The best financial model

bedir than average · 11-26-2006, 08:42 PM

Which financial model produces the most pleasing mix of Free Agency, Trades and Competitive Balance?

Each is summed up in breif, but those seem to be the models in use at this time.

dlb · 11-26-2006, 10:40 PM

I think Europe has the best approach, where pro teams are sponsored by corporations. Then, you can just let the market rule, instead of all these silly devices for ensuring competitive balance.

bedir than average · 11-27-2006, 06:38 PM

I have always found it funny that free market USA prefers its sports to be socialist and the socialist democracies of Europe prefer their sports to be free market.

steeplechase3k · 11-27-2006, 09:11 PM

The Euro Football modle really stinks for fans of all but the top few teams.

The plus is that ANY team can win it all. You can enter at the lowest levels and if you win, you move up one level at a time and eventualy can be in the EPL... Plus they have multinational cups...

PredDave · 11-28-2006, 04:47 PM

I like the high revenue sharing of NFL mixed with the framework of the NHL financial model.

Basically, if you distributed TV revenue money (and increased its' footprint substantially), I think the NHL would be more successful!

11-29-2006, 04:47 PM

NFL because any team could win any week and lose the next.
Also the drafts and injures balance it out

bedir than average · 11-29-2006, 06:53 PM

I don't like the NFL, because trades are just so rare. Players don't change teams during their prime. Part of that is what makes other sports popular in the offseason.

In the NFL it is the first contract when the vast majority of players are of value.

TheAJx · 11-29-2006, 07:23 PM

But that's what makes TEAMS popular - same names, same faces. Most of these NBA teams are completely revamped within 5 years. Remember the Bulls dual three peats? Only Jordan and Pippen were around for all six of them.

bedir than average · 11-29-2006, 07:51 PM

I'll see if I can find it but the average career in each sport is different. The shortest career length is the NFL, about three years. That is probably a large reason why fans don't care if players move. The players just aren't likely to be around long enough anyway.

And AJx, check out the roster of the New England Patriots. It is a dynasty of sorts, but very few on its current roster were on the first Super Championship club.

DR3AMR · 10-30-2007, 12:14 AM

The best financial model is the one that produces the overall healthiest league.

Right now, the NFL rules. The NBA sucks hardcore. And MLB is somewhere in between.

As much as I hate the wildcard and the 5 game division series, I really think they've aided in giving some of the lower payroll teams a shot at the WS.

pacino · 01-04-2008, 01:17 AM

I find it interesting people love quasi-socialism in their sports leagues, but not the other markets.

DR3AMR · 01-15-2008, 10:40 PM

I find it interesting that people like to draw parallels between the two.

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11-27-2006, 06:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	I have always found it funny that free market USA prefers its sports to be socialist and the socialist democracies of Europe prefer their sports to be free market. __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

11-27-2006, 09:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
steeplechase3k Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 125	The Euro Football modle really stinks for fans of all but the top few teams. The plus is that ANY team can win it all. You can enter at the lowest levels and if you win, you move up one level at a time and eventualy can be in the EPL... Plus they have multinational cups... __________________ --There are some who call me... Tim.--

11-29-2006, 06:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	I don't like the NFL, because trades are just so rare. Players don't change teams during their prime. Part of that is what makes other sports popular in the offseason. In the NFL it is the first contract when the vast majority of players are of value. __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

11-29-2006, 07:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
bedir than average Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Starbucks Posts: 8,256	I'll see if I can find it but the average career in each sport is different. The shortest career length is the NFL, about three years. That is probably a large reason why fans don't care if players move. The players just aren't likely to be around long enough anyway. And AJx, check out the roster of the New England Patriots. It is a dynasty of sorts, but very few on its current roster were on the first Super Championship club. __________________ US Men's National Team World Cup Qualifying \| Democracy in Sports Meets My First Campaign "You're only so sure you're right because they're so sure you're wrong." Orson Scott Card in Xenocide

11-26-2006, 10:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
dlb Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,293	I think Europe has the best approach, where pro teams are sponsored by corporations. Then, you can just let the market rule, instead of all these silly devices for ensuring competitive balance.

11-28-2006, 04:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
PredDave Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 832	I like the high revenue sharing of NFL mixed with the framework of the NHL financial model. Basically, if you distributed TV revenue money (and increased its' footprint substantially), I think the NHL would be more successful!

11-29-2006, 04:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
liljohn Guest Posts: n/a	NFL because any team could win any week and lose the next. Also the drafts and injures balance it out

11-29-2006, 07:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
TheAJx Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 842	But that's what makes TEAMS popular - same names, same faces. Most of these NBA teams are completely revamped within 5 years. Remember the Bulls dual three peats? Only Jordan and Pippen were around for all six of them.

10-30-2007, 12:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
DR3AMR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,560	The best financial model is the one that produces the overall healthiest league. Right now, the NFL rules. The NBA sucks hardcore. And MLB is somewhere in between. As much as I hate the wildcard and the 5 game division series, I really think they've aided in giving some of the lower payroll teams a shot at the WS.

01-04-2008, 01:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
pacino Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 343	I find it interesting people love quasi-socialism in their sports leagues, but not the other markets.

01-15-2008, 10:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
DR3AMR Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 4,560	I find it interesting that people like to draw parallels between the two. __________________ Obama/Ayers 2008