Manny/Indians Rumor

DoubleE · 11-24-2006, 02:11 AM

Rumor on WTAM in Cleveland is that the Indians are persuing a trade with the Redsox for Manny Ramierez

the Rumor is Manny for Fausto Carmona and Adam Miller

the Indians have $20 million + to spend this offseason

all4phillysportsfan · 11-24-2006, 02:34 AM

I suppose this deal would only get done if the Red Sox sign J.D.Drew? I would have to think Boston would be sending some cash as well to receive those 2 prospects.

Timmer · 11-24-2006, 03:18 PM

It hardly seems worth it in terms of the player talent involved.

redneckofsc · 11-26-2006, 04:34 PM

I could not imagine Shapiro dealing both Miller and Caromona.

That would put them in a bad situation considering Westbrook is a freak agent next year, and Byrd sucks.

That would leave them with Sowers, Lee, and CC at the major league level. The only real prospect in the minors is Lofrgen. Slocum, Sean Smith, and JD are decent candidates to succeed at the major league level.

If any trade went down, I would assume the Red Sox would be after not just young pitching, but a bat.

I would speculate:

Westbrook or Carmona
Gutierrez or Garko
Then some prospect, maybe Lara, R.Perez, Mujica or someone like that

Maybe throw in Paul Byrd to wash some of the cash.

77smbg9177 · 11-27-2006, 02:53 PM

This is true there have been many reports going around that Baltimore is in big trade tlaks with the red soxs for Manny and are close to sealing a deal with FA dave Roberts

redneckofsc · 11-27-2006, 06:56 PM

Manny has 10-5 rights. He gave the Red Sox a list of about 10 teams he would go to. Do you honestly think one of those is Baltimore?

77smbg9177 · 11-27-2006, 08:23 PM

No and yes because of two reasons but this is just what i herd.
No Because
1) Y would Boston trade manny to another team in the same division
2) i dont think manny would want to go there because he wants to be wiht a team in contention and if he went to baltimore then he would be by himself b/c Baltimore would have to give up ne good they have to try and get him

But then yes because
1)Baltimore has what it takes to get Manny think about a deal probaly would have to start off something like manny for tejada with
Boston picking up some of his contract for begginers
2) Boston wont care were manny wants to go play b/c once they trade him its no longer there problem its whoever gets him and u never no what is going to happen look at Soriano with the Nats he didn't want to go there or play LF now look at the contract he just got and the year he had

Codered · 11-28-2006, 04:35 PM

Appears the SF Giants are interested... There is a nice replacement for Bonds. Neither can play the OF worth a lick anymore either.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...e&type=fantasy

kfkorn · 11-29-2006, 02:43 AM

That seems like a lot for the Indians to give up for Many Ramirez. Ramirez is a great talent, but I just cannot see a team giving up two good, young pitchers for him.

The link above talks about a three-way deal (between the Red Sox, Giants, and another team), and I can definitely see that happening.

11-24-2006, 02:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
DoubleE Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 18	Manny/Indians Rumor Rumor on WTAM in Cleveland is that the Indians are persuing a trade with the Redsox for Manny Ramierez the Rumor is Manny for Fausto Carmona and Adam Miller the Indians have $20 million + to spend this offseason

11-28-2006, 04:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Codered Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 148	Appears the SF Giants are interested... There is a nice replacement for Bonds. Neither can play the OF worth a lick anymore either. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...e&type=fantasy __________________ Save us Jay Cutler....

11-24-2006, 02:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
all4phillysportsfan Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,630	I suppose this deal would only get done if the Red Sox sign J.D.Drew? I would have to think Boston would be sending some cash as well to receive those 2 prospects.

11-24-2006, 03:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Timmer Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,727	It hardly seems worth it in terms of the player talent involved.

11-26-2006, 04:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
redneckofsc New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4	I could not imagine Shapiro dealing both Miller and Caromona. That would put them in a bad situation considering Westbrook is a freak agent next year, and Byrd sucks. That would leave them with Sowers, Lee, and CC at the major league level. The only real prospect in the minors is Lofrgen. Slocum, Sean Smith, and JD are decent candidates to succeed at the major league level. If any trade went down, I would assume the Red Sox would be after not just young pitching, but a bat. I would speculate: Westbrook or Carmona Gutierrez or Garko Then some prospect, maybe Lara, R.Perez, Mujica or someone like that Maybe throw in Paul Byrd to wash some of the cash.

11-27-2006, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	This is true there have been many reports going around that Baltimore is in big trade tlaks with the red soxs for Manny and are close to sealing a deal with FA dave Roberts

11-27-2006, 06:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
redneckofsc New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4	Manny has 10-5 rights. He gave the Red Sox a list of about 10 teams he would go to. Do you honestly think one of those is Baltimore?

11-27-2006, 08:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
77smbg9177 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 670	No and yes because of two reasons but this is just what i herd. No Because 1) Y would Boston trade manny to another team in the same division 2) i dont think manny would want to go there because he wants to be wiht a team in contention and if he went to baltimore then he would be by himself b/c Baltimore would have to give up ne good they have to try and get him But then yes because 1)Baltimore has what it takes to get Manny think about a deal probaly would have to start off something like manny for tejada with Boston picking up some of his contract for begginers 2) Boston wont care were manny wants to go play b/c once they trade him its no longer there problem its whoever gets him and u never no what is going to happen look at Soriano with the Nats he didn't want to go there or play LF now look at the contract he just got and the year he had

11-29-2006, 02:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
kfkorn Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albrightsville, Pennsylvania Posts: 305	That seems like a lot for the Indians to give up for Many Ramirez. Ramirez is a great talent, but I just cannot see a team giving up two good, young pitchers for him. The link above talks about a three-way deal (between the Red Sox, Giants, and another team), and I can definitely see that happening.