Is this Smoltzie's last stand?

GenericBravesFan · June 3rd, 2008, 02:51 PM

I was just thinking about his career last night as I watching the highlights of the game. Given the consistent pain he's had in his shoulder this year, all the elbow operations, and his age...I just gotta figure this is the last season I'm gonna be seeing #29 on the mound for the Braves. What do you ya'll think?

Snowman · June 3rd, 2008, 03:34 PM

I'll go a step further... I'm wondering if this is the last stand for the Big Three in its entirety. Maddux has pretty much been saying he's done after this season since last year, though all off the record. If this year doesn't convince Glavine he's done I don't know what will. And Smoltzie's arm is certainly telling him it's time.

If any of them hang around another year, though, Smoltz is the most likely, I think. He's the one who is performing the best (despite last night), and he is incredibly stubborn.

GenericBravesFan · June 3rd, 2008, 03:52 PM

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If this year doesn't convince Glavine he's done I don't know what will

At least we get to be along for the ride!

diceman · June 3rd, 2008, 04:51 PM

Not only do I also think this is the last year for the Three Amigos, I would welcome it. All three of them are still pitching well. They should all go out before embarrassment takes over.

renny · June 3rd, 2008, 06:15 PM

In a recent in question segment by the media, Smoltz stated that he hadn't completely ruled out surgery in the OS - but, I think that's just his way of keeping them at a distance and preventing them from writing his obituary prematurely .

pfiggy · June 3rd, 2008, 06:31 PM

What kinda surgery, brain, wait, that would be Bob? Has anyone ever said what Smoltz' problem was, or are the just goin' explorin'?

renny · June 3rd, 2008, 06:35 PM

It's gotta be perpetual tendonitis/tendinitis - prolly in his shoulder.

shhh...it's a secret

Yogi44 · June 3rd, 2008, 06:53 PM

I've mentioned it when Smoltz first went to the DL. I honestly think that all 3 will leave this year and all three will go into the HOF 5 years from now.

NadoBrave · June 3rd, 2008, 09:07 PM

Yeah, Doggie is still being rumored as on the trading block here in SD, but with all the casualties to their starters (Peavy, Young, Estes) they really can't afford to let him go. Would love to see all three go this year & in Brvaos unis but looking less likely for Doggie now. Smoltz is likely done, the arm angle to mitigate the pain all over again.

renny · June 4th, 2008, 08:17 AM

The Official Site of The Atlanta Braves: News: Smoltz may be facing shoulder surgery

ATLANTA -- John Smoltz has said that he'll be content if he never throws another pitch. Now, just two days after he attempted to alleviate stress on his shoulder with a move to the bullpen, the Braves veteran pitcher finds this to be a more defined possibility.

The Braves have scheduled an 11:30 a.m. ET news conference at Turner Field and at that time, they are expected to discuss Smoltz's future. There has been talk that he will need to undergo season-ending surgery on his right shoulder.
The Braves said that executive vice president Frank Wren, manager Bobby Cox and Smoltz will be in attendance at the news conference.

more serious than we thought, I guess..

diceman · June 4th, 2008, 08:46 AM

I had no idea John's injury was that bad. I guess that means when Chipper goes, all links to the old 90's teams will be gone. What an era nearing an end between now and a couple more years. I'm pretty happy, though. Between my Packers losing Brett Favre and now the Braves about to lose Smokes and probably Glavine, I've gotten to see some pretty decent players over the last 20+ years.

renny · June 4th, 2008, 08:50 AM

Smoltz to have season-ending shoulder surgery | ajc.com

conrfirmed

NadoBrave · June 4th, 2008, 09:31 AM

Frack, well there goes that hope. At his age, the likelihood of a successful return are slim & nil & I gotta feelin ole Slim's a saddlin up as I type.

pfiggy · June 4th, 2008, 11:27 AM

This pretty well sucks.....

GenericBravesFan · June 4th, 2008, 01:12 PM

June 3rd, 2008, 02:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
GenericBravesFan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 949	Is this Smoltzie's last stand? I was just thinking about his career last night as I watching the highlights of the game. Given the consistent pain he's had in his shoulder this year, all the elbow operations, and his age...I just gotta figure this is the last season I'm gonna be seeing #29 on the mound for the Braves. What do you ya'll think?

June 3rd, 2008, 03:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Snowman Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Topsail Beach, NC Posts: 1,335	I'll go a step further... I'm wondering if this is the last stand for the Big Three in its entirety. Maddux has pretty much been saying he's done after this season since last year, though all off the record. If this year doesn't convince Glavine he's done I don't know what will. And Smoltzie's arm is certainly telling him it's time. If any of them hang around another year, though, Smoltz is the most likely, I think. He's the one who is performing the best (despite last night), and he is incredibly stubborn. __________________ That corpse you planted last year in your garden, Has it begun to sprout? Will it bloom this year? Or has the sudden frost disturbed its bed? If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

June 3rd, 2008, 04:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
diceman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Orange, Florida Posts: 1,329	Not only do I also think this is the last year for the Three Amigos, I would welcome it. All three of them are still pitching well. They should all go out before embarrassment takes over. __________________ From "Bull Durham": Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry! Larry: Lollygaggers! Skip: Lollygaggers.

June 3rd, 2008, 06:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	In a recent in question segment by the media, Smoltz stated that he hadn't completely ruled out surgery in the OS - but, I think that's just his way of keeping them at a distance and preventing them from writing his obituary prematurely . __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

June 3rd, 2008, 06:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	It's gotta be perpetual tendonitis/tendinitis - prolly in his shoulder. shhh...it's a secret __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

June 3rd, 2008, 06:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
pfiggy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 3,716	What kinda surgery, brain, wait, that would be Bob? Has anyone ever said what Smoltz' problem was, or are the just goin' explorin'?

June 3rd, 2008, 06:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Yogi44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: McGee's Crossroads, NC Posts: 254	I've mentioned it when Smoltz first went to the DL. I honestly think that all 3 will leave this year and all three will go into the HOF 5 years from now.

June 3rd, 2008, 09:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
NadoBrave Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fantasy Island Posts: 807	Yeah, Doggie is still being rumored as on the trading block here in SD, but with all the casualties to their starters (Peavy, Young, Estes) they really can't afford to let him go. Would love to see all three go this year & in Brvaos unis but looking less likely for Doggie now. Smoltz is likely done, the arm angle to mitigate the pain all over again. __________________ *It's a pity ignorance isn't painful!*

June 4th, 2008, 08:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	The Official Site of The Atlanta Braves: News: Smoltz may be facing shoulder surgery ATLANTA -- John Smoltz has said that he'll be content if he never throws another pitch. Now, just two days after he attempted to alleviate stress on his shoulder with a move to the bullpen, the Braves veteran pitcher finds this to be a more defined possibility. The Braves have scheduled an 11:30 a.m. ET news conference at Turner Field and at that time, they are expected to discuss Smoltz's future. There has been talk that he will need to undergo season-ending surgery on his right shoulder. The Braves said that executive vice president Frank Wren, manager Bobby Cox and Smoltz will be in attendance at the news conference. more serious than we thought, I guess.. __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

June 4th, 2008, 08:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
diceman Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Port Orange, Florida Posts: 1,329	I had no idea John's injury was that bad. I guess that means when Chipper goes, all links to the old 90's teams will be gone. What an era nearing an end between now and a couple more years. I'm pretty happy, though. Between my Packers losing Brett Favre and now the Braves about to lose Smokes and probably Glavine, I've gotten to see some pretty decent players over the last 20+ years. __________________ From "Bull Durham": Skip: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you? Larry! Larry: Lollygaggers! Skip: Lollygaggers.

June 4th, 2008, 08:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
renny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: along side the veteran presents `) Posts: 2,038	Smoltz to have season-ending shoulder surgery \| ajc.com conrfirmed __________________ "We'll be back next year. We always are, aren't we?" -P Greg Maddux

June 4th, 2008, 09:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
NadoBrave Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fantasy Island Posts: 807	Frack, well there goes that hope. At his age, the likelihood of a successful return are slim & nil & I gotta feelin ole Slim's a saddlin up as I type. __________________ *It's a pity ignorance isn't painful!*

June 4th, 2008, 11:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
pfiggy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 3,716	This pretty well sucks.....

June 4th, 2008, 01:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
GenericBravesFan Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 949