Writer of ESPN article feels our pain

renny · February 16th, 2007, 03:35 PM

ESPN.com - MLB - Helyar: Fans find no fun in sale of Braves

"Does anybody really think Liberty CEO John Malone will invest in this team? The man long known as the "king of cable" lives for dazzlingly complex transactions such as the "cash-rich split off" that just brought him the Braves. His fascination with numbers quite likely doesn't extend to earned run averages. As lawyer-fan Fowler puts it, "He's a fan of business, not baseball."

On the other hand, does anyone really think the lords of baseball will reject Malone as an owner? By setting the Braves' sale price at $450 million, Liberty Media serves their purposes splendidly. That robust figure helps buoy the value of every other MLB franchise.

Their team might as well be renamed the Atlanta Loopholes."

Nocahoma · February 16th, 2007, 04:08 PM

Bastages. All of 'em.

texasleaguer · February 16th, 2007, 06:53 PM

Screw Bud Selig, and the rest of the MLB owners. *******s.

D55 · February 17th, 2007, 04:39 AM

He's right, we are not stupid. Unlike those that call us less of a fan because (fill in the blank), or the media fools that attempt to make themselves into a internet mesage board mogul. They do nothing but enhance their real personna of the village idiot.
It would indeed be nice to have Ted or maybe Arthur run this business. On second thought, maybe not Arthur, as he allows the hot shot QB run the team.

Snowman · February 17th, 2007, 04:40 AM

If Honest Bud had any damned integrity at all, he'd veto this one for the good of the game. Of course, we all know what the chances of that happening are.

renny · February 17th, 2007, 08:10 AM

True all - why would MLB owners really care if this is good for the Braves organization or not? The bottom line is, "what will it do for me"?

So much for the theory out there that Liberty will attempt to upgrade the value of the team in the next 2-3 years, so it is more marketable.

Obviously, the cost of team franchises are as equally inflated as
the cost of player contracts. It would be nice to appoint one who is familiar with the business of ML baseball to mediate/advise between the business aspect and what matters on the field.

That said, I don't think the finalization of this deal will have that much of an impact on the attitude of the guys on the field.

jecqua · February 19th, 2007, 12:03 PM

when has Selig ever been considered honest?

justlooking · February 19th, 2007, 01:16 PM

Why is it that this feels like a bunch of business men playing real world Monopoly?

"I tell you what. I'll trade you Pennsylvania Avenue, My Two Railroads, and the Atlanta Braves for $1000, Marvin Gardens, and a get out of jail free card."

Hopefully they don't land on Luxury Tax any time soon.

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Anyways, Bud Selig doesn't have the sack to overturn this deal. He's a spineless creature that caters to George Steinbrenner. The only way this one gets overturned is if the SEC steps in to stop it. And, I'm not talking about the home of Dawgs, Commies, and the Cocks.

As for what happens in the future? Status quo... status quo... You want to keep that "stock option" looking slightly pretty when you trade it in for Park Place. (Damn Monopoly analogies)

$80 million payroll of the aging stars of the past and some young'ins. Sorry Andruw, Mr. Steinbrenner is calling on line 1.

TonyBagO'Donuts · February 24th, 2007, 05:48 AM

According to Ben Maller, MLB is looking into the fact that Liberty Media owns a sports betting website. I hope they veto this asset swap and I hope they do it fast.

Nocahoma · February 27th, 2007, 10:49 AM

Now THAT is interesting. Allowing such a group to have MLB ownership would give Pete Rose some precedent to cite (provided he can spell "precedent"). Given Selig's natural (and well-deserved) hatred for Rose, perhaps he will use this to squash the deal.

Hmmm.....

February 16th, 2007, 03:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	Writer of ESPN article feels our pain ESPN.com - MLB - Helyar: Fans find no fun in sale of Braves "Does anybody really think Liberty CEO John Malone will invest in this team? The man long known as the "king of cable" lives for dazzlingly complex transactions such as the "cash-rich split off" that just brought him the Braves. His fascination with numbers quite likely doesn't extend to earned run averages. As lawyer-fan Fowler puts it, "He's a fan of business, not baseball." On the other hand, does anyone really think the lords of baseball will reject Malone as an owner? By setting the Braves' sale price at $450 million, Liberty Media serves their purposes splendidly. That robust figure helps buoy the value of every other MLB franchise. Their team might as well be renamed the Atlanta Loopholes." Last edited by renny; February 16th, 2007 at 03:38 PM.

February 17th, 2007, 04:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	If Honest Bud had any damned integrity at all, he'd veto this one for the good of the game. Of course, we all know what the chances of that happening are. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college. Last edited by Nocahoma; February 17th, 2007 at 12:03 PM. Reason: Profanity (the bad kind)

February 16th, 2007, 04:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Bastages. All of 'em.

February 16th, 2007, 06:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
texasleaguer Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 60	Screw Bud Selig, and the rest of the MLB owners. *******s.

February 17th, 2007, 04:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
D55 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 374	He's right, we are not stupid. Unlike those that call us less of a fan because (fill in the blank), or the media fools that attempt to make themselves into a internet mesage board mogul. They do nothing but enhance their real personna of the village idiot. It would indeed be nice to have Ted or maybe Arthur run this business. On second thought, maybe not Arthur, as he allows the hot shot QB run the team.

February 17th, 2007, 08:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	True all - why would MLB owners really care if this is good for the Braves organization or not? The bottom line is, "what will it do for me"? So much for the theory out there that Liberty will attempt to upgrade the value of the team in the next 2-3 years, so it is more marketable. Obviously, the cost of team franchises are as equally inflated as the cost of player contracts. It would be nice to appoint one who is familiar with the business of ML baseball to mediate/advise between the business aspect and what matters on the field. That said, I don't think the finalization of this deal will have that much of an impact on the attitude of the guys on the field.

February 19th, 2007, 12:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
jecqua Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 654	when has Selig ever been considered honest?

February 19th, 2007, 01:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
justlooking Rookie Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 3	Why is it that this feels like a bunch of business men playing real world Monopoly? "I tell you what. I'll trade you Pennsylvania Avenue, My Two Railroads, and the Atlanta Braves for $1000, Marvin Gardens, and a get out of jail free card." Hopefully they don't land on Luxury Tax any time soon. ======= Anyways, Bud Selig doesn't have the sack to overturn this deal. He's a spineless creature that caters to George Steinbrenner. The only way this one gets overturned is if the SEC steps in to stop it. And, I'm not talking about the home of Dawgs, Commies, and the Cocks. As for what happens in the future? Status quo... status quo... You want to keep that "stock option" looking slightly pretty when you trade it in for Park Place. (Damn Monopoly analogies) $80 million payroll of the aging stars of the past and some young'ins. Sorry Andruw, Mr. Steinbrenner is calling on line 1.

February 24th, 2007, 05:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
TonyBagO'Donuts Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 65	According to Ben Maller, MLB is looking into the fact that Liberty Media owns a sports betting website. I hope they veto this asset swap and I hope they do it fast.

February 27th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nocahoma Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,238	Now THAT is interesting. Allowing such a group to have MLB ownership would give Pete Rose some precedent to cite (provided he can spell "precedent"). Given Selig's natural (and well-deserved) hatred for Rose, perhaps he will use this to squash the deal. Hmmm.....