manny to padres

batmanv · 11-29-2006, 09:14 AM

weei sports radio, boston , peavy/linebrink/a.gonzalez/ plus portion of manny's contract. if your going to trade him, this is the best deal i've heard. plus okajima a 30 yr lefty will sign with sox, i read this a few days after sox won bid on dice-k,on japan ball. com and now weei is reporting this. today also.

Zen653 · 11-29-2006, 12:45 PM

I like the idea of acquiring Peavy, Gonzalez and Linebrink for Ramirez, Lowell and cash. That's by far the best deal available. Peavy would be excellent insurance in case the Matsuzaka deal falls through. We could also use him as trade bait if Roger Clemens joins the team.

"Pessimistic" Scenario #1:

Schilling
Beckett
Peavy
Papelbon
Wakefield

Scenario #2:

Schilling
Beckett
Peavy
Matsuzaka
Papelbon
(Wakefield to the bullpen)

Ideal Scenario #3:

Clemens
Schilling
Beckett
Matsuzaka
Papelbon
(Wakefield to the bullpen)

Then spin Peavy, Pena and Hansen to Baltimore for Miguel Tejada and a low-level prospect. Re-sign Nixon for LF.

CF Crisp
3B Youkilis
DH Ortiz
SS Tejada
RF Drew
1B Gonzalez
LF Nixon
C Varitek
2B Pedroia

C Mirabelli?
1B/3B/OF Hinske
INF Cora
OF Murphy

SP Clemens
SP Schilling
SP Beckett
SP Matsuzaka
SP Papelbon

RHP Linebrink
RHP Timlin
RHP Tavarez
RHP Wakefield
RHP Delcarmen
LHP Gabbard
LHP Breslow

AutomatedTeller · 11-29-2006, 12:47 PM

Welcome new poster!!

nice to see you again, Zen.

WhosyourPapi???? · 11-29-2006, 06:22 PM

[quote=Zen653;6161]
Then spin Peavy, Pena and Hansen to Baltimore for Miguel Tejada and a low-level prospect. Re-sign Nixon for LF

If Boston gets Peavy, they will keep him. I think Tejada is a good playr but he's kinda the same as Manny being Manny. Welcome Zen(i am soxrock34 on scout)

SportsFanForLife · 11-29-2006, 09:11 PM

hey hey Zen - I haven't heard anything about this trade. Not to say it isn't true, but it would be all over the place. Would Manny waive his 10-5 for the Pads?

Dan · 11-29-2006, 09:17 PM

I've seen nothing of this trade. Any links to this?

Oh yeah...If the Padres do this, it would be a awful trade for them.

Zen653 · 11-30-2006, 10:07 AM

There was some mention on Rotoworld and WEEI that the Padres were willing to significantly increase their trade offer. Jake Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez were both mentioned as possibilities. This is probably an unrealistic expectation to land one or even both of them. Throwing in Lowell was my idea, as perhaps a way to entice the Padres a bit more. They expressed interest in him last year.

SportsFanForLife · 11-30-2006, 04:41 PM

If Lowell went in we'd have to chip in some insane amount of money to cover part of him/Manny.

EnderSwarm · 11-30-2006, 05:49 PM

Welcome back to a Red Sox board, Zen.

Papi4President · 12-01-2006, 09:13 AM

I have seen the possibility of Peavy/Linbrink/Gonzales listed in several places.... but I think it is simple specualtion at this point.

"IF" we were to make this deal.... (assuming D_Mat) has already signed...
What should we do next?...
I think we should turn to the Rangers (who need pitching and OF'ers desperately) and offer them a trade for pitching.... I am not sure who we would want to offer them.... but Maybe Peavy and Murphy + a prospect for Texiera....
That would bring back some power to this team...
I fear that Trading Manny and bringing Drew in as a "replacement" means we will be right back in the same doldrums this team was in for most of the
80's .... good enough to step on the field and get their butt beat....

Navin Johnson · 12-03-2006, 03:37 PM

The Padres will not part with either AGon or Peavy, let alone both of them. This trade is BS, if it was offered by Kevin Towers, Theo would have said yes is 2 seconds flat, it would be done already (because it is a ridiculous deal from the Pads point).

Peavy is signed very cheap for the next three seasons (avg salary around 7mil) which makes him all that more valuable, plus their emerging star first baseman? Please. The Pads have enough holes to fill right now, let alone creating two more by filling one.

We can give you Giles/Greene/Linebrink, and we take all of Manny's contract. Take it or leave it.

bulldoggie · 12-03-2006, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Take it or leave it.

May as well lock this thread. The Padres GM has spoken.

MuffinMcFluffin · 12-03-2006, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulldoggie

May as well lock this thread. The Padres GM has spoken.

And what did he say?

WhosyourPapi???? · 12-03-2006, 04:34 PM

^^^^ He said that theres no way he will trade Peavy or Gonzalez. And that Peavy is his excellent ace and how Gonzalez is the future face of the franchise.

Lou · 12-03-2006, 07:59 PM

Manny is to valuable to the offense to much care what he wants. If management decides to keep him, Manny will produce his standard numbers. No team can or will give Boston fair value for Manny. At this point, I would get JD Drew and keep Manny unless Baltimore would work a deal that includesTejada.

11-29-2006, 09:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
batmanv New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: cape cod Posts: 3	manny to padres weei sports radio, boston , peavy/linebrink/a.gonzalez/ plus portion of manny's contract. if your going to trade him, this is the best deal i've heard. plus okajima a 30 yr lefty will sign with sox, i read this a few days after sox won bid on dice-k,on japan ball. com and now weei is reporting this. today also.

12-03-2006, 03:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Navin Johnson Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 79	The Padres will not part with either AGon or Peavy, let alone both of them. This trade is BS, if it was offered by Kevin Towers, Theo would have said yes is 2 seconds flat, it would be done already (because it is a ridiculous deal from the Pads point). Peavy is signed very cheap for the next three seasons (avg salary around 7mil) which makes him all that more valuable, plus their emerging star first baseman? Please. The Pads have enough holes to fill right now, let alone creating two more by filling one. We can give you Giles/Greene/Linebrink, and we take all of Manny's contract. Take it or leave it. __________________ I was born a poor black child...

11-29-2006, 12:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zen653 Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,726	I like the idea of acquiring Peavy, Gonzalez and Linebrink for Ramirez, Lowell and cash. That's by far the best deal available. Peavy would be excellent insurance in case the Matsuzaka deal falls through. We could also use him as trade bait if Roger Clemens joins the team. "Pessimistic" Scenario #1: Schilling Beckett Peavy Papelbon Wakefield Scenario #2: Schilling Beckett Peavy Matsuzaka Papelbon (Wakefield to the bullpen) Ideal Scenario #3: Clemens Schilling Beckett Matsuzaka Papelbon (Wakefield to the bullpen) Then spin Peavy, Pena and Hansen to Baltimore for Miguel Tejada and a low-level prospect. Re-sign Nixon for LF. CF Crisp 3B Youkilis DH Ortiz SS Tejada RF Drew 1B Gonzalez LF Nixon C Varitek 2B Pedroia C Mirabelli? 1B/3B/OF Hinske INF Cora OF Murphy SP Clemens SP Schilling SP Beckett SP Matsuzaka SP Papelbon RHP Linebrink RHP Timlin RHP Tavarez RHP Wakefield RHP Delcarmen LHP Gabbard LHP Breslow

11-29-2006, 12:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
AutomatedTeller Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 544	Welcome new poster!! nice to see you again, Zen.

11-29-2006, 06:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
WhosyourPapi???? Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 36	[quote=Zen653;6161] Then spin Peavy, Pena and Hansen to Baltimore for Miguel Tejada and a low-level prospect. Re-sign Nixon for LF If Boston gets Peavy, they will keep him. I think Tejada is a good playr but he's kinda the same as Manny being Manny. Welcome Zen(i am soxrock34 on scout)

11-29-2006, 09:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
SportsFanForLife Rookie Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11	hey hey Zen - I haven't heard anything about this trade. Not to say it isn't true, but it would be all over the place. Would Manny waive his 10-5 for the Pads?

11-29-2006, 09:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dan Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 256	I've seen nothing of this trade. Any links to this? Oh yeah...If the Padres do this, it would be a awful trade for them.

11-30-2006, 10:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Zen653 Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,726	There was some mention on Rotoworld and WEEI that the Padres were willing to significantly increase their trade offer. Jake Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez were both mentioned as possibilities. This is probably an unrealistic expectation to land one or even both of them. Throwing in Lowell was my idea, as perhaps a way to entice the Padres a bit more. They expressed interest in him last year.

11-30-2006, 04:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
SportsFanForLife Rookie Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11	If Lowell went in we'd have to chip in some insane amount of money to cover part of him/Manny.

11-30-2006, 05:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
EnderSwarm Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 15	Welcome back to a Red Sox board, Zen.

12-01-2006, 09:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Papi4President New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 9	I have seen the possibility of Peavy/Linbrink/Gonzales listed in several places.... but I think it is simple specualtion at this point. "IF" we were to make this deal.... (assuming D_Mat) has already signed... What should we do next?... I think we should turn to the Rangers (who need pitching and OF'ers desperately) and offer them a trade for pitching.... I am not sure who we would want to offer them.... but Maybe Peavy and Murphy + a prospect for Texiera.... That would bring back some power to this team... I fear that Trading Manny and bringing Drew in as a "replacement" means we will be right back in the same doldrums this team was in for most of the 80's .... good enough to step on the field and get their butt beat....

12-03-2006, 04:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
WhosyourPapi???? Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 36	^^^^ He said that theres no way he will trade Peavy or Gonzalez. And that Peavy is his excellent ace and how Gonzalez is the future face of the franchise.

12-03-2006, 07:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lou New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	Manny is to valuable to the offense to much care what he wants. If management decides to keep him, Manny will produce his standard numbers. No team can or will give Boston fair value for Manny. At this point, I would get JD Drew and keep Manny unless Baltimore would work a deal that includesTejada.