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Old 12-13-2006, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Nationals send Vidro to Seattle

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...121301763.html


Another bad move by Seattle. If Seattle doesn't really improve next season
Bill Bavasi will be out of a job.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This isn't a bad move for Seattle.


I like it myself.
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Your an Angels fan, how could you not like it?

I would be absolutely ecstatic if I was an A's,Angels, or Rangers fan. Because not only did they get Chris Snelling out of the division, they got him out of the entire league!
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Chris Snelling will probably be the every day center fielder for the Nationals.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Looks like a good deal for the Nats. Snelling should start right away and they free up quite a bit of money.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Snelling hasn't played CF for more than a handful of games in the last five years. I think it was in Everett when he was last a starter there.

Now I know that Will Carrol is an advocate of moving someone who has the injury bug to CF in order to keep them healthy, but I doubt any team is listening to him.

Snellling will start in the outfield, but it will be at a corner position.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This isn't a bad move for Seattle.


I like it myself.
I agree with you on this. I've always liked Vidro. If he can stay healthy Seattle will have a good deal.
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Old 12-14-2006, 05:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What team gets better by getting older and getting worse offense in the deal? Snelling could have put up a 280/330/400 line easily, and expecting more than that from Vidro is a foolish idea.
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That would be considered a very bad season for Snelling.

Nowadays, that's considered an average to good season for Vidro.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Snelling has proven nothing so far, so I don't see how you can have such high expectations of him. Vidro has proven two things; one that he is a great player when healthy, and the other is that he has had a hard time staying healthy. The gamble is that he will be able to stay healthy next year. If he does, Seattle comes out way ahead. If he doesn't they loose in this trade.

Snelling has just as big of a problem with injuries, so that factor is a wash as far as I can see. I guess it all boils down to if you want an outfielder or an infielder.
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Position doesn't matter for DHs, at least not when Vidro has said he isn't healthy enough to play the field more than once a week.

Pecota from Baseball Prospectus for both players

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                   EqBA EqOBP EqSLG EqA Age ‘07 Salary
Jose Vidro     .283   .352   .406   .266 32 $7.5M
Chris Snelling .265   .356   .438   .283 25 $1.0M*
That's more money for an older worse player
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I really really despise that stupid "proven" argument crap.

What Vidro has done in the past completely and utterly irrelevant. He's not that same player anymore and everybody but apparently Bill Bavasi knows that.

Vidro has proven two things. 1. That he is already a worse offensive player than Chris Snelling, and that's if Snelling never improves at all and 2.He's so immobile and gimpy that he can't play the field anymore, to where Snelling can still play the corners.

Neither has proven they can stay healthy, I will give you that. But out of two players who are of similar dispositions, who would you choose the worse,older, more expensive one?
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I really really despise that stupid "proven" argument crap.

What Vidro has done in the past completely and utterly irrelevant. He's not that same player anymore and everybody but apparently Bill Bavasi knows that.

Vidro has proven two things. 1. That he is already a worse offensive player than Chris Snelling, and that's if Snelling never improves at all and 2.He's so immobile and gimpy that he can't play the field anymore, to where Snelling can still play the corners.

Neither has proven they can stay healthy, I will give you that. But out of two players who are of similar dispositions, who would you choose the worse,older, more expensive one?
My opinion, I would stick with what I already had, unless I had reason to believe Vidro could stay healthy and I needed an infielder. I haven't read anything that suggests Vidro can't get healthy and I checked that link and it has nothing about Vidro in it.
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Chris Snelling will probably be the every day center fielder for the Nationals.
They like Nook Logan's defense a lot.
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Snelling hasn't played CF for more than a handful of games in the last five years. I think it was in Everett when he was last a starter there.

Now I know that Will Carrol is an advocate of moving someone who has the injury bug to CF in order to keep them healthy, but I doubt any team is listening to him.

Snellling will start in the outfield, but it will be at a corner position.
Well, they have Austin Kearns in RF adn they like the kid Kory Casto in LF, so I don't know which corner.
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