Marcus Giles non-tendered - Page 2

RTT · December 13th, 2006, 01:23 AM

Things aren't looking too good for Atlanta next year...

Snowman · December 13th, 2006, 02:25 AM

I hope Hubbard is ready to put in a lot of time this spring with KJ and Aybar on defense around the keystone sack, because the notion of Prado out there every day is a nightmare.

Yogi44 · December 13th, 2006, 04:38 AM

I understand the money aspect of it, but JS tipped his hand WAY to early that they were even considering a non-tender. There went any leverage you had in a trade. There was so many rumors and "talk" that there was another reason, but unless it was really bad and was known league wide, I can't see how they could not get a couple of minor leaguers for him.

rrandom · December 13th, 2006, 12:43 PM

What's frustrating is that, even if every GM in the game knew that we were going to non-tender him, we could have still gotten something for him. Some team would have been willing to at least give us a minor league roster filler so that they wouldn't have to bid for him on the open market.

I wonder if JS was trying to make a pouty statement about the small budget. If so, it was done at the expense of the team itself and is unforgiveable. I have been a supporter to the point of apologist for him in the past, but I am not so anymore. Being a manager of a low budget team that is forced to move some of its better players is a lousy position to be in. But that is his job and if he isn't able and willing to do a decent job of it then he needs to go.

I am absolutely furious about this.

D55 · December 13th, 2006, 05:14 PM

What is really sad is that his contract is up at the end of 2007 and he probably will be exended.

renny · December 13th, 2006, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yogi44

There was so many rumors and "talk" that there was another reason, but unless it was really bad and was known league wide, I can't see how they could not get a couple of minor leaguers for him.

Here's what puzzles me - it's being implied that most of the league knew about "the problem", so the non-tendering issue aside, what is it about "the problem" that these teams feel they can deal with it now? If JS had never let it be known that he would non tender Giles, does it not stand to reason that someone might bite? I believe too much was made of the disruption that "the problem" caused the Braves cubhouse, and that turned around and bit them.

Now, hypothetically, if "the problem" is something like a cocaine addiction or alcoholism, causing his personality to have changed, then whatever team signs him will be taking a risk. But, for as classy an organization as the Braves tout themselves to be, letting "the problem" become public, seems sort of classless.

bravefan29 · December 13th, 2006, 07:40 PM

The Nats were able to dump Jose Vidro - with the M's covering most of his salary - yet we couldn't get anything for Marcus?

MikeT · December 18th, 2006, 09:15 PM

According to rotoworld and other sources Giles is set to sign a one year deal for 3 to 4 million....

Way to go JS

BravesRule22 · December 18th, 2006, 09:46 PM

ERRRRRRR

This is going to haunt us, especially if Prado gets the nod @ 2B

jpx7 · December 19th, 2006, 10:51 AM

If Prado is the starting 2B, it is going to do more than haunt us; however, I'll wait until Schuerholz finishes his offseason "moves" before saying that it would cripple us.

texasleaguer · December 20th, 2006, 07:00 PM

Hopefully, Kelly Johnson is the 2b. At least he can hit his way out of a paper bag.

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December 18th, 2006, 09:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
MikeT Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,591	According to rotoworld and other sources Giles is set to sign a one year deal for 3 to 4 million.... Way to go JS __________________ You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think. Milton Berle

December 13th, 2006, 04:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
Yogi44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: McGee's Crossroads, NC Posts: 254	I understand the money aspect of it, but JS tipped his hand WAY to early that they were even considering a non-tender. There went any leverage you had in a trade. There was so many rumors and "talk" that there was another reason, but unless it was really bad and was known league wide, I can't see how they could not get a couple of minor leaguers for him.

December 13th, 2006, 12:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
rrandom Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 65	What's frustrating is that, even if every GM in the game knew that we were going to non-tender him, we could have still gotten something for him. Some team would have been willing to at least give us a minor league roster filler so that they wouldn't have to bid for him on the open market. I wonder if JS was trying to make a pouty statement about the small budget. If so, it was done at the expense of the team itself and is unforgiveable. I have been a supporter to the point of apologist for him in the past, but I am not so anymore. Being a manager of a low budget team that is forced to move some of its better players is a lousy position to be in. But that is his job and if he isn't able and willing to do a decent job of it then he needs to go. I am absolutely furious about this.

December 13th, 2006, 05:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
D55 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 374	What is really sad is that his contract is up at the end of 2007 and he probably will be exended.

December 13th, 2006, 07:40 PM	#22 (permalink)
bravefan29 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 33	The Nats were able to dump Jose Vidro - with the M's covering most of his salary - yet we couldn't get anything for Marcus?

December 18th, 2006, 09:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
BravesRule22 Basketball Community Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,089	ERRRRRRR This is going to haunt us, especially if Prado gets the nod @ 2B

December 19th, 2006, 10:51 AM	#25 (permalink)
jpx7 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 568	If Prado is the starting 2B, it is going to do more than haunt us; however, I'll wait until Schuerholz finishes his offseason "moves" before saying that it would cripple us.

December 20th, 2006, 07:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
texasleaguer Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 60	Hopefully, Kelly Johnson is the 2b. At least he can hit his way out of a paper bag.