Kiss of death?

[DR3AMR]

Both Rosenthal and Gammons picked us to win the WS.

[diceman]

In our paper here in Daytona, about ten different writers picked their division, playoff and WS winners. Only one writer had the Braves winning the division and one other had them as a wild card. Most have the Muts winning the division.

[NadoBrave]

Count Stark in amongst da believers as well This is a little scary. I like the team overall, but would've preferred a little more anonimity.

[bedir than average]

predictions don't matter
anonimity doesn't matter

wins matter, wins in the playoffs matter more.

[NadoBrave]

Yeah... BUT after all the friggin BS hoopla this Spring, to have even a few of them from the NE & NY Sports Media Bubbles leaning in this direction is unusual to say the least. Unless of course they're just trying to not jinx thy're favorites! Attittude (swagger) has a lot to do with those wins & in that department, Stark is right with this team. And never underestimate anonimity in the media, it was a hallmark in the 14 year run. Every year was supposed to be our last except for that 95-97 stretch.

The only real KISS OF DEATH is the SI cover & they've dodged that so far.

[GenericBravesFan]

I'm not sure about Stark including Hampton in the rotation He still is a big '?' to me...

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by DR3AMR

Kiss of death?

[NadoBrave]

Kids might not get the connection Snowy, should've used Brad Pitt.

[jpx7]

Yea seriously, Snow.

I might not have understood the Pitt reference either (depending upon the film), but I have no idea whence that shot comes.

[Nat]

Richard Widmark, one of the original on-screen gangsters, along with Jimmy Cagney. I believe that was the film where he famously pushed his wheelchair-ridden mother down a flight of stairs.
And hey, I was born in the 1970's

As for the team, if Huddy stays healthy, the Braves surely have as good a shot at the pennant as anyone else.
Getting past those Boston jerks, on the other hand...

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Nat

Richard Widmark, one of the original on-screen gangsters, along with Jimmy Cagney. I believe that was the film where he famously pushed his wheelchair-ridden mother down a flight of stairs.

Close enough for gov't work. It was actually someone else's wheelchair-bound mother he pushed down the stairs, giggling all the while. It is indeed Widmark as the bat**** crazy gangster Tommy Udo in nineteen-fourty-something's Kiss of Death.



And Widmark just died last week, hence the .

And I was born in '67. I'm just an old movie wonk, I guess.

But I don't get the Pitt reference. There was a godawful remake some years back of the movie, with Nicky Coppola-Cage as a much more sympathetic Udo and the redheaded dude from NYPD Blue and one of those CSI shows in the Victor Mature role (which had been changed from a rat on the run to a fibbie undercover).

[NadoBrave]

Snow - Pitt was in "Meet Joe Black" a remake of the classic "Death Takes a Holiday" where he plays the Grimm Reaper & falls in love with Anthony Hopkins daughter in the move; hence "the KoD" .

Big Widmark fan as well. Got the reference to the Movie being a circa 50s guy, but many of the younguns here wouldn't remember his last film Twilights Last Gleaming much less his first!

[Snowman]

Ah, I remember that movie, sort of (the Pitt-Hopkins picture, that is). Or more to the point, I remember giving up on it about halfway through.

Yeah, I liked Widmark in a lot of stuff (Pickup on South Street and the original Night and the City quickly come to mind), but that first one in particular was pretty damned hard to forget (but didn't Coma come along later than Twilight's?). He didn't quite outdo the Robert Mitchum performances in the original versions of Night of the Hunter and Cape Fear, but he came close.

[jpx7]

"And I was born in '67. I'm just an old movie wonk, I guess."

Certainly more so than me; though I wouldn't call myself ignorant of pre-Kubrick cinema (the real recent luminary from my perspective), I've tended to focus on more specific content (mostly because of cinema class curricula).

I'm talking pictures like Birth of a Nation/Intolerance, stuff in the Welles oeuvre (not just Kane; for instance, his Macbeth is quite good), Shakespearean filmic-transportations (Olivier; Mankiewicz's Julius Caesar), and then cinematic technicians such as Godard, Eisenstein, Renoir (Vivre sa vie and Potemkin are superlative films).

[Nat]

Fun thread, makes me wish the wife were more apt to sit through a B&W movie with me.
Since we're on a film-noir kick, anyone ever take in "Sweet Smell of Success"?
The greatest hard-boiled dialogue, heck ANY kind of dialogue, in film history. Makes Raymond Chandler sound like John Grishom.