How bout that Cliff Lee?

Damnitmike · 07-26-2007, 09:46 PM

He's really gaining a fan base eh?

He's pitching horribly, and displaying a spoiled brat attitude to go with it.

Nice tip of the cap to you Cliff too.

bedir than average · 07-26-2007, 09:51 PM

Are the Tribe (not the fans) going to give up on him?

1Perry · 07-26-2007, 10:54 PM

Makes it rough to win a division when one of the parts you counted on isn't performing (and Lee certainly isn't) but the same question could have been asked about Carmona last year.

JMUplayer · 07-27-2007, 09:53 AM

Cliff has a spotty MLB record generally. People thinking he'll be a #2 starter after his one decent year are really fooling themselves. He'll end up being a #4-#5 starter because of his talent.

unreal654 · 07-27-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JMUplayer

Cliff has a spotty MLB record generally. People thinking he'll be a #2 starter after his one decent year are really fooling themselves. He'll end up being a #4-#5 starter because of his talent.

He DOES have 46 wins over his last 3 seasons. I understand your point though, his ERA has jumped around over the years. I was hoping we could expect some more consistancy out of Lee this year, but he just doesn't have the same command he did in 2005.

Damnitmike · 07-27-2007, 01:17 PM

And then you throw in some bad outtings by Jake, and it looks uglier than it is....

I don't know if the Tribe have thrown up their hands yet, I doubt it, but his last performance was ugly.....And I don't think him tipping his hat to booing fans when he was pulled set a class example either....

I have to admit, I was not really a fan of Lee's.....

And with Miller in the Minors, injured AGAIN, I'm not sure we'll see much help there for awhile...

unreal654 · 07-27-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Damnitmike

And with Miller in the Minors, injured AGAIN, I'm not sure we'll see much help there for awhile...

Dare I mention... Jeremy Sowers? He's looked good his last two starts. It's hard to imagine he can help after the way he looked at the beginning of the year, but you never know. Help can come from unexpected places...

Damnitmike · 07-27-2007, 04:43 PM

Jeremy has 2 wins in a row as of today....Good point unreal654, he's still in the loop....

And guess who got a Triple A demotion today?

Indians send struggling left-hander Cliff Lee to Triple-A Buffalo - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

1Perry · 07-27-2007, 05:13 PM

I drove by the ballpark In Buffalo yesterday. It's a really beautiful park. Somehow I doubt Lee sees it that way. LOL

Damnitmike · 07-27-2007, 06:08 PM

If you drive by again #1, give Cliffy a tip of the cap from me .....

LOL...

unreal654 · 07-28-2007, 12:30 AM

From The Official Site of The Cleveland Indians: Homepage

"The Indians' top starting option at Buffalo is left-hander Aaron Laffey (7-3, 3.22 ERA), and he is expected to replace Lee in the rotation next week. Because of Monday's off-day, the club can reshuffle its rotation and avoid having to fill Lee's spot until Aug. 4."

unreal654 · 08-16-2007, 01:34 AM

There are reports that Cliff Lee will be starting for the Indians once the 5th spot in the rotation comes around again.

unreal654 · 08-25-2007, 07:29 PM

Aaron Laffey is back in action tonight against the Royals. His performance will strongly influence when or if Cliff Lee returns to the rotation.

1Perry · 08-25-2007, 09:20 PM

I don't think anyone can complain about his outing tonight. The bats finally wake up at that. Have to wonder what C.C. thinks. Laffey gives up two and likely wins. C.C. gives up two and loses.

unreal654 · 09-02-2007, 10:54 AM

It appears that the Indians are sticking with Laffey as the 5th starter... they have announced that Cliff Lee will be used as a long reliever/spot starter down the stretch.

07-26-2007, 09:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
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07-26-2007, 09:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
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07-27-2007, 01:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Damnitmike Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 65	And then you throw in some bad outtings by Jake, and it looks uglier than it is.... I don't know if the Tribe have thrown up their hands yet, I doubt it, but his last performance was ugly.....And I don't think him tipping his hat to booing fans when he was pulled set a class example either.... I have to admit, I was not really a fan of Lee's..... And with Miller in the Minors, injured AGAIN, I'm not sure we'll see much help there for awhile... __________________ Never argue with an idiot. First, they drag you down to their level. Then, they beat you with experience. Stop In To The Tribe Zone! Come Get Your Indians Toolbar! This Thing Rocks! Check it out Here!

07-27-2007, 04:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Damnitmike Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 65	Jeremy has 2 wins in a row as of today....Good point unreal654, he's still in the loop.... And guess who got a Triple A demotion today? Indians send struggling left-hander Cliff Lee to Triple-A Buffalo - MLB - Yahoo! Sports __________________ Never argue with an idiot. First, they drag you down to their level. Then, they beat you with experience. Stop In To The Tribe Zone! Come Get Your Indians Toolbar! This Thing Rocks! Check it out Here!

07-27-2007, 06:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Damnitmike Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 65	If you drive by again #1, give Cliffy a tip of the cap from me ..... LOL... __________________ Never argue with an idiot. First, they drag you down to their level. Then, they beat you with experience. Stop In To The Tribe Zone! Come Get Your Indians Toolbar! This Thing Rocks! Check it out Here!

07-26-2007, 10:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
1Perry Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,534	Makes it rough to win a division when one of the parts you counted on isn't performing (and Lee certainly isn't) but the same question could have been asked about Carmona last year.

07-27-2007, 09:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
JMUplayer Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 204	Cliff has a spotty MLB record generally. People thinking he'll be a #2 starter after his one decent year are really fooling themselves. He'll end up being a #4-#5 starter because of his talent.

07-27-2007, 05:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
1Perry Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,534	I drove by the ballpark In Buffalo yesterday. It's a really beautiful park. Somehow I doubt Lee sees it that way. LOL

07-28-2007, 12:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 325	From The Official Site of The Cleveland Indians: Homepage "The Indians' top starting option at Buffalo is left-hander Aaron Laffey (7-3, 3.22 ERA), and he is expected to replace Lee in the rotation next week. Because of Monday's off-day, the club can reshuffle its rotation and avoid having to fill Lee's spot until Aug. 4."

08-16-2007, 01:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 325	There are reports that Cliff Lee will be starting for the Indians once the 5th spot in the rotation comes around again.

08-25-2007, 07:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 325	Aaron Laffey is back in action tonight against the Royals. His performance will strongly influence when or if Cliff Lee returns to the rotation.

08-25-2007, 09:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
1Perry Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,534	I don't think anyone can complain about his outing tonight. The bats finally wake up at that. Have to wonder what C.C. thinks. Laffey gives up two and likely wins. C.C. gives up two and loses.

09-02-2007, 10:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
unreal654 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 325	It appears that the Indians are sticking with Laffey as the 5th starter... they have announced that Cliff Lee will be used as a long reliever/spot starter down the stretch.