obama a "halfrican American."

Wasn't Jackie Robinson a Republican? My memory thinks that? I wonder if he still would be if he were alive today...

[BigRapidsJackass]

Isn't Latroy Hawkins going to be our #42 today? Is that really honoring Jackie? Didn't Latroy blow the game last night? How is an ERA of 10.13 an honor?

I was waiting for someone to bring that up.

As for honoring Robinson: my objection is that the attempt at honoring him is cheapened when whole team do it. It starts to look like a publicity stunt rather than a heart-felt remembrance.

And I have no problem with white or Latin players wearing 42, too. I just think it never should've gone beyone one per team. Griffey? Well, the message is "If not for Jackie, who knows when and if my dad would've been able to play." Clubs should've talked about it and decided who should wear the number today, and why. Instead, we got a "me too" type response. It'll look kind of silly when espn shows a scoreboard with a batting order of 9 "#42s."

And Newman: Jackie was probably a Republican like many African Americans of the time. It was the party of Lincoln, and the southern Dems were the party of segregation. To me it is a shame that the Republicans -- starting with Nixon, and increasing in force with Reagan/Lee Atwater and Bush/Rove -- sold their heritage to get more southern white votes.

[Heltonfan]

And I have no problem with white or Latin players wearing 42, too. I just think it never should've gone beyond one per team.

Well, if you limit it to one per team, there's no way that any of the teams would give the number to a white player (except for the Astros, I guess). It would look awfully ridiculous for, say, Holliday to wear the number and Hawkins not to.

Also, it's a moot point thanks to the rain on the East Coast today, but would you really want to make Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, and Tom Gordon draw straws? I'd rather eliminate the whole thing (with the possible exception of Griffey, since it was his idea) than limit it to one per team.

[Newman]

It got out of control (the celebration of Jackie Robinson). Of course, who was trying to control it? The Commish, Bud Selig? Bud, the guy who did nothing about steroids in baseball?

It got kind of nuts when whole teams were wearing 42. Then you could choose if you wanted to or not? So if a white guy on a mixed team chooses not to wear 42 does that mean he's a racist?

Jackass, thanks for the history lesson about the Republican party, Jackie, the party of Lincoln and so forth.

Hard to concentrate on anything other than this Virginia Tech massacre. 31 deaths? Gunman carried no ID with him. Two hour gap between the first shoooting and then the big massacre. Biggest mass murder in American history.

[indianadrew]

two nintey year old men, moe and sam had been friends their whole lives. sam is dying, and moe comes to visit him every day.

sam, says moe, you and i have both loved baseball all our lives. we played minor league ball together for so many years.

sam, you have to do me one favor, says moe. when you get to heaven, and i know you will, somehow you have got to let me know if there is baseball in heaven.

sam looks at moe from his deathbed and says. moe, you have been my friend for many, many years. this favor, if at all possible, you know i'll do it for you.

shortly after that sam passses on.

it is midnight a couple of nights later. moe is sound asleep, and suddenly awoke by a bright light. a voice calls out to him. moe...moe..moe.

who is it? says moe. who the f@#K is there?

moe it's me, sam.

come on, you're not sam. sam died two days ago.

i'm telling you it's really me, sam.

sam! is that really you? where are you?

i am in heaven and i have some news for you, alot of good, and a bit of bad news.

so.. tell me the good news first, says moe.

the good news, says sam, is there is baseball in heaven, all the old guys are there, we are all young. we can play forever and never get tired.

thats wonderful!, says sam. that is fantastic, wonderful beyond my wildest dreams. what's the bad news?

you're pitching next tuesday.

[indianadrew]

i have to tell you guys about a bet that i lost this weekend. being a native new yorker, i am a yankees fan. i made a bet on the series at fenway. friday i will be wearing a man-ram jersey.

i thought it was pretty cool that denver had a big celebration on april 20th at 16:20hrs. it made the front page of the post.

you people in colorado are cool.

[indianadrew]

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well i honored my bet and had to sport the man-ram jersey at work on friday. hopefully that brings us some karma this weekend. hey, i guy can dream

[RMF]

Well today begins another NY/Boston series. I know I'll be watching. Any bets we should know about? Good of you to honor the ManRam commitment. There are lots of no good welchers out there. Glad you're not one of them.

Aspire still owes me loads of 6-packs from some rather unscientific bets he made years ago. That was before the PhD and the new lab coat.

Dice K and Pettitte go tonight. Should be a good one.

[indianadrew]

we are going to have the same bet this weekend. if i win i may go out and buy i j damon jersey so red sox fan can wear it.