Potential Gasol Trade

The Truth · 02-06-2007, 09:15 PM

I figured if there was anyone checking out this board, this might be the topic that could get them talking. What players are you willing to give up for Gasol? Who is off limits?

For me, Gordon is off-limits and I'd rather not trade Deng. Anyone else: fair game.

Including Deng depends upon the other elements of the trade. I would prefer to not sacrifice his potential for a player that he may be better than in a couple of years. Especially if we're also giving up expiring contracts and a draft pick.

The Truth · 02-09-2007, 12:11 PM

I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading Gordon, as long as the trade doesn't include both Tyrus and the Knicks first round pick.

I don't want to make a brash judgment based on Gordon's recent slump, but his play of late has just reminded me how frustratingly inconsistent he is.

bedir than average · 02-09-2007, 12:18 PM

The Bulls would likely go from being a good team to great with the addition of Gasol.

What would the starting five be with Gasol as the possibilities at this time?

The Truth · 02-09-2007, 12:55 PM

If Gordon is the key component of the trade, I imagine the starting five would look like:

PG: Duhon
SG: Hinrich
SF: Deng
PF: Gasol
C: Wallace

If Deng is traded:

PG: Hinrich
SG: Gordon
SF: Nocioni
PF: Gasol
C: Wallace

If the Bulls could pull the trade off with Nocioni and a combination of Tyrus Thomas, Thabo Sefolosha, PJ Brown's contract, and draft picks, the starting lineup would be sick:

PG: Hinrich
SG: Gordon
SF: Deng
PF: Gasol
C: Wallace

There are also trade possibilities where the Bulls would receive Dahntay Jones and/or Hakim Warrick, but I doubt either player would crack the starting lineup, unless Skiles decided he'd rather start Jones at shooting guard and move Hinrich to point guard in the first scenario.

JoseA · 02-09-2007, 05:58 PM

PG: Hinrich
SG: Gordon
SF: Deng
PF: Gasol
C: Wallace

This would be an amazing lineup and would definetly, 100 percent put us on top of the East. Just dont trade any of the young guys lazy gm/ we need them. Gasol would have an immediate impact. Just keep the other 4 and we are as fine as wine.

The Truth · 02-11-2007, 12:39 AM

I'm beginning to think that Gordon isn't off limits, as long as we don't give up the Knicks pick along with him. Of course, this is only a last resort.

I don't want to make a brash judgment based on his recent slump, but this slump has reminded me how inconsistent he is. Ben Gordon is an enigma.

I would still love to see Pax pull this trade off without including Gordon or Deng.

JoseA · 02-11-2007, 06:17 PM

Same, I hope he dont include the youngins, but I have a feeling in order to get Gaso he might have too...

samizdat · 02-12-2007, 06:24 PM

I say anyone but Gordon. I think Gordon would benefit the most from the addition of Gasol, so why get rid of him?

BravesRule22 · 02-12-2007, 09:56 PM

Deng would be the only off-limits guy if I was the bulls. I would try and NOT deal Tyrus either but he wouldnt be a deal breaker, especially for Gasol.

I would trade Gordon in a heart beat, yes he is young and shows signs but he is way too up and down to say he is untouchable. You can find a guy that can shoot 3's like him its much tougher to find a guy like Gasol or Deng.

Gordon, Sweets and a # 1...something like that for Gasol

IF the Grizz would bite on that, I would do if I were the Bulls

The Truth · 02-12-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BravesRule22

Deng would be the only off-limits guy if I was the bulls. I would try and NOT deal Tyrus either but he wouldnt be a deal breaker, especially for Gasol.

I would trade Gordon in a heart beat, yes he is young and shows signs but he is way too up and down to say he is untouchable. You can find a guy that can shoot 3's like him its much tougher to find a guy like Gasol or Deng.

Gordon, Sweets and a # 1...something like that for Gasol

IF the Grizz would bite on that, I would do if I were the Bulls

It's interesting to get an outside perspective; most Bulls fans think that Gordon is off limits and Deng should be traded if that's what it takes.

I would love to keep them both, but like I said, I'm coming around to the idea of it being Gordon.

There is the possibility that Dahntay Jones could be included in the deal, which would give the Bulls a shooting guard in return, but I still think they would need to make another trade to get a decent shooting guard as a stop gap. Thabo Sefolosha just isn't ready for big minutes yet.

BravesRule22 · 02-12-2007, 10:34 PM

IF you could have pulled the trigger on this before the Grizz cut Eddie Jones that would have been a guy that could have stepped right in for Gordon. Guy can still play and plays very good D and still can stroke it from down town.

But thats no longer possible

You guys can find a SG, I mean look @ what Jason Kapano is doing now......pretty much came out of nowhere. Find a guy that can shoot and if you have a good PG they will find him open looks.

The Truth · 02-13-2007, 08:00 AM

This from today's Sun-Times:

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But turn a deaf ear to the crazy talk emanating from Memphis that a package of Luol Deng, Andres Nocioni and a first-round draft pick would seal such a deal.

You think? Why not add Ben Gordon's name to this Christmas list?

This is PG, not KG, right?

Sure, there's a lot to like about Gasol. But how many of the team's 12 playoff games have the Grizzlies won the last three seasons?

Zero would be the correct answer for those scoring at home.

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As it is, Paxson has some tough choices to make should Memphis slip back into the real world when talking trade. Or should he set his sights lower, perhaps on Charlotte's Melvin Ely, whom the Bulls will get a good look at when they visit the Bobcats on Wednesday?

It would seem illogical that the Detroit Pistons, as some have suggested, would be interested in helping the Bulls' playoff position, even if Nazr Mohammed is available. Ditto the Washington Wizards and Etan Thomas.

CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bulls :: Bulls will get a big man, but it might not be Pau

BravesRule22 · 02-13-2007, 10:10 AM

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Sure, there's a lot to like about Gasol. But how many of the team's 12 playoff games have the Grizzlies won the last three seasons?

Zero would be the correct answer for those scoring at home.

That point is meaningless to me....

Who exactly has Gasol had around him that would help him win a playoff series.

Hinrich, Deng, Ben, Noci is ten times better than anything Gasol has had around him in recent years

The Truth · 02-13-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BravesRule22

That point is meaningless to me....

Who exactly has Gasol had around him that would help him win a playoff series.

Hinrich, Deng, Ben, Noci is ten times better than anything Gasol has had around him in recent years

I agree that it is overly simplistic to just say, "well how many playoff games has Gasol won?" However, I do think some of his Grizzlies teams were sort of underrated. While they obviously lacked star power (outside of Gasol), they were very deep. The 2004-2005 team had seven players average double figures in scoring, and ten players averaged at least 8 points per game.

samizdat · 02-13-2007, 11:53 AM

I don't know, I just don't think we can give up Gordon. I think he and Gasol would feed off each other, and the Bulls would finally have the inside-out game they've been missing the last two years.

I also can't see giving up Hinrich. He does too much for this team, and we would especially miss his defense. I like Duhon, but he's definitely a backup point guard.

02-06-2007, 09:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Truth Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: I am in here. Posts: 110	Potential Gasol Trade I figured if there was anyone checking out this board, this might be the topic that could get them talking. What players are you willing to give up for Gasol? Who is off limits? For me, Gordon is off-limits and I'd rather not trade Deng. Anyone else: fair game. Including Deng depends upon the other elements of the trade. I would prefer to not sacrifice his potential for a player that he may be better than in a couple of years. Especially if we're also giving up expiring contracts and a draft pick.

02-09-2007, 12:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
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02-09-2007, 05:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
JoseA Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,097	PG: Hinrich SG: Gordon SF: Deng PF: Gasol C: Wallace This would be an amazing lineup and would definetly, 100 percent put us on top of the East. Just dont trade any of the young guys lazy gm/ we need them. Gasol would have an immediate impact. Just keep the other 4 and we are as fine as wine. __________________ Register here and join the discussion

02-11-2007, 06:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
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02-12-2007, 09:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	Deng would be the only off-limits guy if I was the bulls. I would try and NOT deal Tyrus either but he wouldnt be a deal breaker, especially for Gasol. I would trade Gordon in a heart beat, yes he is young and shows signs but he is way too up and down to say he is untouchable. You can find a guy that can shoot 3's like him its much tougher to find a guy like Gasol or Deng. Gordon, Sweets and a # 1...something like that for Gasol IF the Grizz would bite on that, I would do if I were the Bulls __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

02-09-2007, 12:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
The Truth Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: I am in here. Posts: 110	I'm starting to come around on the idea of trading Gordon, as long as the trade doesn't include both Tyrus and the Knicks first round pick. I don't want to make a brash judgment based on Gordon's recent slump, but his play of late has just reminded me how frustratingly inconsistent he is.

02-09-2007, 12:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
The Truth Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: I am in here. Posts: 110	If Gordon is the key component of the trade, I imagine the starting five would look like: PG: Duhon SG: Hinrich SF: Deng PF: Gasol C: Wallace If Deng is traded: PG: Hinrich SG: Gordon SF: Nocioni PF: Gasol C: Wallace If the Bulls could pull the trade off with Nocioni and a combination of Tyrus Thomas, Thabo Sefolosha, PJ Brown's contract, and draft picks, the starting lineup would be sick: PG: Hinrich SG: Gordon SF: Deng PF: Gasol C: Wallace There are also trade possibilities where the Bulls would receive Dahntay Jones and/or Hakim Warrick, but I doubt either player would crack the starting lineup, unless Skiles decided he'd rather start Jones at shooting guard and move Hinrich to point guard in the first scenario.

02-11-2007, 12:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Truth Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: I am in here. Posts: 110	I'm beginning to think that Gordon isn't off limits, as long as we don't give up the Knicks pick along with him. Of course, this is only a last resort. I don't want to make a brash judgment based on his recent slump, but this slump has reminded me how inconsistent he is. Ben Gordon is an enigma. I would still love to see Pax pull this trade off without including Gordon or Deng.

02-12-2007, 06:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
samizdat New Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	I say anyone but Gordon. I think Gordon would benefit the most from the addition of Gasol, so why get rid of him?

02-12-2007, 10:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	IF you could have pulled the trigger on this before the Grizz cut Eddie Jones that would have been a guy that could have stepped right in for Gordon. Guy can still play and plays very good D and still can stroke it from down town. But thats no longer possible You guys can find a SG, I mean look @ what Jason Kapano is doing now......pretty much came out of nowhere. Find a guy that can shoot and if you have a good PG they will find him open looks. __________________ Braves, Knicks, Bucs, Louisville

02-13-2007, 11:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
samizdat New Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	I don't know, I just don't think we can give up Gordon. I think he and Gasol would feed off each other, and the Bulls would finally have the inside-out game they've been missing the last two years. I also can't see giving up Hinrich. He does too much for this team, and we would especially miss his defense. I like Duhon, but he's definitely a backup point guard.