Hack to Pearl

pfiggy · July 4th, 2008, 09:32 AM

That is all:

Braves demote Francoeur to Class AA Mississippi | ajc.com

diceman · July 4th, 2008, 09:48 AM

Yeah, he's disappointed, but he should consider himself lucky he wasn't demoted a month ago and for a longer period of time. He mentions how he's been in the league for three years and he's surprised by the demotion. Well, if he's been around that long, he should be getting better, not worse. How he handles himself during this stint will tell a lot about him and may go a long way to deciding what the Braves do with him, either before the trade deadline or after the season. I hope he gets straightened out.

GenericBravesFan · July 4th, 2008, 10:15 AM

So much for being the next Dale Murphy...

jpx7 · July 4th, 2008, 10:28 AM

Interesting the treatment he gets from many fans: to wit, on the "other" boards, many posters submitted that Francoeur was such a great dude, he probably advocated his own demotion.

Clearly, empirical evidence suggests otherwise – if we are to believe Francoeur's quoted words in print – but I wonder if any other young player (hitting .230 in their third full season) would receive such treatment upon reassignment to the minor leagues. It was fairly obvious to everyone that some move like this had to be made, and Francoeur may have been a bit more wise to the move than he lets on; however, it seems a bit excessive to paint Francoeur as champion of his own relegation to AA.

renny · July 4th, 2008, 10:30 AM

..he's been in the league for three years and he's surprised by the demotion. Well, if he's been around that long, he should be getting better...

If this is the analogy, then why did Andruw stay (up) so long? He certainly had more than ample time time to figure it out. Was his D more valuable than frenchie's? I feel bad for him, but also feel that if he had not held out for arbirtration - the Braves might have found a little more more patience.
had more than plenty time certainly had more than 3 years in the gbigs. certainly had more than 3 years in the bigs and coldn't figure it

GenericBravesFan · July 4th, 2008, 11:46 AM

Wow yeah, I totally forgot about Frenchy's rejections of the Braves' contract offers. Oops.

diceman · July 4th, 2008, 12:09 PM

jpx7, I know what you mean. Another board I'm on has posters that are completely enamored with French and can't understand why the Braves are being so impatient with him. Some folks have to realize that this is a business and if anything, the Braves waited longer than they should have, considering he was never benched.

Renny and GBF, looks like we may have caught a break with French spurning the last contract offer.

NadoBrave · July 4th, 2008, 03:30 PM

Not really surprised by any of this. He's been his own worst enemy, bulking up & rejecting contract offers in hopes of getting the BIG $$ & now its bit him in the butt. Hopefully he'll get his stuff together. Sad it had to come to this.

GenericBravesFan · July 4th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

"This has really put a damper on my relationship with the Atlanta Braves," Francoeur told the AJC.

Classy!

diceman · July 4th, 2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenericBravesFan

Classy!

Did he think he was going to get a huge raise when they called him into the office? Like Nado said, he has been his own worst enemy. If he's going to get down in the mouth and start talking like this, he'll be gone by the end of July. The way he's been hitting, though, we probably won't get much for him.

renny · July 4th, 2008, 04:17 PM

He also said this:

His attitude is to turn this into a positive," his agent Molly Fletcher said.

Gotta be fair.

And, it's only until after the AS break - criminy - that's nuttin'.

MikeT · July 4th, 2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diceman

did He Think He Was Going To Get A Huge Raise When They Called Him Into The Office? Like Nado Said, He Has Been His Own Worst Enemy. If He's Going To Get Down In The Mouth And Start Talking Like This, He'll Be Gone By The End Of July. The Way He's Been Hitting, Though, We Probably Won't Get Much For Him.

A Couple Of Maple Bats And A Bag Of Balls

renny · July 4th, 2008, 05:59 PM

traitors

turncoats

diceman · July 4th, 2008, 07:53 PM

Hey! Thay's MISTER traitor and turncoat to you.

You'll also notice that his agent was the one who said he wants to turn this into a positive. Sounds like she's just runnin' interference for him.

diceman · July 4th, 2008, 07:56 PM

AND----we got 5 rbis out of the bottom four of the lineup tonight against the Astros without French mucking things up. First place here we come! hehe

July 4th, 2008, 09:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
pfiggy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 3,716	Hack to Pearl That is all: Braves demote Francoeur to Class AA Mississippi \| ajc.com

July 4th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
diceman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Orange, Florida Posts: 1,329	Yeah, he's disappointed, but he should consider himself lucky he wasn't demoted a month ago and for a longer period of time. He mentions how he's been in the league for three years and he's surprised by the demotion. Well, if he's been around that long, he should be getting better, not worse. How he handles himself during this stint will tell a lot about him and may go a long way to deciding what the Braves do with him, either before the trade deadline or after the season. I hope he gets straightened out. __________________ From "Bull Durham": Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry! Larry: Lollygaggers! Skip: Lollygaggers.

July 4th, 2008, 10:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	..he's been in the league for three years and he's surprised by the demotion. Well, if he's been around that long, he should be getting better... If this is the analogy, then why did Andruw stay (up) so long? He certainly had more than ample time time to figure it out. Was his D more valuable than frenchie's? I feel bad for him, but also feel that if he had not held out for arbirtration - the Braves might have found a little more more patience. had more than plenty time certainly had more than 3 years in the gbigs. certainly had more than 3 years in the bigs and coldn't figure it __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

July 4th, 2008, 12:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
diceman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Orange, Florida Posts: 1,329	jpx7, I know what you mean. Another board I'm on has posters that are completely enamored with French and can't understand why the Braves are being so impatient with him. Some folks have to realize that this is a business and if anything, the Braves waited longer than they should have, considering he was never benched. Renny and GBF, looks like we may have caught a break with French spurning the last contract offer. __________________ From "Bull Durham": Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry! Larry: Lollygaggers! Skip: Lollygaggers.

July 4th, 2008, 03:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
NadoBrave Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fantasy Island Posts: 807	Not really surprised by any of this. He's been his own worst enemy, bulking up & rejecting contract offers in hopes of getting the BIG $$ & now its bit him in the butt. Hopefully he'll get his stuff together. Sad it had to come to this. __________________ *It's a pity ignorance isn't painful!*

July 4th, 2008, 10:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
GenericBravesFan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 949	So much for being the next Dale Murphy...

July 4th, 2008, 10:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
jpx7 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 568	Interesting the treatment he gets from many fans: to wit, on the "other" boards, many posters submitted that Francoeur was such a great dude, he probably advocated his own demotion. Clearly, empirical evidence suggests otherwise – if we are to believe Francoeur's quoted words in print – but I wonder if any other young player (hitting .230 in their third full season) would receive such treatment upon reassignment to the minor leagues. It was fairly obvious to everyone that some move like this had to be made, and Francoeur may have been a bit more wise to the move than he lets on; however, it seems a bit excessive to paint Francoeur as champion of his own relegation to AA.

July 4th, 2008, 11:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
GenericBravesFan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 949	Wow yeah, I totally forgot about Frenchy's rejections of the Braves' contract offers. Oops.

July 4th, 2008, 04:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	Well..... He also said this: His attitude is to turn this into a positive," his agent Molly Fletcher said. Gotta be fair. And, it's only until after the AS break - criminy - that's nuttin'. __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

July 4th, 2008, 05:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	traitors turncoats __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

July 4th, 2008, 07:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
diceman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Orange, Florida Posts: 1,329	Hey! Thay's MISTER traitor and turncoat to you. You'll also notice that his agent was the one who said he wants to turn this into a positive. Sounds like she's just runnin' interference for him. __________________ From "Bull Durham": Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry! Larry: Lollygaggers! Skip: Lollygaggers.

July 4th, 2008, 07:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
diceman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Orange, Florida Posts: 1,329	AND----we got 5 rbis out of the bottom four of the lineup tonight against the Astros without French mucking things up. First place here we come! hehe __________________ From "Bull Durham": Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry! Larry: Lollygaggers! Skip: Lollygaggers.