Santana trade still alive

ghostbend · 12-21-2007, 01:04 AM

First post from Maine. Our local sportstalk show said that reports out of Minnesota say the Santana to Boston trade is stiil alive with Boston shipping Lester, Crisp, Lowrie and Masterson for the Twins ace. Jacoby Ellsbury is apparently off the table. This would be a steal for Boston in hopes to repeat as champions, and also gives the Twins a decent return. I see Lester having a career similiar to Greg Swindell or Jarrod Washburn. By that I mean he is capable of putting up an 18-20 win season, but I don't believe he will be a trademark lefty in the Santana mold. Crisp could regain his stroke as a Twin, but I don't see him ever blossoming as a hitter in Boston.I don't think the Sox are comfortable with Crisp's bat, and this would lead me to believe Ellsbury is staying put. If the Sox were going to trade Ellsbury, I think they would have made a push for Hunter or Rowand. Getting Santana is a no-brainer. I'd even include Bucholz in the deal if I had to, but would demand another player from the Twins, no less than a blue-chip prospect. Santana on the Sox and NOT on the Yankees would obviously be huge.Also, remember the trade that brought Pedro to Boston included Brian Rose, Carl Pavano, and later Tony Armas Jr, three top pitching prospects at the time. The Pats are rollin', the Celtics are on fire, but I'm still rockin' the Sox....WORD

Zen653 · 12-24-2007, 02:35 PM

I get the feeling that the Red Sox are happy to trade for Santana if they don't have to surrender anything significant beyond Lester, Crisp, Lowrie and Masterson. If the Twins continue to hold out for more, the Red Sox will decline and be content to go into 2008 with their 2007 roster virtually intact (except for trading Coco Crisp somewhere for a power relief pitcher or catching prospect.)

My only fear is that the Yankees will swoop in and nab Santana, which would again make them the team to beat in the East. Hank Steinbrenner's deadlines mean nothing and I can't imagine that New York would actually allow Santana to end up on the Red Sox. I could definitely see New York panicking and offering Robinson Cano, along with Ian Kennedy and Melky Cabrera, to seal the deal.

Frankly, if I were the Yankees, I would have offered that package weeks ago. Kennedy is a No. 3 starter, at best, Cano is a replaceable 2B (free agent Tadahito Iguchi has a higher career OBA), and Cabrera is an average CF.

12-21-2007, 01:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
ghostbend New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1	Santana trade still alive First post from Maine. Our local sportstalk show said that reports out of Minnesota say the Santana to Boston trade is stiil alive with Boston shipping Lester, Crisp, Lowrie and Masterson for the Twins ace. Jacoby Ellsbury is apparently off the table. This would be a steal for Boston in hopes to repeat as champions, and also gives the Twins a decent return. I see Lester having a career similiar to Greg Swindell or Jarrod Washburn. By that I mean he is capable of putting up an 18-20 win season, but I don't believe he will be a trademark lefty in the Santana mold. Crisp could regain his stroke as a Twin, but I don't see him ever blossoming as a hitter in Boston.I don't think the Sox are comfortable with Crisp's bat, and this would lead me to believe Ellsbury is staying put. If the Sox were going to trade Ellsbury, I think they would have made a push for Hunter or Rowand. Getting Santana is a no-brainer. I'd even include Bucholz in the deal if I had to, but would demand another player from the Twins, no less than a blue-chip prospect. Santana on the Sox and NOT on the Yankees would obviously be huge.Also, remember the trade that brought Pedro to Boston included Brian Rose, Carl Pavano, and later Tony Armas Jr, three top pitching prospects at the time. The Pats are rollin', the Celtics are on fire, but I'm still rockin' the Sox....WORD

12-24-2007, 02:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zen653 Hall of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,199	I get the feeling that the Red Sox are happy to trade for Santana if they don't have to surrender anything significant beyond Lester, Crisp, Lowrie and Masterson. If the Twins continue to hold out for more, the Red Sox will decline and be content to go into 2008 with their 2007 roster virtually intact (except for trading Coco Crisp somewhere for a power relief pitcher or catching prospect.) My only fear is that the Yankees will swoop in and nab Santana, which would again make them the team to beat in the East. Hank Steinbrenner's deadlines mean nothing and I can't imagine that New York would actually allow Santana to end up on the Red Sox. I could definitely see New York panicking and offering Robinson Cano, along with Ian Kennedy and Melky Cabrera, to seal the deal. Frankly, if I were the Yankees, I would have offered that package weeks ago. Kennedy is a No. 3 starter, at best, Cano is a replaceable 2B (free agent Tadahito Iguchi has a higher career OBA), and Cabrera is an average CF.